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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    MrMister wrote: »
    Heidegger’s readings of Hölderlin are central to his later thought, but the difficulties of both the poetry and the thought make it a great challenge to translate these texts... Heidegger’s goal is to think about Hölderlin’s poetry without reducing it to prose or pseudophilosophy... a crucial task if great poetry is not just a flimsy aesthetic diversion but language at its most intense and genuine; the poet’s mission is to found a people’s relation to being by withstanding the divine lightning and bringing it into words...

    Heidegger [considers] “The Rhine,” where Hölderlin’s aim is to limn “the beyng of the demigods” (223). (The archaic spelling “beyng” translates Heidegger’s less archaic Seyn, a spelling still used by Hölderlin.) Demigods, existing between gods and humans, are riven and unified by an “intimacy,” or harmony of opposites. There are similarities here to Heraclitus and Hegel, but according to Heidegger, Hölderlin develops an understanding of “beyng” all his own that stands outside the metaphysical tradition and points to the possible new “commencement” (Anfang) of a history that will decide the arrival or flight of the divine.

    Heidegger sums up the beyng of the demigods in a diagram:

    diagram.jpg

    :rotate: :rotate: :rotate: :rotate:

    @Apothe0sis
    Well, that seems perfectly clear and sensible.

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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    anything looks logical if you draw arrows

    sharks -> awesome

    can't argue with that bitches

    Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    Space Sanders is a huge union supporter.

    Yes but he's also looking to improve employment law directly.

    yes indeed, but it takes both and more

    there is no realistic path for labor rights that doesn't involve engaging with unions, there just isn't

    Sure.

    But I don't think we have a 'unions first' path ahead of us any more.

    The republicans won that battle. Unions in america are a shambling corpse.

    Trying to re-form a healthy union system is silly when you can make the change you want directly through legislature.

    If the unions somehow have problems with statutory protection for workers than fuck them.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    BUSH SMOKED MARIJUANA!!!!!!!

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Listen I don't want to cause any trouble but I don't know how comfortable I am having some hippy pothead holding the [chat]-making powers

    I have something to tell you about the previous [chat].

    You may want to sit down for this.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Space Sanders is a huge union supporter.

    Yes but he's also looking to improve employment law directly.

    yes indeed, but it takes both and more

    there is no realistic path for labor rights that doesn't involve engaging with unions, there just isn't

    Sure.

    But I don't think we have a 'unions first' path ahead of us any more.

    The republicans won that battle. Unions in america are a shambling corpse.

    Trying to re-form a healthy union system is silly when you can make the change you want directly through legislature.

    If the unions somehow have problems with statutory protection for workers than fuck them.

    i don't believe in unions first, either

    but trying to change laws first doesnot work either because you can't compete with the mechanisms arrayed against it.

    I agree with Space that Bernie is on the right path to engage both and get people informed and involved.

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    MrMister wrote: »
    Heidegger’s readings of Hölderlin are central to his later thought, but the difficulties of both the poetry and the thought make it a great challenge to translate these texts... Heidegger’s goal is to think about Hölderlin’s poetry without reducing it to prose or pseudophilosophy... a crucial task if great poetry is not just a flimsy aesthetic diversion but language at its most intense and genuine; the poet’s mission is to found a people’s relation to being by withstanding the divine lightning and bringing it into words...

    Heidegger [considers] “The Rhine,” where Hölderlin’s aim is to limn “the beyng of the demigods” (223). (The archaic spelling “beyng” translates Heidegger’s less archaic Seyn, a spelling still used by Hölderlin.) Demigods, existing between gods and humans, are riven and unified by an “intimacy,” or harmony of opposites. There are similarities here to Heraclitus and Hegel, but according to Heidegger, Hölderlin develops an understanding of “beyng” all his own that stands outside the metaphysical tradition and points to the possible new “commencement” (Anfang) of a history that will decide the arrival or flight of the divine.

    Heidegger sums up the beyng of the demigods in a diagram:

    diagram.jpg

    :rotate: :rotate: :rotate: :rotate:

    ~Apothe0sis
    Well, that seems perfectly clear and sensible.
    time is a flat circle

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Listen I don't want to cause any trouble but I don't know how comfortable I am having some hippy pothead holding the [chat]-making powers

    I have something to tell you about the previous [chat].

    You may want to sit down for this.

    Dammit TLDR you know I don't believe in sitting!

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    anything looks logical if you draw arrows

    sharks -> awesome

    can't argue with that bitches

    timecubeflierimg.gif

    well, I'm convinced

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    simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited September 2015
    r.i.p. timecube

    you live on in our hearts and cubes

    edit: I was misinformed! timecube lives!

    simonwolf on
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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    So as far as I can tell, every Republican candidate with the sole exception of Rand Paul plans to wage war if elected.

    So Republicans (who aren't Paul supporters) apparently want another war.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Fun fact, time cube guy got his doctorate and launched a successful line of soaps.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Fun fact, time cube guy got his doctorate and launched a successful line of soaps.

    I want a wedding cake baked and covered in Cubic doctrine. A rotating cube as a cake topper.

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Space Sanders is a huge union supporter.

    Yes but he's also looking to improve employment law directly.

    yes indeed, but it takes both and more

    there is no realistic path for labor rights that doesn't involve engaging with unions, there just isn't

    Sure.

    But I don't think we have a 'unions first' path ahead of us any more.

    The republicans won that battle. Unions in america are a shambling corpse.

    Trying to re-form a healthy union system is silly when you can make the change you want directly through legislature.

    If the unions somehow have problems with statutory protection for workers than fuck them.

    i don't believe in unions first, either

    but trying to change laws first doesnot work either because you can't compete with the mechanisms arrayed against it.

    I agree with Space that Bernie is on the right path to engage both and get people informed and involved.

    If we could get a liberal congress it'd be a cakewalk. It'd be far easier than healthcare!

    Employment law is ripe for the picking.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    So as far as I can tell, every Republican candidate with the sole exception of Rand Paul plans to wage war if elected.

    So Republicans (who aren't Paul supporters) apparently want another war.

    Which country do the Republican candidates want to invade and occupy?

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Fun fact, time cube guy got his doctorate and launched a successful line of soaps.

    was his doctorate in... soaps?

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    So as far as I can tell, every Republican candidate with the sole exception of Rand Paul plans to wage war if elected.

    So Republicans (who aren't Paul supporters) apparently want another war.

    Which country do the Republican candidates want to invade and occupy?

    Iran

    because of course

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    GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    Gonmun shoudnt you be in bed for your walmart trek

    Wife was picking the kiddo's brain tonight actually and he, surprisingly enough, said that he still wants to buy his own Xbox One with money he makes from working part time. Figured it was better to let him have that as we want to try and impress upon him the want to save for something. Besides, it's not like there's a shortage on stuff he wants for Christmas as it is.

    desc wrote: »
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    simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    So as far as I can tell, every Republican candidate with the sole exception of Rand Paul plans to wage war if elected.

    So Republicans (who aren't Paul supporters) apparently want another war.

    Which country do the Republican candidates want to invade and occupy?

    Iran

    because of course

    Of course.

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    It Is The Absolute Verifiable Truth & Proven Fact
    That Your Belly-Button Signature Ties
    To Viviparous Mama.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    This was a really nice evening. G'night, [chat].

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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    MrMister wrote: »
    Heidegger’s readings of Hölderlin are central to his later thought, but the difficulties of both the poetry and the thought make it a great challenge to translate these texts... Heidegger’s goal is to think about Hölderlin’s poetry without reducing it to prose or pseudophilosophy... a crucial task if great poetry is not just a flimsy aesthetic diversion but language at its most intense and genuine; the poet’s mission is to found a people’s relation to being by withstanding the divine lightning and bringing it into words...

    Heidegger [considers] “The Rhine,” where Hölderlin’s aim is to limn “the beyng of the demigods” (223). (The archaic spelling “beyng” translates Heidegger’s less archaic Seyn, a spelling still used by Hölderlin.) Demigods, existing between gods and humans, are riven and unified by an “intimacy,” or harmony of opposites. There are similarities here to Heraclitus and Hegel, but according to Heidegger, Hölderlin develops an understanding of “beyng” all his own that stands outside the metaphysical tradition and points to the possible new “commencement” (Anfang) of a history that will decide the arrival or flight of the divine.

    Heidegger sums up the beyng of the demigods in a diagram:

    diagram.jpg

    :rotate: :rotate: :rotate: :rotate:

    Apothe0sis

    I am reminded of Anne Carson's essays where she attempts to meticulously diagram eros

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    wandering wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Did anyone ever get sent to the future in Star Trek? Would that be too meta?

    Archer went to the 26th century once and the 31st once too

    There was also that TNG episode with Picard being in 3 timelines, but that was just his consciousness, not sure if it counts.
    The marine biologist in IV

    If we're not restricted to main cast, then the 21st inventor that stole the timemachine in TNG

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    So as far as I can tell, every Republican candidate with the sole exception of Rand Paul plans to wage war if elected.

    So Republicans (who aren't Paul supporters) apparently want another war.

    Which country do the Republican candidates want to invade and occupy?

    so far syria, iran, iraq, north korea, russia, and i think possibly france

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    A lot of it is posturing of course, because these candidates have to please their Israeli overlords.

    But there are several who I really don't trust to not seek out a war if elected.

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Good night cB!

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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    I like Eddy's thread. It is a good thread.

    My mind has largely been revolving around misclassification as well as if it would be somehow magically possible to get NYC to pass a bill allowing ICs to collectively bargain, all preemption and antitrust aside

    If I could solve that latter conundrum I would feel masturbatorily vindicated

    Eddy on
    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    MrMister wrote: »
    TL DR wrote: »
    Fun fact, time cube guy got his doctorate and launched a successful line of soaps.

    was his doctorate in... soaps?

    Bronner-label.jpg

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Uh that's not the time cube guy

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    The American disdain for the French is vastly overstated and overplayed.

    Both nations citizens view the people of the other nation favorably, by very wide margins. They were our very first ally as a country, and unless you count our participation of the overthrow of Vichy (and trust me, the French don't), we haven't been in conflict in well over a hundred years.

    It's not even a thing, here or there.

    And hell we both produce rude tourists so we can always share that with the world.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    Uh that's not the time cube guy

    How dare you

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    (I was poking fun at their similar nonsensical writing styles)

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    I see.

    You must forgive me.

    I am educated stupid.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    The American disdain for the French is vastly overstated and overplayed.

    Both nations citizens view the people of the other nation favorably, by very wide margins. They were our very first ally as a country, and unless you count our participation of the overthrow of Vichy (and trust me, the French don't), we haven't been in conflict in well over a hundred years.

    It's not even a thing, here or there.

    And hell we both produce rude tourists so we can always share that with the world.
    Nobody was even rude to me when I was in Paris, and I didn't speak a single word of French!

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    Did anyone ever get sent to the future in Star Trek? Would that be too meta?

    Archer went to the 26th century once and the 31st once too

    There was also that TNG episode with Picard being in 3 timelines, but that was just his consciousness, not sure if it counts.

    Hey, that wasn't just a TNG episode, that was the awesome series finale.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Hi.

    I made a game! Hotline Maui. Requires mouse and keyboard.
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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Key isn't a true antipathy for the French but instead they are easy to make jokes about. Plus our 20th century pivot back towards England and Anglophone society is part of it.

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    I tried to watch the Republican debate but I just couldn't--not because I disagree with them (though of course I do), but just because I find the "grown adults shoving each other around in a dog and pony show" element to be unbearably excruciating to watch

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2015
    i have a real question for chat

    what has allying with Israel actually done for us? I understand that having an ally in the Middle East is certainly in the USA's interests, but at this point I kind of feel like it was a short-sighted effort to solidify gains that has ultimately cost us more than we've gained?

    Also bejamin netanyahu's behavior is noisome and gross

    Orphane on
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