So basically the first season served as a prequel to the start of the comic, with modifications.
I'm not sure how well it all worked. But I was entertained.
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I guess the explosion lacked enough detail that they could bring back a couple of the characters if they really needed to (though probably not Odin or the couple that was watching the methane pool).
So basically the first season served as a prequel to the start of the comic, with modifications.
I'm not sure how well it all worked. But I was entertained.
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We're basically at a revamped version of the end of issue #1.
Granted, this is a very heavy remix, and I dig that about it because I don't actually want to know exactly what's coming, but it's still ballsy as hell to spend 10 episodes building up a town and it's characters like that before presumably turing into a road-trip format in Season Two.
I'm somewhat disappointed because several of the people they spent time building up were legit interesting, and I wanted to see where their arcs went. So in a way, this feels like a troll.
On the other hand, it was a fucking epic troll.
I think the lack of acknowledgement by Jesse of what just happened, or his seeming lack of awareness that it even did, was kind of muddled.
So in the beginning, Jesse uses the Voice and it goes seriously south. But he doesn't know this yet. Okay, cool, the show is illustrating the negative consequences of this kind of lazy shortcut activism, and Jesse is well meaning but ignorant.
Then Jesse sees what happens to Eugene, and keeps on doing this shit. Alright, the show is still showing the negative consequences, and Jesse is fully aware and just doesn't care. This shows Jesse as a borderline villain, blinded by hubris.
So now, the show illustrates that pretty much everyone in the town is a piece of shit. Emily is a murderer, the sheriff tortures Cassidy, Quincannon is Quincannon, just fuck the whole place. I guess? And Jesse's actions lead to such depression and abrogation of responsibility that the town literally explodes. And Jesse doesn't react at all.
So... what? Did the town deserve its fate? Is it a tragedy that we should be mourning? Did Jesse do something good or something bad? Does the show even have an opinion on this? Did it even occur to the writers that they should?
It bugs me that there's so much going on and I can't tell if the show is even trying to have a throughline. Or, fuck, an in-the-vicinity-of line.
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To be fair they already covered a bunch of stuff that comes later in the comics
Such as (comic spoilers)
The reveal that God is missing. A big chunk of book 8. The Saint of Killers' backstory.
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Ahahahahahaha
That was great. I legit spent the entire season not sure how I felt about it.
But that last episode has me ALL fucking IN for season two. That was p damn funny. Great set-up.
I love the story in Preacher. And I like Jesse, Tulip, Eugene and Cassidy. The problem is that I have no emotional connection to anyone else on the show.
To be fair, I guess that's no longer a problem.
But I feel like I was supposed to care that virtually everyone in the town just blew up, and I really didn't. It was an interesting moment, and one that was competently foreshadowed and everything, but I felt nothing.
I will happily continue to watch this show just because it's a hoot seeing what crazy fucking thing is going to happen next, but I wish they could stick some pathos in there.
I honestly don't think you were? It felt like you were supposed to laugh. I know I did. And it's Seth Rogan so playing something like that for laughs is kinda right up his alley.
Man, I really enjoyed this show, I hope they get to keep doing this for a long time if it can maintain this level of quality.
I'm trying to decide which is my favorite part of the season, and I'm down to a tossup between the last 10 minutes of this episode and the first 10 minutes of episode 5 (the 6th episode, stupid episode 0 pilot) with the 3 on 1 fight against the lady angel.
Best part of the season was the angel fight by a wide margin.
The scene when Eugene disappeared was second.
This show has some amazing individual scenes, and the general visual style is pretty great. It's capable of intermittent greatness but occasionally goes a bit daft, like a Vince Gilligan series got kicked in the head by a mule.
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I'm somewhat disappointed because several of the people they spent time building up were legit interesting, and I wanted to see where their arcs went. So in a way, this feels like a troll.
On the other hand, it was a fucking epic troll.
I think the lack of acknowledgement by Jesse of what just happened, or his seeming lack of awareness that it even did, was kind of muddled.
So in the beginning, Jesse uses the Voice and it goes seriously south. But he doesn't know this yet. Okay, cool, the show is illustrating the negative consequences of this kind of lazy shortcut activism, and Jesse is well meaning but ignorant.
Then Jesse sees what happens to Eugene, and keeps on doing this shit. Alright, the show is still showing the negative consequences, and Jesse is fully aware and just doesn't care. This shows Jesse as a borderline villain, blinded by hubris.
So now, the show illustrates that pretty much everyone in the town is a piece of shit. Emily is a murderer, the sheriff tortures Cassidy, Quincannon is Quincannon, just fuck the whole place. I guess? And Jesse's actions lead to such depression and abrogation of responsibility that the town literally explodes. And Jesse doesn't react at all.
So... what? Did the town deserve its fate? Is it a tragedy that we should be mourning? Did Jesse do something good or something bad? Does the show even have an opinion on this? Did it even occur to the writers that they should?
It bugs me that there's so much going on and I can't tell if the show is even trying to have a throughline. Or, fuck, an in-the-vicinity-of line.
Jesse, Cassidy, and Tulip are villains. I don't understand why anyone would resist this idea - the show's protagonists are bad guys. Kidnappers, bank robbers, bar fighters, murderers, dog murderers. I've got this same argument going in the Walking Dead and Better Call Saul threads.
I don't believe Jesse knows the town blew up. He walked out the diner door and missed the news report by seconds.
I also laughed at the forbidden-love-suicide-pact the Savage and the Prairie Dog mascots had going. High school football is serious business.
It's definitely not as simple as "the protagonists are villains" in any of those shows.
Jesse's motivation through most of the show has been a desire to fulfill a promise he made to his dad and help the people of his town by bringing them to God. His methods have certainly been suboptimal, but when he realized this he tried a different strategy. Which also had... some unfortunate side effects, but that's not because Jesse is a bad guy.
He is a guy torn by the competing effects of good and evil. As befits the vessel of the offspring of a demon and an angel.
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There were no good effects as everything he did for the town backfired. He wants to be seen as a good and effective preacher to the point where he's torturing pedophiles and telling angels they can't have the secret love child that wandered off back. He's committed to the role of preacher, I agree, and Tulip called him out on it being at odds with his nature at least once.
In the last 5 minutes of the finale, a fed up Jesse vows to find and kick the Almighty's ass. 100% bad guy talk.
Well, I know in Sual's/Breaking Bad's case at some point they did become villains even if they didn't want to admit it or regretted it. But that doesn't really apply to Jesse and Co yet. They haven't had enough time to hang themselves and have yet to do anything over the line it seems. Just dancing around it.
I'm going to miss Quincannon. Emily got a raw deal. I hope they both survived, but if only one, give me Quincannon.
Everyone kind of flipped out over God being missing, but 1)they didn't say dead 2)Angels! Heaven! Even if they were goober Angels.
But then the town was pretty broken, I suppose.
There were no good effects as everything he did for the town backfired. He wants to be seen as a good and effective preacher to the point where he's torturing pedophiles and telling angels they can't have the secret love child that wandered off back. He's committed to the role of preacher, I agree, and Tulip called him out on it being at odds with his nature at least once.
In the last 5 minutes of the finale, a fed up Jesse vows to find and kick the Almighty's ass. 100% bad guy talk.
You're omitting a vital piece of that to make your point.
Jesse says that if God needs their help, they'll help. It's only if they find him and it turns out God has just been fucking around and letting everything go to shit, then they're going to kick his ass.
Best part of the season was the angel fight by a wide margin.
Yeah, I'll probably give you that, I think the last part of the finale just stuck out from being fresher in my mind. That big angel fight was just amazing though.
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Ok, the finale made the last few episodes worth it.
There were no good effects as everything he did for the town backfired. He wants to be seen as a good and effective preacher to the point where he's torturing pedophiles and telling angels they can't have the secret love child that wandered off back. He's committed to the role of preacher, I agree, and Tulip called him out on it being at odds with his nature at least once.
In the last 5 minutes of the finale, a fed up Jesse vows to find and kick the Almighty's ass. 100% bad guy talk.
You're omitting a vital piece of that to make your point.
Jesse says that if God needs their help, they'll help. It's only if they find him and it turns out God has just been fucking around and letting everything go to shit, then they're going to kick his ass.
Best part of the season was the angel fight by a wide margin.
Yeah, I'll probably give you that, I think the last part of the finale just stuck out from being fresher in my mind. That big angel fight was just amazing though.
From a technical standpoint, I think the scene of the fallout from the church chat was fantastic. The shots of all the characters, the contrast between how they handled it... if they gave Emmys for individual scenes, it would be in the running. It was just pitch perfect.
It's scenes like that which will keep me coming back, even if the show sometimes flubs character beats or tone or theme. When the show hits that groove, it's fucking magical.
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His pants were off ... but the six girls brought a machete ... either he did something days earlier and the girls were getting revenge by cutting off his wiener or they thought he was going to do something so they cut off off his wiener pre-emptively.
His pants were off ... but the six girls brought a machete ... either he did something days earlier and the girls were getting revenge by cutting off his wiener or they thought he was going to do something so they cut off off his wiener pre-emptively.
Looked more like a broom handle to me.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I'm not sure if we were meant to take away anything more specific than "bad guy was done in by his ostensible victims."
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His pants were off ... but the six girls brought a machete ... either he did something days earlier and the girls were getting revenge by cutting off his wiener or they thought he was going to do something so they cut off off his wiener pre-emptively.
His pants were off ... but the six girls brought a machete ... either he did something days earlier and the girls were getting revenge by cutting off his wiener or they thought he was going to do something so they cut off off his wiener pre-emptively.
The finale and few preceding episodes definitely made up for a very rickety start. I'm totally on board, now.
Though it does feel like the "super-sized episode" was about 20 minutes of extra commercials book-ending that series of effects shots and music catalog purchases. Well paid for, but still, damn.
The finale and few preceding episodes definitely made up for a very rickety start. I'm totally on board, now.
Though it does feel like the "super-sized episode" was about 20 minutes of extra commercials book-ending that series of effects shots and music catalog purchases. Well paid for, but still, damn.
That's amc being assholes. Like I stopped watching walking dead on network and just watched it on prime because their commercial breaks are freaking awful.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Best part of the season was the angel fight by a wide margin.
The scene when Eugene disappeared was second.
This show has some amazing individual scenes, and the general visual style is pretty great. It's capable of intermittent greatness but occasionally goes a bit daft, like a Vince Gilligan series got kicked in the head by a mule.
which honestly is kind of how the comic was just in a different, more Ennis-y way
I really liked the finale, and I'm really excited to get this show on the road so to speak
I don't think you're supposed to be emotionally moved. I think you walk away with
God is absent, literally everything about Texas is horrible, every person is responsible for determining their own plan. And then we have what seemed to be the necessary prologue to explain a road trip consisting of a vampire, an assassin, and a warrior super hero preacher.
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I'm not sure how well it all worked. But I was entertained.
Comic Spoilers:
Granted, this is a very heavy remix, and I dig that about it because I don't actually want to know exactly what's coming, but it's still ballsy as hell to spend 10 episodes building up a town and it's characters like that before presumably turing into a road-trip format in Season Two.
Heh.
Also I was waiting for Carlos
but how?
He had a gun and a crowbar...
(I mean, he'd also been in that trunk for who knows how long, that probably isn't good for mobility right after you get out)
On the other hand, it was a fucking epic troll.
So in the beginning, Jesse uses the Voice and it goes seriously south. But he doesn't know this yet. Okay, cool, the show is illustrating the negative consequences of this kind of lazy shortcut activism, and Jesse is well meaning but ignorant.
Then Jesse sees what happens to Eugene, and keeps on doing this shit. Alright, the show is still showing the negative consequences, and Jesse is fully aware and just doesn't care. This shows Jesse as a borderline villain, blinded by hubris.
So now, the show illustrates that pretty much everyone in the town is a piece of shit. Emily is a murderer, the sheriff tortures Cassidy, Quincannon is Quincannon, just fuck the whole place. I guess? And Jesse's actions lead to such depression and abrogation of responsibility that the town literally explodes. And Jesse doesn't react at all.
So... what? Did the town deserve its fate? Is it a tragedy that we should be mourning? Did Jesse do something good or something bad? Does the show even have an opinion on this? Did it even occur to the writers that they should?
It bugs me that there's so much going on and I can't tell if the show is even trying to have a throughline. Or, fuck, an in-the-vicinity-of line.
Such as (comic spoilers)
Next up: Road Trip!
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That was great. I legit spent the entire season not sure how I felt about it.
But that last episode has me ALL fucking IN for season two. That was p damn funny. Great set-up.
I'm trying to decide which is my favorite part of the season, and I'm down to a tossup between the last 10 minutes of this episode and the first 10 minutes of episode 5 (the 6th episode, stupid episode 0 pilot) with the 3 on 1 fight against the lady angel.
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The scene when Eugene disappeared was second.
This show has some amazing individual scenes, and the general visual style is pretty great. It's capable of intermittent greatness but occasionally goes a bit daft, like a Vince Gilligan series got kicked in the head by a mule.
Jesse, Cassidy, and Tulip are villains. I don't understand why anyone would resist this idea - the show's protagonists are bad guys. Kidnappers, bank robbers, bar fighters, murderers, dog murderers. I've got this same argument going in the Walking Dead and Better Call Saul threads.
Jesse's motivation through most of the show has been a desire to fulfill a promise he made to his dad and help the people of his town by bringing them to God. His methods have certainly been suboptimal, but when he realized this he tried a different strategy. Which also had... some unfortunate side effects, but that's not because Jesse is a bad guy.
He is a guy torn by the competing effects of good and evil. As befits the vessel of the offspring of a demon and an angel.
Everyone kind of flipped out over God being missing, but 1)they didn't say dead 2)Angels! Heaven! Even if they were goober Angels.
But then the town was pretty broken, I suppose.
You're omitting a vital piece of that to make your point.
Which doesn't at all scream bad guy to me.
Yeah, I'll probably give you that, I think the last part of the finale just stuck out from being fresher in my mind. That big angel fight was just amazing though.
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From a technical standpoint, I think the scene of the fallout from the church chat was fantastic. The shots of all the characters, the contrast between how they handled it... if they gave Emmys for individual scenes, it would be in the running. It was just pitch perfect.
It's scenes like that which will keep me coming back, even if the show sometimes flubs character beats or tone or theme. When the show hits that groove, it's fucking magical.
I take it from his Jeffrey Dahmer ending by a bunch of young girls he did more than fantasize.
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I wasn't clear on what happened.
Looked more like a broom handle to me.
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I'm not sure which would be worse.
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There was a blade.
A town of horrific assholes getting blown up by shit, just poetic justice.
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Though it does feel like the "super-sized episode" was about 20 minutes of extra commercials book-ending that series of effects shots and music catalog purchases. Well paid for, but still, damn.
That's amc being assholes. Like I stopped watching walking dead on network and just watched it on prime because their commercial breaks are freaking awful.
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which honestly is kind of how the comic was just in a different, more Ennis-y way
I really liked the finale, and I'm really excited to get this show on the road so to speak
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I don't think you're supposed to be emotionally moved. I think you walk away with
It was perfect.