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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    minirhyder wrote: »

    Not a gun debate thread!

    Nah.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    goddammit not again

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Jesus fucking christ...

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    i wandered over to 4chan after reading that the oregon school shooter posted there last night

    it's so weird when I read individual persons go for a hardcore libertarian men's rights stance, like I never remember that actual people actually think certain ways

    and to see bullied social outcasts go to 4chan and get trained into thinking this way like some extremely efficient terror cell

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Reuters is reporting 15 dead, 20 injured.

    America is so fucked when it comes to gun culture and I have no idea how it's going to get better.

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    America..

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Oh no

    That is a lot of dead

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Yup, it's got to the point where my reaction to these things is a shrug and a sigh.

    Which is awful.

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
  • LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    Every time I read about something like this, it's like a kick to the chest.

    And for me it only gets more and more crushing each time.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    These are now so frequent that if it were any other subject we'd probably condense it into a megathread.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Can't wait to hear how more guns could fix it

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Fuck.

    Just jeez I mean...

    Fuck.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    This the 45th shooting at a school this year.

    We still have to take our shoes off at the airport because of one guy who did one thing that didn't even work, but guns ahoy for goddamn fucking ever apparently

  • minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
    Can't wait to hear how more guns could fix it

    I've already seen nonsense about how it's too bad that it's a gun free campus, this tragedy could have easily been avoided if everyone'd been packing.

    Makes me want to puke.

  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    And yet nothing is going to change.

  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    Oh god not again

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  • 101101 Registered User regular
    BBC is reporting 13 dead.

    It's really depressing that we've got about a week until everything returns to business as usual.

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    101 wrote: »
    BBC is reporting 13 dead.

    It's really depressing that we've got about a week until everything returns to business as usual.

    Well, this already is business as usual, given that we're averaging one of these a week

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited October 2015
    Unfortunately there is the fact that all these people have died and it's difficult to even muster shock for them, which is just awful, and it's even more difficult to imagine that the loss of their lives will result in anything positive like change. Already there are the false flag complainers, the cnn analysts saying the schools gun free zone is to blame.

    My heart goes out to those in pain but if a dozen dead 6 year olds didn't have any Impact on America's gun culture, it is hard to imagine what would. It seems invulnerable, invisible.

    I hate to say this but maybe if Islamic extremists were to have bought weapons legally and used them in an attack it would be the only way anything would change, hooray racism

    Prohass on
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Straightzi wrote: »
    101 wrote: »
    BBC is reporting 13 dead.

    It's really depressing that we've got about a week until everything returns to business as usual.

    Well, this already is business as usual, given that we're averaging one of these a week

    It's way more than that.

  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    I can't wait for the NRA's standard issue derpshit response to this. I am now at the point where I aggressively unfriend and/or don't associate with anyone I know to be vehementlt Pro Gun. Completely done with ignorant lunatics in my life.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    If you want to bring it down to one a week you have to narrow it down to "only mass shootings that happened in schools".

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    101 wrote: »
    BBC is reporting 13 dead.

    It's really depressing that we've got about a week until everything returns to business as usual.

    Rural west coast with a tropical storm bearing down on New York City. You have roughly 17 hours to grieve before you never see it on TV again.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    101 wrote: »
    BBC is reporting 13 dead.

    It's really depressing that we've got about a week until everything returns to business as usual.

    Rural west coast with a tropical storm bearing down on New York City. You have roughly 17 hours to grieve before you never see it on TV again.

    Technically a hurricane now, your estimate may be too optimistic.

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

    Probably not until after the blue tide of the 2020 elections.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    This is the second this week that I know of.

    North Dakota had one but the shooter was tackled immediately afterwards. The victim, the school's principle, was wounded in the arm and in good spirits.

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  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

    Considering that every fucking country that has actually done this has had success it is infuriating that everyone thinks it a pipe dream

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

    Until there is a gun in the hand of every adult male and ZERO gun free zones, the pro gun lobby will always advocate more guns. It will never end. Sandy Hook proved that.

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

    Until there is a gun in the hand of every adult male and ZERO gun free zones, the pro gun lobby will always advocate more guns. It will never end. Sandy Hook proved that.

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  • I ZimbraI Zimbra Worst song, played on ugliest guitar Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

    Until there is a gun in the hand of every adult male and ZERO gun free zones, the pro gun lobby will always advocate more guns. It will never end. Sandy Hook proved that.

    The school wasn't a gun-free zone. Public colleges in Oregon can't ban guns.

  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    can we please focus on and help the mentally ill

    this is getting fucking stupid

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2015
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    John Hanlin, Douglas County Sherriff, is holding a press conference. He said that officers arrived to campus following a 911 call, engaged the suspect, and the suspect was neutralised after an exchange of gunfire.
    He will only say that the the suspect was a male who is now deceased.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11905602/Shooter-on-university-campus-of-Umpqua-Community-College-in-Oregon-live.html

    Brolo on
  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »
    can we please focus on and help the mentally ill

    this is getting fucking stupid

    We can do that, sure.

    We can also recognize that guns are a problem that need to be dealt with.

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    I Zimbra wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    we've been trying "more guns = less gun violence" for a long time and it's not fucking working, when do we get to try something else

    Until there is a gun in the hand of every adult male and ZERO gun free zones, the pro gun lobby will always advocate more guns. It will never end. Sandy Hook proved that.

    The school wasn't a gun-free zone. Public colleges in Oregon can't ban guns.

    Just the concept of a gun free zone existing somewhere in the country is enough to keep the rhetoric going from the entrenched pro gun side, talking heads are already saying it was a gun free zone, and that lie likely won't go examined or criticised by the majority who feel that it conforms to their view that if only liberals would let people defend themselves with more guns, everything would be ok

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »
    can we please focus on and help the mentally ill

    this is getting fucking stupid

    right now we have no idea if he was mentally ill

    and also the last big shooting in charleston wasn't at all provoked by mental illness

    its a part of the problem

    but here's what we do know:

    Someone used a gun to kill a bunch of people

    and guns are easy as hell to get

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