"Honest" Ben Carson vs. Donald "The Donald" Trump

Atomika

When is the next Republican presidential debate?
The third Republican presidential debate — titled “Your Money, Your Vote” — will be Wednesday, Oct. 28, live from the Coors Events Center at the University of Colorado in Boulder, which is used to hosting 11,000 fans for University of Colorado basketball games. The debate will begin at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.

How long is the debate?
After days of tense negotiations between candidates and CNBC, the debate is set to run two hours (including commercial breaks). Originally expected to be another marathon session, CNBC acquiesced to the demands of several of the contenders eager for a more succinct session.

How can I watch the debate?
The debate will air on CNBC, which says it reaches more than 100 million homes in the United States and Canada.

Does this debate have a theme?
CNBC says the debate will pay particular attention to economic issues, including taxes, retirement spending, and job growth. CNBC also says tech policy will come up in the questioning.

Who will participate in the debate?
Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina, Chris Christie, and John Kasich.

Who will participate in the 6 p.m. debate?
The same four candidates who appeared in the last undercard debate: Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal, George Pataki, and Lindsey Graham.

How did CNBC decide who will be in the debate?
For the main draw, CNBC took nine “methodically sound” polls released between Sept. 20 and Oct. 21 and gave a spot to anyone with an average of at least 3 percent. The 6 p.m. debate includes four candidates polling with an average of at least 1 percent.

What about Ben Carson’s new front-runner status?
Even though Carson has polled well in the past week in Iowa, that doesn’t change his median standing in national polls. Because of the way CNBC averaged these national polls, Carson will appear next to Trump, the man at the top and in the center.

Where will they stand on stage?
Donald Trump, the highest polling candidate with an average of 25.22 percent, will stand center-stage for the debate, though with an even number of candidates, Carson also will appear in the center, polling at 19.78 percent. To Trump’s right will be Rubio, Bush, Huckabee, and Kasich. To Carson’s left will be Fiorina, Cruz, Christie, and Paul. There will not be a podium reserved for Joe Biden.

Who will moderate the debate?
There will be three moderators, all from CNBC: John Harwood, the chief Washington correspondent, Becky Quick, co-anchor of the Wall Street-focused show “Squawk Box,” and Quick’s co-anchor, Carl Quintanilla.

Kid Presentable

Excellent. I will watch this event as I watch all of these proceedings, like an insect drawn to the searing light of a bug zapper.

Surfpossum

Is that seriously its title? That's pretty terrible, I don't really want my money having anything to do with my vote.

Also NPR was making a fuss out of the stadium being able to seat 11,000 but only 1,000 (I think?) tickets being offered despite demand. Is that normal? Seems pretty legit, since I imagine 11k viewers have a much greater capacity for disruption than 1k, but I dunno.

spool32

If Chris Christie strangles someone on stage, it would not prevent me from wanting him to win the primary.


This is my current opinion of the GOP field. I weep for my party.



*smokebomb*

Atomika

spool32 wrote: »

If Chris Christie strangles someone on stage, it would not prevent me from wanting him to win the primary.


This is my current opinion of the GOP field. I weep for my party.



*smokebomb*

yup

I'm really surprised that Christie isn't doing better, considering how many people were begging for him last cycle.

AngelHedgie

Florida Newspaper did not appreciate Florida Man saying he hates his job, calls on him to resign:

After five years in the U.S. Senate, Marco Rubio does not like his job. A long-time friend told The Washington Post "he hates it." Rubio says hate might be too strong a word, but he sure acts like he hates his job.

Rubio has missed more votes than any other senator this year. His seat is regularly empty for floor votes, committee meetings and intelligence briefings. He says he's MIA from his J-O-B because he finds it frustrating and wants to be president, instead.

"I'm not missing votes because I'm on vacation," he told CNN on Sunday. "I'm running for president so that the votes they take in the Senate are actually meaningful again."

Sorry, senator, but Floridians sent you to Washington to do a job. We've got serious problems with clogged highways, eroding beaches, flat Social Security checks and people who want to shut down the government.

If you hate your job, senator, follow the honorable lead of House Speaker John Boehner and resign it.

Let us elect someone who wants to be there and earn an honest dollar for an honest day's work. Don't leave us without one of our two representatives in the Senate for the next 15 months or so.

You are paid $174,000 per year to represent us, to fight for us, to solve our problems. Plus you take a $10,000 federal subsidy — declined by some in the Senate — to participate in one of the Obamacare health plans, though you are a big critic of Obamacare.

You are ripping us off, senator.

True, it's not easy to raise money and run a presidential campaign while doing your day job. But two other candidates — Sens. Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders — have missed only 10 Senate votes during their campaigns for the White House. You, on the other hand, have missed 59, according to a tally by Politico. This includes votes on the Keystone pipeline, the Export-Import Bank and trade, to name just a few.

It is unpersuasive — and incredible, really — that you say your vote doesn't matter. "Voting is not the most important part of the job," you told CNN.

And it is unconscionable that when it comes to intelligence matters, including briefings on the Iran nuclear deal, you said, "we have a staffer that's assigned to intelligence who gets constant briefings."

And you want us to take you seriously as a presidential candidate?

Two weeks ago, you took to the Senate floor to excoriate federal workers at the Department of Veterans Affairs for failing to do their jobs. You said, "there is really no other job in the country where if you don't do your job, you don't get fired."

With the exception of your job, right?

Look, a lot us are frustrated by our jobs and office politics. But we still show up for work every day to earn a paycheck.

By choosing to stay in the Senate and get the publicity, perks and pay that go with the position — without doing the work — you are taking advantage of us.

Jeb Bush is right to call you out. "What are high standards worth if we don't apply them to ourselves?" our former governor said in August. "Consider a pattern in Congress of members who sometimes seem to regard attendance and voting as optional — something to do as time permits."

Your job is to represent Floridians in the Senate.

Either do your job, Sen. Rubio, or resign it.

Harry Dresden

spool32 wrote: »

If Chris Christie strangles someone on stage, it would not prevent me from wanting him to win the primary.


This is my current opinion of the GOP field. I weep for my party.



*smokebomb*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFyGmy6rjgM

AngelHedgie

https://twitter.com/SonnyBunch/status/659118447100608512

...cannot make this shit up, folks.

Atomika

AngelHedgie wrote: »

...cannot make this shit up, folks.

"Fact-checkers are partisan hacks. So what if I plagiarize, or make shit up and try to pass it off as quotes from historical figures? Big fuckin' deal! Libruls, amirite?"

AngelHedgie

And in actual debate news, the lesser campaigns fume at candidates being given green rooms befitting their status:

During a tense 30-minute meeting at the Coors Event Center, which was described by three sources present, several lower-polling campaigns lashed out at the RNC. They accused the committee of allotting them less-than-hospitable greenroom spaces while unfairly giving lavish ones to higher-polling candidates, such as Donald Trump and Ben Carson.
The drama began Tuesday afternoon as RNC officials led campaigns on a walk-through of the debate site. After touring the stage, candidates got a peek at what their greenrooms looked like.
Trump was granted a spacious room, complete with plush chairs and a flat-screen TV. Marco Rubio got a theater-type room, packed with leather seats for him and his team of aides. Carly Fiorina’s room had a Jacuzzi.

Then there was Chris Christie, whose small space was dominated by a toilet. So was Rand Paul’s.

https://twitter.com/LaCivitaC/status/659101621222158336

https://twitter.com/LaCivitaC/status/659114629704978432

Again, I cannot make this shit up, as there are not nearly enough drugs in the world to come up with this stuff.

Creamstout

I'm assuming there is no stream for this debate since it isn't listed in the OP, would that be a correct assumption?

AngelHedgie

Creamstout wrote: »

I'm assuming there is no stream for this debate since it isn't listed in the OP, would that be a correct assumption?

Streams usually aren't listed until they're live.

Ilpala

Atomika wrote: »

Does this debate have a theme?
CNBC says the debate will pay particular attention to economic issues, including taxes, retirement spending, and job growth. CNBC also says tech policy will come up in the questioning.

Dammit, I might actually have to shelve the Spurs game if they're not gonna waste time waving their dicks around regarding Iran and ISIS.

Atomika

Ilpala wrote: »

Atomika wrote: »

Does this debate have a theme?
CNBC says the debate will pay particular attention to economic issues, including taxes, retirement spending, and job growth. CNBC also says tech policy will come up in the questioning.

Dammit, I might actually have to shelve the Spurs game if they're not gonna waste time waving their dicks around regarding Iran and ISIS.

Too bad Scott Walker dropped out, he would have found a way to tie it all in together


that dumbass

Delzhand

I thought the thread title was a joke...

AngelHedgie

Delzhand wrote: »

I thought the thread title was a joke...

Hi, and welcome to the traveling three ring circus we call the GOP Primary!

Raiden333

Shit, didn't realize there was a debate tonight, not gonna be home from work in time. Here's hoping there's a stream that works on my phone.

Brutal J

Atomika wrote: »

When is the next Republican presidential debate?
The third Republican presidential debate — titled “Your Money, Your Vote” — will be Wednesday, Oct. 28, live from the Coors Events Center at the University of Colorado in Boulder, which is used to hosting 11,000 fans for University of Colorado basketball games. The debate will begin at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.

Wait, wait, woah now, stop. You mean to tell me this thread title isn't a joke?!

Poe's law has won the day again it seems.

Edit: Delzhand beat me to it, but the point stands. I thought for sure it was a drinking game + Super Pac joke.

redx

Surfpossum wrote: »

Is that seriously its title? That's pretty terrible, I don't really want my money having anything to do with my vote.

Also NPR was making a fuss out of the stadium being able to seat 11,000 but only 1,000 (I think?) tickets being offered despite demand. Is that normal? Seems pretty legit, since I imagine 11k viewers have a much greater capacity for disruption than 1k, but I dunno.

You aren't a lobbyist

SniperGuy

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2015/10/23/rnc-provides-50-more-debate-tickets-cu-boulder-students-faculty

The RNC had already provided 100 tickets for university use, and has now carved out an additional 50 tickets from the overall allotment at the Coors Events Center debate site. The size of the ticketed audience remains at just over 1,000 people.

Yeah so good luck getting to go if you're a student there. Huge space, very very few tickets.

Also that title is hilarious.

DevoutlyApathetic

I wonder if they're trying to avoid another "Crowd cheers poor people dying in the streets" moment or what.

DarkPrimus

"Your Money, Your Vote"

You can't even play the Archer "Phrasing!" joke at this. They know exactly what it sounds like.

Trace

DarkPrimus wrote: »

"Your Money, Your Vote"

You can't even play the Archer "Phrasing!" joke at this. They know exactly what it sounds like.

I vote hookers and blow personally.

Atomika

I kept trying to come up with something better than the OP title I went with

once again, conservative reality beats manufactured comedy

Ilpala

I guess they were helping him prepare for the debate given the venue, but Lindsey Graham was doing a bar interview with Dana Bash when she got him to play "date, marry, or make disappear forever" with Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, and Carly Fiorina.

I mean, that's where we're at. Thanks, CNN.

Creamstout

Free and Equal Email, looks like some CU Students are throwing their own political event.

info@freeandequal.com wrote:

Greetings Free and Equal Supporters,


The #StudentVoicesCount movement and BeHeard—a non-profit, non-partisan, unaffiliated, Millennial-run news network will be broadcasting LIVE during the GOP debate at the University of Colorado at Boulder on Wednesday October 28, 2015 from 3-6pm MT.

#StudentVoicesCount respectfully calls on the RNC, CNBC, and CU to issue a number of tickets more representative of the 30,000 plus members of the university community, and to discuss with us how to best engage the student body.

Out of 1,100 tickets to the Republican Primary Debate at UC Boulder tonight, only 150 are available to students and faculty.

#StudentVoicesCount Coordinator, Aaron Estevez-Miller stated, "We're aiming to have our own live broadcast during the debate, in which we will discuss the issues facing our generation and nation."

Broadcast stream online here: http://www.beheardtv.com/boulder-live-event

Time & Location: University Club Lawn on CU Boulder campus, 3:00 – 5:45 PM
Student Panel Discussion: 3:00 – 3:30 PM Guest Personalities: 3:30 – 5:45 PM

Student Panel (starts at 3:00 PM)

Aaron Estevez-Miller: #StudentVoicesCount Coordinator, CU Boulder, Economics and International Affairs, Senior
James Casey: #StudentVoicesCount Advocate, CU Boulder, Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology, Junior
William Raley: #StudentVoicesCount Advocate, CU Boulder, Architecture, Senior
Michael McGrady, Contributor to Red Alert Politics, CU Colorado Springs, Political Science, Sophomore/Junior
Brooke Fox: USA Today Collegiate Correspondent, CU Boulder, Finance and English, Senior
Guest Appearances: (starts at 3:40 PM)

3:40 - 3:55 PM Alex Smith (National Chairwoman of College Republican National Committee)
3:55 - 4:15 PM: Governor O'Malley (Presidential Candidate for the Democratic Party)
4:15 - 4:30 PM: Scott Schaefer (Former Vice Chair of the Boulder County GOP)
4:35 - 4:45 PM: Alexander McCobin (Co-founder and President of Students for Liberty)
4:50 - 5:00 PM: Dr. Jill Stein (2012 Green Party Presidential Candidate)
5:00 - 5:15 PM: Morgan Young (Current Vice Chair of the Boulder County Democrats)
5:15 – 5:30 PM: Christina Tobin (Founder and Chair of the Free and Equal Elections Foundation)
5:35 - 5:45 PM: U.S. Congressman Polis (U.S. Representative for District Two)

Student Voices Count is a non-partisan national movement of CU students and supporters who stand in solidarity.

Trace

although this does make sense in a weird sort of way

weak American beer sponsors weak GOP candidates

Fencingsax

Okay, kids table go!

Brutal J

Even though the focus is supposed to be on the economy, I hope they ask if the candidates support Paul Ryan for speaker, just so Trump & the Loons can publicly throw him under the bus a day before the vote.

Fencingsax

Jindal just suggested supermajority to increase the budget.

milski

Fencingsax wrote: »

Jindal just suggested supermajority to increase the budget.

Yeah that would be insane even if the concept of interest wasn't a thing.

Ilpala

"Why is Jindal wrong?" "Threats to homeland, Obama incompetence, arglebargle"

Fencingsax

Question to Santorum: "Flat Taxes are stupid. explain why your stupid flat tax isn't stupid"

Raiden333

Email server! :rotate:

notdroid

On the first debate, a friend of mine pointed out that Fiorina blinks weirdly when she speaks.

Since then, I have never been able to listen to her as I'm distracted by the blinking.

I am now sharing this information with you ahead of the debate, so that you too may never have the ability to listen to what Fiorina says ever again.

You're welcome.

Ilpala

Jindal: "Why even have a corporate tax at all? :rotate: "

"Get rid of all the loopholes!" "What about this incredibly popular sounding one." "Well..."

Fencingsax

Graham may have just have had his breakout moment.

notdroid

Ilpala wrote: »

Jindal: "Why even have a corporate tax at all? :rotate: "

From a credibility or intelligence standpoint, the fact that Jindal is actually trying to run for President means that anything he could possibly say or do basically counts as a win.

Amphetamine

is lindsay graham that short or is his stage placement lower than everyone else's

Atomika

Taxes should only be for poor people who aren't smart enough to be billionaires or clergy.

Raiden333

https://twitter.com/DougBenson/status/659496689783300096

Just saw this scroll by in the ticker at the bottom.