Man, this ep really doesn't put Rose in a good light.
Like no matter where you fall on the moral stuff it's real fucked up to imprison her even after you're in a place where she can't hurt you and then lie to everyone else when you could have probably just told them the truth?
Man, this ep really doesn't put Rose in a good light.
Like no matter where you fall on the moral stuff it's real fucked up to imprison her even after you're in a place where she can't hurt you and then lie to everyone else when you could have probably just told them the truth?
"I always thought I might be bad
now I'm sure that it's true
cause I think you're so good
and I'm nothing like you"
Man, this ep really doesn't put Rose in a good light.
Like no matter where you fall on the moral stuff it's real fucked up to imprison her even after you're in a place where she can't hurt you and then lie to everyone else when you could have probably just told them the truth?
Bismuth was probably not the only one wanting to go that far. Rose wouldn't want any infighting in her army.
Man I really don't like the decision to bubble Bismuth, that doesn't sit right with me.
I don't really like it either but I'm not really sure what other option they had
it's the nonlethal "jail" option, batman would approve. It didn't seem like there was anyway to talk her down, and she was perfectly willing to murder steven
I don't see any other way out short of breaking her gem.
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
So a lot of the stuff in Lion's mane pocket dimension are essentially keepsakes that she wanted to pass on to steven (her sword, the videotape, etc).
Why leave bismuth in there too? Something she didn't want anyone ever to find out about? Why force Steven to potentially have to reap what she sowed some day?
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
Sorry, what rose did was super, super wrong
I'm talking about what steven did
steven's already been starting to clue in to the fact that rose maybe wasn't the infallible leader the other gems believe her to be, and I'm really eager to see how he responds to this whole thing in the coming episodes
for that matter, I want to know how the gems are going react, especially pearl
edit: and fuck, does he even TELL greg how he feels about his mom now?
So a lot of the stuff in Lion's mane pocket dimension are essentially keepsakes that she wanted to pass on to steven (her sword, the videotape, etc).
Why leave bismuth in there too? Something she didn't want anyone ever to find out about? Why force Steven to potentially have to reap what she sowed some day?
Maybe... Maybe she thought Steven would be better than her, and convince Bismuth in a way that she couldn't conceive of. Maybe she hoped that Homeworld would never return, and that when Bismuth was found, she'd never have to consider the Breaking Point again.
Or maybe she simply believed that Steven would have a chance to be Bismuth's friend, whereas she could never again, after what happened. So she put Bismuth somewhere that Steven would be able to find, so that Bismuth could one day be freed, after Rose was gone from the world.
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
Sorry, what rose did was super, super wrong
I'm talking about what steven did
steven's already been starting to clue in to the fact that rose maybe wasn't the infallible leader the other gems believe her to be, and I'm really eager to see how he responds to this whole thing in the coming episodes
for that matter, I want to know how the gems are going react, especially pearl
edit: and fuck, does he even TELL greg how he feels about his mom now?
I don't know how they're ever going to do the final greg and rose episode...the one about steven's birth where she neglects to mention to the gems or greg that creating steven will destroy her probably until the last second
When we first saw the two of them on the tape you get the sense that Greg had no idea what was coming, I don't see how he could have possibly agreed to it if he knew it would kill her.
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
Then at least tell people! Like Pearl and Garnet are obviously heartbroken over most of the war so what purpose does it serve to go "Oh yeah I lost track of her, she may have been captured or killed."
Sorry, what rose did was super, super wrong
I'm talking about what steven did
Oh okay, sorry for the confusion.
I really love the concept that Bismuth laid out which is "you're not Rose, you're better then her."
I thought in that case it's more that literally every guy in that panel is in love with jean grey, the old incarnation of her is kind of the archetypal mary sue?
I can understand why Rose did what she did. I'm sure she had plans to release Bismuth after the final battle and then the Diamonds nuked everything with their corruption-light. Now Rose is left with the nagging question if this could have been all avoided if she did take the Breaking Point and I'm guessing the idea that maybe been it could have avoided ate at her so much that she just couldn't face Bismuth or even let Pearl or Garnet know what happened.
Mind you, I personally don't see how the Breaking Point would have been an actual game-changer in a fight. I feel like Bismuth might have been putting too much stock on it's power and the weight of it's threat when it comes to using it on at least the elite Homeworld Gems and the Diamonds in particular. I think if anything it would have had a worse effect on the Crystal Gem army if there were more close to sharing Bismuth's thoughts on permanently taking down the Homeworld Gems.
I thought in that case it's more that literally every guy in that panel is in love with jean grey, the old incarnation of her is kind of the archetypal mary sue?
A Mary Sue is a super-capable author-insert character, I don't think she fits that description at all.
I kind of agree with Bismuth. (On her original point, not acting crazy in the present.) Not wanting to kill is admirable, but I mean, they were fighting a war. And potentially because of Rose's choice almost every crystal gem essentially "died."
So a lot of the stuff in Lion's mane pocket dimension are essentially keepsakes that she wanted to pass on to steven (her sword, the videotape, etc).
Why leave bismuth in there too? Something she didn't want anyone ever to find out about? Why force Steven to have to reap what she sowed?
remember how when steven learned that he could heal things, the other gems said rose could never hear the corrupted gems, but that maybe he could?
Maybe rose thought steven could talk her out of it
Based on the babysitter episode I think
Righting the wrongs she couldnt is exactly why she made Steven. She saw her flaws even if the others didn't. She wanted to grow and improve. She also probably wanted a clean slate.
Come to think of it that line is a really good explanation for why the CG's stay the same for thousands of years but change so rapidly now. They alone CANT change. Humanity changes them but they avoid that as best as they can until Steven.
It makes sense to me that Pearl and Garnet never mentioned her. The crystal gems during the rebellion is starting to feel like an actual army, most of which were apparently shattered. Not only is it difficult to talk about, but according to Rose, she was just another casualty.
I can completely sympathize with Bismuth wanting to use the Breaking Point. Just look at the name. Watching your friends die beside you, not everyone is strong enough to forever turn the other cheek. Everyone has their...you know.
I also don't think we've seen the last of her. Most of what angered her towards Rose was just stashing her away then lying about it. Steven didn't do that. He was always honest to and about her, and I feel like that will go a long way.
I don't agree with bubbling her indefinitely. Like yeah she's super strong but if Steven was there with his bubble shield, and with Garnet, Amethyst, & Pearl, I'm sure they could talk to her in relative safety. Bismuth's not crazy, she just like literally woke up from an incredibly awful war. I'm, like, certain that Pearl, Garnet, Amethyst, and Steven could eventually talk some sense in her.
And I don't even disagree with her about wanting to take the fight to homeworld to try and free other gems what seems to be a pretty shitty caste-based society. Steven and the gems probably wouldn't help her, Earth really is their home and where they've decided their responsibilities lie, but if she wants to try all on her own? I mean, I'm pretty sure that so long as homeworld is making more gems they are causing far, far more death than Bismuth ever could. It's a moral grey area but, I mean, Bismuth has pretty convincing reasoning. And Steven, who neither lived in gem society nor lived through the gem war doesn't really have the right to judge her.
Like, if they could just convince Bismuth to not attack Steven or any other gem on Earth, they really don't have a basis for keeping her captive anymore. And I'm pretty sure they could do that.
Man, this ep really doesn't put Rose in a good light.
Like no matter where you fall on the moral stuff it's real fucked up to imprison her even after you're in a place where she can't hurt you and then lie to everyone else when you could have probably just told them the truth?
I am assuming
When Bismuth was last poofed, there were a lot of crystal gems at the time that would have potentially agreed with using a weapon that could shatter another gem, and Rose didn't want that idea to gain momentum.
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Like no matter where you fall on the moral stuff it's real fucked up to imprison her even after you're in a place where she can't hurt you and then lie to everyone else when you could have probably just told them the truth?
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"I always thought I might be bad
now I'm sure that it's true
cause I think you're so good
and I'm nothing like you"
Greg: "I know so little about you!"
Rose: "That's a good thing."
I always figured there was some hidden guilt behind that line. Now I know what it was, precisely.
I don't see any other way out short of breaking her gem.
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Yeah it's fucked up that rose lied about it
I'm talking about what steven did
Edit: which is not to say it was right.
Why leave bismuth in there too? Something she didn't want anyone ever to find out about? Why force Steven to potentially have to reap what she sowed some day?
for that matter, I want to know how the gems are going react, especially pearl
edit: and fuck, does he even TELL greg how he feels about his mom now?
Maybe rose thought steven could talk her out of it
Or maybe she simply believed that Steven would have a chance to be Bismuth's friend, whereas she could never again, after what happened. So she put Bismuth somewhere that Steven would be able to find, so that Bismuth could one day be freed, after Rose was gone from the world.
Maybe... I just can't say for sure.
When we first saw the two of them on the tape you get the sense that Greg had no idea what was coming, I don't see how he could have possibly agreed to it if he knew it would kill her.
Oh okay, sorry for the confusion.
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maybe sooner rather than later if Jasper figures out bubble prison has more gems in one place than anywhere on the planet
They're not Xaviering Rose, are they?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cyri9ukx8f3flst/stevens_ringtone.mp3?dl=0
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From X-Men #4
Yeah, we know what happened with Bismuth and Lapis, but it could be those characters will never cross paths.
Mind you, I personally don't see how the Breaking Point would have been an actual game-changer in a fight. I feel like Bismuth might have been putting too much stock on it's power and the weight of it's threat when it comes to using it on at least the elite Homeworld Gems and the Diamonds in particular. I think if anything it would have had a worse effect on the Crystal Gem army if there were more close to sharing Bismuth's thoughts on permanently taking down the Homeworld Gems.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
"CRYSTAL GEMS" *flex*
I'd make a new avatar but I'll refrain for a few weeks to not spoil folks.
A Mary Sue is a super-capable author-insert character, I don't think she fits that description at all.
Based on the babysitter episode I think
Come to think of it that line is a really good explanation for why the CG's stay the same for thousands of years but change so rapidly now. They alone CANT change. Humanity changes them but they avoid that as best as they can until Steven.
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I can completely sympathize with Bismuth wanting to use the Breaking Point. Just look at the name. Watching your friends die beside you, not everyone is strong enough to forever turn the other cheek. Everyone has their...you know.
I also don't think we've seen the last of her. Most of what angered her towards Rose was just stashing her away then lying about it. Steven didn't do that. He was always honest to and about her, and I feel like that will go a long way.
And I don't even disagree with her about wanting to take the fight to homeworld to try and free other gems what seems to be a pretty shitty caste-based society. Steven and the gems probably wouldn't help her, Earth really is their home and where they've decided their responsibilities lie, but if she wants to try all on her own? I mean, I'm pretty sure that so long as homeworld is making more gems they are causing far, far more death than Bismuth ever could. It's a moral grey area but, I mean, Bismuth has pretty convincing reasoning. And Steven, who neither lived in gem society nor lived through the gem war doesn't really have the right to judge her.
Like, if they could just convince Bismuth to not attack Steven or any other gem on Earth, they really don't have a basis for keeping her captive anymore. And I'm pretty sure they could do that.
yooooooo is that the leg of a new fusion
I am assuming