Betsy would impale someone's mind with her psychic sword, eviscerating their very ego & persona, and I would be like, 'That is exactly how my own life has played out,'
Then she would go 1 v 8 with armed mercs and cut them all down, emerging unscathed from the melee, with her expertly crafted katana, and I would be like, 'How does this comic know so much about me???'
As a poshy English girl trapped in someone else's body who secretly wants to be a psychic ninja,
You've argued that the action in-of-itself is wrong and that the action is wrong because of how it relates to the litigation and perceptions that are applied to it.
Yes? Something can be wrong in more than one way.
I don't agree
the ethics of an action and the legality of it is, at best, tangents
How so?
nothing is wrong because it is illegal
murder is wrong
murder also happens to be illegal, but that means nothing for the ethics of it. It would be exactly as wrong were it legal.
blasphemy was illegal up until last year, which does not make it in any way wrong
I'm not saying it's wrong because it's illegal, that wasn't my argument, and it's technically not illegal to cheat. This is separate from the ethics argument for being a dick, it's the argument that cheating will get you in serious trouble financially and legally indirecting with getting a divorce. Because the wronged party will have evidence to take you to the cleaners legally, and may even taint your reputation. This can happen at a lower level outside marriage.
that just makes it a bad idea, not wronger
but since the perspective in the debate was the person who the cheater sleeps with, there's a somewhat interesting train of thought to be had about the ethics of enabling bad ideas (which in this case would be parallel to the ethically wrong thing you are enabling)
Exactly. It's just another reason not to do it, the meat of my argument was about ethics.
not a given that's it's a reason not to sleep with someone in a relationship
I mean, up to a point people can take full responsibility for their own bad ideas
No, it's not a given - but it should make you think twice doing it with a married person. That's one it's one reason among many not to do it.
What makes you think I'm not for people taking responsibility for their actions with cheating?
if you happen to be somewhere where it's a factor. Rather specific cirumstances ::pop:
but I think you misunderstood me: I said full responsibility, as in, nobody else takes any.
Let's leave out cheating; somebody goes "if I do X with you, somebody would get to run off with most of my money" then my view on that is like, well, run a quick pros and cons list in your head or whatever, or don't, it's fully your choice to make
if you leave in cheating, that's more or less my view on "enabling cheating": it's fully the cheater's choice to make, and fully their responsibility
you, the person who the cheater sleeps with, hold no responsibility for the fact that they chose to cheat.
You are responsible for your actions, which were fucking somebody's SO. Which I don't think is cool.
But even though it takes two to tango and you made it possible for the cheater to cheat, you're not the one who chose to cheat.
It's still a dick move if you know about it and do it anyway - not as bad as the cheater, of course. If you didn't know you got screwed more than once, and may get backlash from it from the other partner and god help you if it gets into legal or press bullshit. That's not on the person who isn't the cheater doing a bad thing, it's making an unintended bad choice and unfortunately getting roped into bullshit because you chose to sleep with the wrong person.
Betsy would impale someone's mind with her psychic sword, eviscerating their very ego & persona, and I would be like, 'That is exactly how my own life has played out,'
Then she would go 1 v 8 with armed mercs and cut them all down, emerging unscathed from the melee, with her expertly crafted katana, and I would be like, 'How does this comic know so much about me???'
As a poshy English girl trapped in someone else's body who secretly wants to be a psychic ninja,
Was that actually part of her backstory, being trapped in a body that wasn't hers? I thought the English accent just meant she was from Hong Kong or whatever.
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Betsy would impale someone's mind with her psychic sword, eviscerating their very ego & persona, and I would be like, 'That is exactly how my own life has played out,'
Then she would go 1 v 8 with armed mercs and cut them all down, emerging unscathed from the melee, with her expertly crafted katana, and I would be like, 'How does this comic know so much about me???'
As a poshy English girl trapped in someone else's body who secretly wants to be a psychic ninja,
Was that actually part of her backstory, being trapped in a body that wasn't hers? I thought the English accent just meant she was from Hong Kong or whatever.
<-- fake comic geek
Uh yeah!
She's stuck in the body of Revanche after weird Mojo stuff
fuck gendered marketing
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Betsy would impale someone's mind with her psychic sword, eviscerating their very ego & persona, and I would be like, 'That is exactly how my own life has played out,'
Then she would go 1 v 8 with armed mercs and cut them all down, emerging unscathed from the melee, with her expertly crafted katana, and I would be like, 'How does this comic know so much about me???'
As a poshy English girl trapped in someone else's body who secretly wants to be a psychic ninja,
Was that actually part of her backstory, being trapped in a body that wasn't hers? I thought the English accent just meant she was from Hong Kong or whatever.
<-- fake comic geek
Betsy was initially a supporting character in the adventures of her twin brother, Captain Britain, even briefly substituting for him in the role, before becoming the mutant superheroine and X-Men member Psylocke in 1986. Originally presented as a precognitive in the pages of Captain Britain and then as a telepath, the character eventually had her mind placed in the body of a Japanese female ninja known as Kwannon, gaining many of Kwannon's martial arts skills and elements of her personality. Psylocke's codename, coined by the X-Men villains Mojo and Spiral, debuted during her introduction to the X-Men stories post-Captain Britain.[2] Later, Psylocke acquired the power of telekinesis.
You've argued that the action in-of-itself is wrong and that the action is wrong because of how it relates to the litigation and perceptions that are applied to it.
Yes? Something can be wrong in more than one way.
I don't agree
the ethics of an action and the legality of it is, at best, tangents
How so?
nothing is wrong because it is illegal
murder is wrong
murder also happens to be illegal, but that means nothing for the ethics of it. It would be exactly as wrong were it legal.
blasphemy was illegal up until last year, which does not make it in any way wrong
I'm not saying it's wrong because it's illegal, that wasn't my argument, and it's technically not illegal to cheat. This is separate from the ethics argument for being a dick, it's the argument that cheating will get you in serious trouble financially and legally indirecting with getting a divorce. Because the wronged party will have evidence to take you to the cleaners legally, and may even taint your reputation. This can happen at a lower level outside marriage.
that just makes it a bad idea, not wronger
but since the perspective in the debate was the person who the cheater sleeps with, there's a somewhat interesting train of thought to be had about the ethics of enabling bad ideas (which in this case would be parallel to the ethically wrong thing you are enabling)
Exactly. It's just another reason not to do it, the meat of my argument was about ethics.
not a given that's it's a reason not to sleep with someone in a relationship
I mean, up to a point people can take full responsibility for their own bad ideas
No, it's not a given - but it should make you think twice doing it with a married person. That's one it's one reason among many not to do it.
What makes you think I'm not for people taking responsibility for their actions with cheating?
if you happen to be somewhere where it's a factor. Rather specific cirumstances ::pop:
but I think you misunderstood me: I said full responsibility, as in, nobody else takes any.
Let's leave out cheating; somebody goes "if I do X with you, somebody would get to run off with most of my money" then my view on that is like, well, run a quick pros and cons list in your head or whatever, or don't, it's fully your choice to make
if you leave in cheating, that's more or less my view on "enabling cheating": it's fully the cheater's choice to make, and fully their responsibility
you, the person who the cheater sleeps with, hold no responsibility for the fact that they chose to cheat.
You are responsible for your actions, which were fucking somebody's SO. Which I don't think is cool.
But even though it takes two to tango and you made it possible for the cheater to cheat, you're not the one who chose to cheat.
It's still a dick move if you know about it and do it anyway - not as bad as the cheater, of course. If you didn't know you got screwed more than once, and may get backlash from it from the other partner and god help you if it gets into legal or press bullshit. That's not on the person who isn't the cheater doing a bad thing, it's making an unintended bad choice and unfortunately getting roped into bullshit because you chose to sleep with the wrong person.
yeah but we're talking about the specific reasons why it is bad
which in my view is that it is solely because it's a serious breach of the Don't Be A Dick To A Stranger rule
you're not betraying anyone's trust like the cheater, but you still kind of a dick
since we are in agreement I will argue something with more tenuous logic
it'll take a bit to get there so bear with me
I appreciate a compliment to me about my girl more than a compliment about me. Because about me it's like yeah sure I guess. I'm me anyway. But I'm psyched about her so when somebody else is like she is really nice I'm like I know right?! It's like somebody saying that they like a movie that's your favourite.
And, taken to an extreme: while a solid case can be made that it is absolutely not healthy to seek validation through, and derive your self worth from, the perceptions of others of your conquests, I will argue here that it may also simply be empiricism. Your theory of your self worth is strengthened by supporting evidence.
So therefore, friends, I argue that sleeping with someone's wife is among the highest compliments you can give a man
furthermore I would say that when that dude smashed my car with a golf club and shouted until the police came about how I'm a fucking asshole, it was an appalling display of ingratitude. Totally unappreciative of my explanation of how he should instead thank me for my compliment, too.
shame there wasn't a debate club in school I really enjoy arguing for terribly wrong things.
at the course for elected representative in the army, after all the dull HSE and ombudsmann stuff, I had so much fun when we practiced debate and arguments with our positions handed to us, because the position I got handed to argue was "Yes To Barracks Wank Rooms"
shame there wasn't a debate club in school I really enjoy arguing for terribly wrong things.
at the course for elected representative in the army, after all the dull HSE and ombudsmann stuff, I had so much fun when we practiced debate and arguments with our positions handed to us, because the position I got handed to argue was "Yes To Barracks Wank Rooms"
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Honestly that Quicksilver scene alone is worth the price of admission for an otherwise kind of mediocre DoFP, so I'll presume the same is true for Apocalypse.
Yeah, the surrounding bits are much worse than DoFP.
Which I thought was ok, but sadly had pacing issues and didn't do the natural thing at particular parts.
All my concerns are turned up to 11 for Apocalypse
I don't remember specifically my arguments but I remember being really proud of deflecting the best counterargument - who the fuck wants to clean that room? - not just with the obvious, safe choice ("someone already has to clean the toilets") but instead proposing a system wherein we would track the use of the wanking room and using this information to split cleaning responsibilities equally and fairly
if there had been a vote, I would not have won, of course. But it was still a victory.
I got to lean back, grin, bask in the moments of silence afterwards where nobody had anything to say because they were all thinking "fucking seriously?" and just thoroughly enjoy not only making a solid case for us having a designated room where we would all go to have a wank, but also that we should keep track of how long and how often each of us wank.
I think scientology got started for much the same reasons, but he got way too carried away when people actually started buying his bullshit-for-bullshit's sake
I kinda want to see X-Men Apocalypse but seeing all these reviews that say it isn't great, probably gonna skip it. Don't feel like contributing to making a meh movie a smash hit because it has superheroes in it.
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Mummy brown was originally made in the 16th and 17th centuries from white pitch, myrrh, and the ground-up remains of Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.[2] As it had good transparency, it could be used for glazes, shadows, flesh tones and shading.[3] However, in addition to its tendency to crack, it was extremely variable in its composition and quality, and since it contained ammonia and particles of fat, was likely to affect other colours with which it was used.[4] It fell from popularity during the 19th century when its composition became more generally known to artists.[5] The Pre-Raphaelite artist Edward Burne-Jones was reported to have ceremonially buried his tube of Mummy Brown in his garden when he discovered its true origins.[3]
By 1915, one London colourman claimed that he could satisfy the demands of his customers for twenty years from one Egyptian mummy. Mummy Brown eventually ceased being produced in its traditional form later in the 20th century when the supply of available mummies was exhausted
Mummy brown was originally made in the 16th and 17th centuries from white pitch, myrrh, and the ground-up remains of Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.[2] As it had good transparency, it could be used for glazes, shadows, flesh tones and shading.[3] However, in addition to its tendency to crack, it was extremely variable in its composition and quality, and since it contained ammonia and particles of fat, was likely to affect other colours with which it was used.[4] It fell from popularity during the 19th century when its composition became more generally known to artists.[5] The Pre-Raphaelite artist Edward Burne-Jones was reported to have ceremonially buried his tube of Mummy Brown in his garden when he discovered its true origins.[3]
By 1915, one London colourman claimed that he could satisfy the demands of his customers for twenty years from one Egyptian mummy. Mummy Brown eventually ceased being produced in its traditional form later in the 20th century when the supply of available mummies was exhausted
Man, that may be the purest form of old-timey "we don't give a fuck about your culture" I've ever seen.
Mummy brown was originally made in the 16th and 17th centuries from white pitch, myrrh, and the ground-up remains of Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.[2] As it had good transparency, it could be used for glazes, shadows, flesh tones and shading.[3] However, in addition to its tendency to crack, it was extremely variable in its composition and quality, and since it contained ammonia and particles of fat, was likely to affect other colours with which it was used.[4] It fell from popularity during the 19th century when its composition became more generally known to artists.[5] The Pre-Raphaelite artist Edward Burne-Jones was reported to have ceremonially buried his tube of Mummy Brown in his garden when he discovered its true origins.[3]
By 1915, one London colourman claimed that he could satisfy the demands of his customers for twenty years from one Egyptian mummy. Mummy Brown eventually ceased being produced in its traditional form later in the 20th century when the supply of available mummies was exhausted
Man, that may be the purest form of old-timey "we don't give a fuck about your culture" I've ever seen.
We also burned Mummy remains as fuel sometimes.
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Betsy would impale someone's mind with her psychic sword, eviscerating their very ego & persona, and I would be like, 'That is exactly how my own life has played out,'
Then she would go 1 v 8 with armed mercs and cut them all down, emerging unscathed from the melee, with her expertly crafted katana, and I would be like, 'How does this comic know so much about me???'
As a poshy English girl trapped in someone else's body who secretly wants to be a psychic ninja,
I don't know that this is a secret.
Certainly not any more.
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Mummy brown was originally made in the 16th and 17th centuries from white pitch, myrrh, and the ground-up remains of Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.[2] As it had good transparency, it could be used for glazes, shadows, flesh tones and shading.[3] However, in addition to its tendency to crack, it was extremely variable in its composition and quality, and since it contained ammonia and particles of fat, was likely to affect other colours with which it was used.[4] It fell from popularity during the 19th century when its composition became more generally known to artists.[5] The Pre-Raphaelite artist Edward Burne-Jones was reported to have ceremonially buried his tube of Mummy Brown in his garden when he discovered its true origins.[3]
By 1915, one London colourman claimed that he could satisfy the demands of his customers for twenty years from one Egyptian mummy. Mummy Brown eventually ceased being produced in its traditional form later in the 20th century when the supply of available mummies was exhausted
Man, that may be the purest form of old-timey "we don't give a fuck about your culture" I've ever seen.
to play devil's advocate, the pyramids are so old that they cannot really be said to be from anyone's culture
cleopatra was born closer to the building of the first fast food hamburger chain than to the building of the pyramids
but even the devil's actual advocate would have to say "plundering graves and grinding up the corpses are you for fucking real"
Mummy brown was originally made in the 16th and 17th centuries from white pitch, myrrh, and the ground-up remains of Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.[2] As it had good transparency, it could be used for glazes, shadows, flesh tones and shading.[3] However, in addition to its tendency to crack, it was extremely variable in its composition and quality, and since it contained ammonia and particles of fat, was likely to affect other colours with which it was used.[4] It fell from popularity during the 19th century when its composition became more generally known to artists.[5] The Pre-Raphaelite artist Edward Burne-Jones was reported to have ceremonially buried his tube of Mummy Brown in his garden when he discovered its true origins.[3]
By 1915, one London colourman claimed that he could satisfy the demands of his customers for twenty years from one Egyptian mummy. Mummy Brown eventually ceased being produced in its traditional form later in the 20th century when the supply of available mummies was exhausted
Man, that may be the purest form of old-timey "we don't give a fuck about your culture" I've ever seen.
We also burned Mummy remains as fuel sometimes.
that's stupid, that's twenty years of paint they burned
Mummy brown was originally made in the 16th and 17th centuries from white pitch, myrrh, and the ground-up remains of Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.[2] As it had good transparency, it could be used for glazes, shadows, flesh tones and shading.[3] However, in addition to its tendency to crack, it was extremely variable in its composition and quality, and since it contained ammonia and particles of fat, was likely to affect other colours with which it was used.[4] It fell from popularity during the 19th century when its composition became more generally known to artists.[5] The Pre-Raphaelite artist Edward Burne-Jones was reported to have ceremonially buried his tube of Mummy Brown in his garden when he discovered its true origins.[3]
By 1915, one London colourman claimed that he could satisfy the demands of his customers for twenty years from one Egyptian mummy. Mummy Brown eventually ceased being produced in its traditional form later in the 20th century when the supply of available mummies was exhausted
Man, that may be the purest form of old-timey "we don't give a fuck about your culture" I've ever seen.
We also burned Mummy remains as fuel sometimes.
that's stupid, that's twenty years of paint they burned
Noble’s new book, Medicinal Cannibalism in Early Modern English Literature and Culture, and another by Richard Sugg of England’s University of Durham, Mummies, Cannibals and Vampires: The History of Corpse Medicine from the Renaissance to the Victorians, reveal that for several hundred years, peaking in the 16th and 17th centuries, many Europeans, including royalty, priests and scientists, routinely ingested remedies containing human bones, blood and fat as medicine for everything from headaches to epilepsy. There were few vocal opponents of the practice, even though cannibalism in the newly explored Americas was reviled as a mark of savagery. Mummies were stolen from Egyptian tombs, and skulls were taken from Irish burial sites. Gravediggers robbed and sold body parts.
“The question was not, ‘Should you eat human flesh?’ but, ‘What sort of flesh should you eat?’ ” says Sugg. The answer, at first, was Egyptian mummy, which was crumbled into tinctures to stanch internal bleeding. But other parts of the body soon followed. Skull was one common ingredient, taken in powdered form to cure head ailments. Thomas Willis, a 17th-century pioneer of brain science, brewed a drink for apoplexy, or bleeding, that mingled powdered human skull and chocolate. And King Charles II of England sipped “The King’s Drops,” his personal tincture, containing human skull in alcohol. Even the toupee of moss that grew over a buried skull, called Usnea, became a prized additive, its powder believed to cure nosebleeds and possibly epilepsy. Human fat was used to treat the outside of the body. German doctors, for instance, prescribed bandages soaked in it for wounds, and rubbing fat into the skin was considered a remedy for gout.
freud would have a lot to say about calling a shambling monster from the past mummy
but freud sucks
The English word mummy is derived from medieval Latin mumia, a borrowing of the medieval Arabic word mūmiya (مومياء) and from a Persian word mūm (wax),[5] which meant an embalmed corpse, and as well as the bituminous embalming substance, and also meant "bitumen".[6] The Medieval English term "mummy" was defined as "medical preparation of the substance of mummies", rather than the entire corpse, with Richard Hakluyt in 1599 CE complaining that "these dead bodies are the Mummy which the Phisistians and Apothecaries doe against our willes make us to swallow".[7] These substances were defined as mummia.
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As a poshy English girl trapped in someone else's body who secretly wants to be a psychic ninja,
I don't think we're disagreeing here.
It's still a dick move if you know about it and do it anyway - not as bad as the cheater, of course. If you didn't know you got screwed more than once, and may get backlash from it from the other partner and god help you if it gets into legal or press bullshit. That's not on the person who isn't the cheater doing a bad thing, it's making an unintended bad choice and unfortunately getting roped into bullshit because you chose to sleep with the wrong person.
Was that actually part of her backstory, being trapped in a body that wasn't hers? I thought the English accent just meant she was from Hong Kong or whatever.
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somebody's watchin' meeeee
Uh yeah!
She's stuck in the body of Revanche after weird Mojo stuff
yeah but we're talking about the specific reasons why it is bad
which in my view is that it is solely because it's a serious breach of the Don't Be A Dick To A Stranger rule
you're not betraying anyone's trust like the cheater, but you still kind of a dick
it'll take a bit to get there so bear with me
I appreciate a compliment to me about my girl more than a compliment about me. Because about me it's like yeah sure I guess. I'm me anyway. But I'm psyched about her so when somebody else is like she is really nice I'm like I know right?! It's like somebody saying that they like a movie that's your favourite.
And, taken to an extreme: while a solid case can be made that it is absolutely not healthy to seek validation through, and derive your self worth from, the perceptions of others of your conquests, I will argue here that it may also simply be empiricism. Your theory of your self worth is strengthened by supporting evidence.
So therefore, friends, I argue that sleeping with someone's wife is among the highest compliments you can give a man
at the course for elected representative in the army, after all the dull HSE and ombudsmann stuff, I had so much fun when we practiced debate and arguments with our positions handed to us, because the position I got handed to argue was "Yes To Barracks Wank Rooms"
Yeah, the surrounding bits are much worse than DoFP.
Which I thought was ok, but sadly had pacing issues and didn't do the natural thing at particular parts.
All my concerns are turned up to 11 for Apocalypse
porn
ultra porn
one specific weird type of porn
vore
furry vore
normal porn
if there had been a vote, I would not have won, of course. But it was still a victory.
I got to lean back, grin, bask in the moments of silence afterwards where nobody had anything to say because they were all thinking "fucking seriously?" and just thoroughly enjoy not only making a solid case for us having a designated room where we would all go to have a wank, but also that we should keep track of how long and how often each of us wank.
I think scientology got started for much the same reasons, but he got way too carried away when people actually started buying his bullshit-for-bullshit's sake
chasing up another job lead today
unemployment roller coaster is too extreme for me
it probably helps if you're actively invested in x-men lore
edit: or x-men apocalypse, or whatever it's called
We also burned Mummy remains as fuel sometimes.
Certainly not any more.
Bridging days are any excellent concept but I like the safety of all days off being mondays
to play devil's advocate, the pyramids are so old that they cannot really be said to be from anyone's culture
cleopatra was born closer to the building of the first fast food hamburger chain than to the building of the pyramids
but even the devil's actual advocate would have to say "plundering graves and grinding up the corpses are you for fucking real"
that's stupid, that's twenty years of paint they burned
freud would have a lot to say about calling a shambling monster from the past mummy
but freud sucks
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-gruesome-history-of-eating-corpses-as-medicine-82360284/?no-ist
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Yes well...koondeh is a gay slur actually @MrMister
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We deffo were not just discussing how your ancestors were ground-up & used as fuel, paint & junk science medicine by European colonial interests.
Being turned into art millenias after your death is something I'd be pretty ok with