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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Guys I want a Vive


    ...and a room to use it.

    Thinking of cancelling my Oculus order for a vive, since it's gonna take forever to even get the oculus and horrible things keep coming to light, like the nightmare EULA and the always-on connection to facebook.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    OnTheLastCastle I have "Right Hand Man" literally stuck inside my brain

    Ultimately, this is your fault

    Expect consequences

    https://play.spotify.com/track/5TlFDJhgm3blVo455b66Re

    ?

    What the hell is spotify

    Also I'm gonna go ahead and say no :p

    Hamilton soundtrack!

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Guys I want a Vive


    ...and a room to use it.

    Thinking of cancelling my Oculus order for a vive, since it's gonna take forever to even get the oculus and horrible things keep coming to light, like the nightmare EULA and the always-on connection to facebook.

    Did you see Giant Bombs Vive show today?

    Goddamn Job Simulator and The Lab just look so cool!

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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Guys I want a Vive


    ...and a room to use it.

    Thinking of cancelling my Oculus order for a vive, since it's gonna take forever to even get the oculus and horrible things keep coming to light, like the nightmare EULA and the always-on connection to facebook.

    I know that this first generation will matter a ton both in terms of just plain hardware capabilities and in terms of getting a brand burned into consumer minds, but facebook seems like it's really fucking up the latter, which can doom a product in a competitive, completely unknown market right off the bat

    This is the new console wars motherfuckers, GIVE TO THEM NOTHING

    TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING

    Eddy on
    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Tailon has a weird derp face and a weak chin

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Eddy wrote: »
    Guys I want a Vive


    ...and a room to use it.

    Thinking of cancelling my Oculus order for a vive, since it's gonna take forever to even get the oculus and horrible things keep coming to light, like the nightmare EULA and the always-on connection to facebook.

    I know that this first generation will matter a ton both in terms of just plain hardware capabilities and in terms of getting a brand burned into consumer minds, but facebook seems like it's really fucking up the latter, which can doom a product in a competitive, completely unknown market right off the bat

    Yeah, unfavorable privacy terms in the mass market is fine. People don't, as a rule, care at all. But nerds like me who buy dumb shit make up basically the whole VR market at the moment and we get p salty about it. It's crazy too. All facebook had to do was nothing! Just do literally nothing, supply a little money, cultivate, and harvest later. But they got thirsty.

    Donkey Kong on
    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    Mmmm ya baby there we go got som Poe Dameron yaa

    Switch FC code:SW-2130-4285-0059

    Arch,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Mmmm ya baby there we go got som Poe Dameron yaa

    ~Bites lip provocatively~

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Mmmm ya baby there we go got som Poe Dameron yaa

    pffft asshole all leaving other protagonists to die
    ain't no hero to me

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Apple is sitting out the whole VR thing. They don't make dorky headsets. They're (allegedly) entering the AR space though.

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    All the energy that could be going into VR at Apple is being directed at gimmicky shit like the watch. Probably.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Apple is sitting out the whole VR thing. They don't make dorky headsets. They're (allegedly) entering the AR space though.

    Classic apple gameplan

    They're gonna saunter in a year or so from now with like, holograms and shit and then they'll just walk straight over to the US Mint

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Ugh the Vive is $1200 CDN goddamn and I need a new processor Im just under the minimum

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Guys I want a Vive


    ...and a room to use it.

    Thinking of cancelling my Oculus order for a vive, since it's gonna take forever to even get the oculus and horrible things keep coming to light, like the nightmare EULA and the always-on connection to facebook.

    I know that this first generation will matter a ton both in terms of just plain hardware capabilities and in terms of getting a brand burned into consumer minds, but facebook seems like it's really fucking up the latter, which can doom a product in a competitive, completely unknown market right off the bat

    Yeah, unfavorable privacy terms in the mass market is fine. People don't, as a rule, care at all. But nerds like me who buy dumb shit make up basically the whole VR market at the moment and we get p salty about it. It's crazy too. All facebook had to do was nothing! Just do literally nothing, supply a little money, cultivate, and harvest later. But they got thirsty.

    The Oculus TOS aren't much different than Steam's other then Steam saying you can rescind their use of your stuff if you can prove they violated theagreement, but both TOS lay claim to all things uploaded.

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    dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    All the energy that could be going into VR at Apple is being directed at gimmicky shit like the watch. Probably.

    nah apple will jump in at about 2nd or 3rd generation and implement some bit of it in a novel way and claim they invented that shit all along

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Alt answer: they're waiting for everyone else to finish theirs so they can steal the tech, slap on some white plastic and rounded corners, and market it to the Cult of the Turtleneck.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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    RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    I am going to make a gimmick vr game thing called

    Gnome Man's Guy

    Or possible Gnome Man's Sky

    Do not steal

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

    In terms of your PC, yes, I mean in terms of how much difficulty is there in programming a game to work with both the Vive and the Rift? I was under the assumption it's more like different monitors than it is like different game consoles.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    I am going to make a gimmick vr game thing called

    Gnome Man's Guy

    Or possible Gnome Man's Sky

    Do not steal

    Drag Enrage

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Alt answer: they're waiting for everyone else to finish theirs so they can steal the tech, slap on some white plastic and rounded corners, and market it to the Cult of the Turtleneck.

    White plastic and rounded corners? What is this, 2006?

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    sigh

    it's either vr

    or a 4k monitor

    i don't think I can do both unless I spread them way out

    VR is immersion

    4k is just another screen

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    PSN/XBL: Zampanov -- Steam: Zampanov
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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Alt answer: they're waiting for everyone else to finish theirs so they can steal the tech, slap on some white plastic and rounded corners, and market it to the Cult of the Turtleneck.

    White plastic and rounded corners? What is this, 2006?

    That's it I'm calling your boss you're going back to China.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Also nerds will be real mad about Apple VR and call it stupid and pointless and say it contributes in no way to the advancement of technology.

    Two years later every headset of the market is a clone of Apple's.

    Donkey Kong on
    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Zampanov wrote: »
    sigh

    it's either vr

    or a 4k monitor

    i don't think I can do both unless I spread them way out

    VR is immersion

    4k is just another screen

    To be fair, 4k is legit as fuck if you're actually using it for, like, work.

    For gaming though, get VR yeah.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

    In terms of your PC, yes, I mean in terms of how much difficulty is there in programming a game to work with both the Vive and the Rift? I was under the assumption it's more like different monitors than it is like different game consoles.

    No, the Vive uses the Steam VR SDK and the Rift uses Oculus' SDK. So it's like the bad old days when a developer would support Sound Blaster and Roland individually. Not all supported both.

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

    In terms of your PC, yes, I mean in terms of how much difficulty is there in programming a game to work with both the Vive and the Rift? I was under the assumption it's more like different monitors than it is like different game consoles.

    No, the Vive uses the Steam VR SDK and the Rift uses Oculus' SDK. So it's like the bad old days when a developer would support Sound Blaster and Roland individually. Not all supported both.

    There are already middleware things that target both though, so they can't be all that different.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

    In terms of your PC, yes, I mean in terms of how much difficulty is there in programming a game to work with both the Vive and the Rift? I was under the assumption it's more like different monitors than it is like different game consoles.

    that I don't know. Some of the games I am seeing work for either and some say they're programmed specifically for Vive, but I am not sure that means they're not going to work for Oculus.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

    In terms of your PC, yes, I mean in terms of how much difficulty is there in programming a game to work with both the Vive and the Rift? I was under the assumption it's more like different monitors than it is like different game consoles.

    No, the Vive uses the Steam VR SDK and the Rift uses Oculus' SDK. So it's like the bad old days when a developer would support Sound Blaster and Roland individually. Not all supported both.

    I wish TheSonicRetard was still here hes working with both (Im think) so he would have good insight here.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    I didn't realize how many VR products there are out there

    I wonder if it'll winnow out to 2(.5) like classic console wars or turn into a phone ecosystem

    actually where's apple's VR

    I would see it going the phone route: how platform specific do VR games actually have to be?

    the system requirements for vr are very, very high from what I recall

    In terms of your PC, yes, I mean in terms of how much difficulty is there in programming a game to work with both the Vive and the Rift? I was under the assumption it's more like different monitors than it is like different game consoles.

    No, the Vive uses the Steam VR SDK and the Rift uses Oculus' SDK. So it's like the bad old days when a developer would support Sound Blaster and Roland individually. Not all supported both.

    There are already middleware things that target both though, so they can't be all that different.

    Valve built a wrapper in Steam VR for the Rift SDK, but it only works one way and right now the Rift has no motion controls, so support will be spotty.

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    RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    Zampanov wrote: »
    sigh

    it's either vr

    or a 4k monitor

    i don't think I can do both unless I spread them way out

    VR is immersion

    4k is just another screen

    that's nice, but am I going to be watching youtube in VR or playing my other non-vr games that I have right now in vr? I somehow get the feeling that I won't, but I don't know for sure. These new vr specific games will be poop from a butt for a while.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Mmmm ya baby there we go got som Poe Dameron yaa

    you called

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Can you just display 2d stuff in a ver headset so it is just all you are seeing?

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    @ronya I finished reading that essay.

    Yasmin Nair mad.

    I made a game! Hotline Maui. Requires mouse and keyboard.
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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Zampanov wrote: »
    sigh

    it's either vr

    or a 4k monitor

    i don't think I can do both unless I spread them way out

    VR is immersion

    4k is just another screen

    that's nice, but am I going to be watching youtube in VR or playing my other non-vr games that I have right now in vr? I somehow get the feeling that I won't, but I don't know for sure. These new vr specific games will be poop from a butt for a while.

    Equally, even the best cards struggle to run games acceptably at 4K and Windows is shitbutt at DPI scaling, so it's nonstop headaches running everyday apps.

    I have a 4K monitor at work and I totally gave up and just told windows it's a 1080p monitor and look at everything just a little blurry.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Zampanov wrote: »
    sigh

    it's either vr

    or a 4k monitor

    i don't think I can do both unless I spread them way out

    VR is immersion

    4k is just another screen

    that's nice, but am I going to be watching youtube in VR or playing my other non-vr games that I have right now in vr? I somehow get the feeling that I won't, but I don't know for sure. These new vr specific games will be poop from a butt for a while.

    You can through vr movie players or virtual desktop, but you're probably better off with a 4k tv in that case.

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    RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    Can you just display 2d stuff in a ver headset so it is just all you are seeing?

    I think you can project a 3d desktop, but that'll just be at 2k resolution.

    siiigh

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    I will say that 4k gaming is just a bit too far for current gen video cards.

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