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SEGA finding new ways to disappoint us in 2024

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Just discovered a channel that is watching every episode of Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog...for some reason (and I'm watching it...for some reason).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGTsjrmA3wI

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    LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
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    Like Mega Man Legends? Then check out my story, Legends of the Halcyon Era - An Adventure in the World of Mega Man Legends on TMMN and AO3!
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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    It probably helps they haven't released any Sonic games for a while.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Castlevania: Resurrection, the canceled (and if the stories are to be believed, intentionally sabotaged) Dreamcast Castlevania game, has been found
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXzbJMFwmCc

    A Swiss Dreamcast preservationist and collector was contacted by someone who has a playable build, and he then sent them a video of the game being played. (The owner did not share a copy of the build, however) It's a build from just before the only existing known build, which was shown behind closed doors at E3 1999. A little more info here: https://www.sega-dreamcast-info-games-preservation.com/castelvania-resurrection-dreamcast

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    LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited April 2021
    Please pardon my self-promotion, but I'm honestly not sure anyone else has covered this in this much depth:



    http://www.poisonmushroom.org/2021/04/alex-kidd-in-miracle-world-dx-release-info-finally-revealed/

    And as a show of good faith, if all you want is the trailer and you don't care about the physical releases, collector's edition, etc., here's the trailer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCeCw3r22rs

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Please pardon my self-promotion, but I'm honestly not sure anyone else has covered this in this much depth:



    http://www.poisonmushroom.org/2021/04/alex-kidd-in-miracle-world-dx-release-info-finally-revealed/

    And as a show of good faith, if all you want is the trailer and you don't care about the physical releases, collector's edition, etc., here's the trailer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCeCw3r22rs

    Okay, those enemies are fucking incredible.

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    Wait, I never put this together before, but is Alex Kidd's design a Sun Wukong reference? Because this is how Nintendo and Capcom were depicting Goku in the 80's:
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    Red suit, yellow scarf, brown hair, bushy eyebrows.

    If you're curious about my icon; it's an update of the early Lego Castle theme's "Black Falcons" faction.
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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    He's always been a Sun Wukong reference, he's a monkey boy after all.

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    august wrote: »
    He's always been a Sun Wukong reference, he's a monkey boy after all.

    Is he? Huh, I did not know that.

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    If you're curious about my icon; it's an update of the early Lego Castle theme's "Black Falcons" faction.
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I dunno if the world is ready for live action Rouge the Bat.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    Is that a coffee shop called Mean Bean Machine?

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    The copter has SA-2, which is also cute

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Chall wrote: »
    Is that a coffee shop called Mean Bean Machine?

    Apparently there was a cut reference from the first movie where Robotnik had a coffee maker of his own design called the Mean Bean Machine.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    I dunno if the world is ready for live action Rouge the Bat.

    it'd be like The Snap

    a probably significant number of people with some particular tastes would just hop on Facebook and then spontaneously combust

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    yes yes yes

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Sonic Move 2
    & Knuckles

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Batman went to Casinopolis

    Scheming Minor 🏳️‍🌈
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    Riddler's hideout is literally Sonic Adventure Casinopolis.

    I can't even... #Batman
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    Green LanternGreen Lantern Registered User regular
    Station square never was the same after the flood

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    Batman went to Casinopolis

    Scheming Minor 🏳️‍🌈
    @Velosassraptor
    Riddler's hideout is literally Sonic Adventure Casinopolis.

    I can't even... #Batman
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    Oh God, he's after the Chaos Emeralds

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    It’s wild to me that such big names in the industry couldn’t make a platform game. Average, I can understand. Unplayable mess though? That’s so crazy.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    The fact that the only good part of the game(the CGI movies) was never intended to be in the game to begin with explains a lot about their presence.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    it sounds like they tried to have Naka's people do all the vague gameplay idea stuff and fantastic concept art and then dumped it all on a contractor with the instructions "make this into a game please" and hoped for the best

    mighty no. 9 comparison unfortunately apt

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Gilius Thunderhead is a rad name

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    The thing about Balan Wonderworld is... it's not that far off from Mario Odyssey in premise. My nephew was 4-5 when he was playing that and he could clear a fair portion of the game without help. There was no good reason to simplify and dumb down the game to the extent that they apparently did.

    Give the base character a more robust skill set, give each costume 1-2 actions, a jump, and like 1 or 2 'perks' like double jumping or glide (and it's okay for costumes to share stuff as long as each has 1 unique thing), to make them more interesting. Odyssey has nowhere near 80 critters you can become, and it still feels like a crazy amount given how one-note some of them end up being. BW should've had less costumes overall, and furthermore it should have limited how many the player has access to at any one time. Either you shouldn't be able to take them with you (like Odyssey), or they could be tied to 'environments', so for example in the ice area there's a set of 3-5 you progressively unlock, but the desert has a different set of 3-5. That makes designing the environments and fights around what players will be able to do easier. This would address their concern of overwhelming the player with things to learn; the player would only need to know/remember the costumes for the current area. It also means you can have a faster, more fluid way of swapping between costumes, instead of going into an inventory screen. Like, these are pretty basic things that other games had already done better. Shit, Square-Enix's own Dewprism (Threads of Fate for us Americans) had something similar with how the shapeshifting playable character's skill worked.

    It's a shame that such good art design was wasted on such a mis-aimed, under-supported, & executive-meddled project.

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    SeolSeol Registered User regular
    gilius thunderhead: battles with an axe

    ax battler: has sword

    ???

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    Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Seol wrote: »
    gilius thunderhead: battles with an axe

    ax battler: has sword

    ???

    No, no, he fights people that carry axes

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    The big thing I keep seeing people say about balan is that it's obviously made for little kids and I dunno if i agree

    It is both super simplified but also really obtuse? I haven't watched a ton of footage but every time I HAVE watched someone play it they spendost of the time wondering what the fuck they're doing and getting lost because everything looks the same

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    It's explicitly intended for children and I don't think a failed execution changes that

    and that wha happun? makes a point that I've made elsewhere, and still strongly believe: execution aside, making the game for small children was extremely the wrong call, because you're only going to give a shit about this game if yuji naka's name means anything to you

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    SeolSeol Registered User regular
    It's explicitly intended for children and I don't think a failed execution changes that

    and that wha happun? makes a point that I've made elsewhere, and still strongly believe: execution aside, making the game for small children was extremely the wrong call, because you're only going to give a shit about this game if yuji naka's name means anything to you
    if it was an excellent and well-regarded game, that would be enough to make people give a shit about it?

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Also I have given my nephew Nintendo games and he cant play them all well but he gets the idea pretty quick. A game intended for kids should be intuitive not just a lazy idea of simple

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    balan also seems to have numerous serious performance issues which is another matter entirely

    at least the character itself looks cool I guess

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    It's explicitly intended for children and I don't think a failed execution changes that

    oh sure

    i'm just saying that for instance that Wha Happun suggests that the problem with the game is that it's made for babies so it's too easy and not engaging enough for anyone over a certain age

    and the game is so confusing and awkward that i think kids young enough to be engaged on the difficulty level wouldn't be able to figure out where to go or what to do

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    You could really do anything with the Balan concept, but from ten minutes of doodling I reckon this might have been fun:

    1. The hub area is a giant theatre / circus / castle. You have limited access to the upper areas without costumes. As you acquire new costumes, you can scale further and further up the castle (unlocking elevators and magic doors for speed upon return). Every major progression point gives you insight into Balan.
    2. It’s Megaman. There might only be 8 to 12 costumes in this game, but each one has a versatile action that you can use in many situations and puzzles, because naturally, we are being sane here and you can always jump. There’d be lots of subtle but easy to remember extras with each costume, like the fire one being immune to fire.
    3. When you complete all the levels you can reach the top of the hub world. Now you’ve got to deal with Balan’s own problem, which I’d tie into whoever the villain is. Once you’ve done that it’s onto a final zone to take on the villain, with either Balan with you, or after empowering you in some major way (Super Sonic style).
    4. Throw in actually challenging levels as a post-game thing, where you use every costume.

    Side topics:
    A. Switching costume can be done mid-jump.
    B. Villain needs to rant like Grunty from Banjo-Kazooie.
    C. Wall jumping and ledge grabs are the light and the way.
    D. Real talk are Japanese developers legally obliged to never play one game? Not even a New Super Mario Bros, for five minutes? I’ve only seen it on YouTube, but it’s like if someone heard about a platform game.

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Every time a dev gets it in their head that extreme simplicity in controls would bring in a wider audience, we get one of these horribly compromised games, and they all refuse to take notes, even from each other. So you have Kirby Air Ride only using one button on the Gamecube controller, so that your ability to speed up and use powerups are both on the same button? Kids... love Mario Kart, what the hell was the point of that? Or Metroid Other M where they pretended the Nunchuck didn't exist for extremely misguided reasons (the kind of people who are attracted to the simplicity of the Wii Remote used solo are not the kind of people who love Metroidvania games). Or Balan, where they thought jumping should be a special power only assigned to some of the costumes... in a platforming game...

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    now hold on a second

    kirby air ride is good

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