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The LGBT Thread
Kwoaru
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It’s that time of year again! June is LGBT Pride Month in the United States, and that means that all month long the LGBT community will be pandered to by corporations celebrated and honored by the populace at large.
If you make up some part of the QUILTBAG (even if you don’t fit in that cute little acronym) then I hope this thread can be a place for you to feel comfortable talking about it!
Of course heterosexual cisgender folks are welcome as well just try and be considerate of the space, that’s all. Feel free to ask if you have any questions (though maybe try google first) or talk about stuff that falls under the purview of the thread, the important thing is don’t be jerk.
Things worth keeping in mind:
- If you ask a question then take some time to absorb the answer, even if it doesn’t make sense right away maybe let it percolate a little bit before arguing about it.
- Don't misgender or deadname people (both your fellow forumers and people who don’t post here), if you aren’t sure what pronoun or name you should use then you can always say so!
- Be respectful of whatever labels people self-apply. It is never ever up to you to decide that someone is not actually bi or not really a woman or anything like that. I don’t care what your reasoning is, you are wrong to do so and this is not the venue to argue semantics.
So let's talk about some gay shit! (and trans shit and bi shit and ace shit and every other kind)
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edit: Gentrification. Sorry for harshing the thread.
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I would love to take a ride on a makeout bus
Also the B in the local LGBT community still seems to stand for "But not you, assholes". It's easier to stand alone than to rally to "friends" who can be pretty reliably counted on to be much more shitty towards me than our supposed mutual enemies.
It's been a while since I put out any ads for my "Friendly and Inclusive" D&D nights though, so maybe it's a good time to fish for new recruits.
Swoon.
I gotta pull out my rainbow He-man shirt. I love that shirt.
Canada gets the raddest PM ever while America has to suffer through Trump as the honest-to-god presidential candidate for one of the two major political parties. Shit's unfair yo.
but Pride is too sharp of a reminder on who has benefited the most from "LGBT" legislation
queue white gay dudes asking why trans women seem to be so angry all the time
Twitch (I stream most days of the week)
Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
As I've gotten older since my first pride 14 years ago, I guess I can appreciate those sorts of events more and more. But hey, I can still appreciate people being carefree and walking around shirtless or fully naked during the main weekend, too.
Steam: TheArcadeBear
I like that it's tame enough that families feel comfortable showing up with kids though, I think the trade off between what might be a little more fun and making things more open is a reasonable one
Listen, we had to endure over ten years of a scheming autocratic racist while you got Obama. I think it's totally fair.
WoW
Dear Satan.....
On the other hand, I'm moving in with my boyfriend soon(ish) so that's kinda rad
The question is: when a company (or government agency) has a "gender" field on a form, is the presentation of the answers:
Male
Female
Transgender
Other
A well thought out way of presenting this? I saw it today and it... I don't know, something strikes me as wrong but it's in my blind spot. Maybe because it feels like the "transgender" entry seems to exclude a transwoman from simply checking the equally correct, "female" box?
Like, Male, Female, Other would be perfectly fine
I don't see the purpose of identifying specifically as transgender on something like that
gender is more relevant to some jobs, but I'd want to have that field be the same way. My instinct would be to have something like:
Optional: With which gender do you identify?
[] Male
[] Female
[] Other (both, neither, NGB, etc.) _________
Note: ________
I feel like putting the concept of gender identity in the question at least acknowledges transgender people, and not having a separate option implies that there's no difference on the form between a cisgender male and a transgender male. At the same time, I think it's good having a space to clarify if the person wants to do so - so if they want to distinguish themselves as trans then they can, but aren't forced to.
Are you going again this year?
I'm really looking forward to it
Yeah I'm going to do both the parade and festival again, they were a lot of fun last year (even though it rained on the festival a bit)
If you're going this year we should meet up at some point, hopefully the weather finds a happy medium between torrential rain and scorched earth
https://www.gbfans.com/shop/no-ghost-equality-lapel-pin/
how would you change it?
this pin almost reads like, no gay ghosts?? or gay people hate ghosts???
why do you hate gay ghosts, man
A pretty simple way would be, depending on what they're asking (and if it's relevant, say Dr's office) having a subquestion after M/F asking if you're trans or whatnot.
You could also do a "check all that apply," though you'd probably get more mistakes than with other setups, or you could just have a line for comments (that one is pretty easy and works pretty well, because I can tick off F and then write "MTF trans" and everyone knows exactly what's what).
E: oh wait, I missed your post, because it's not even noon yet so clearly I'm not awake. Nevermind!
Then you're just a horrible misfantasmist.
and yeah we've made out like bandits with the acceptance in the last five years and most have spent very little time giving any of that back to the QUILTBAG community so part of me feels like i shouldn't even complain.
so we certainly don't belong in the straight group and we aren't wanted in the original group but the third group we'd make of just ourselves is full of a lot of assholes, quite frankly, and that would just make it worse.
I'm kind of at a loss as to how to make it better.
I'd say just be there, try to be supportive of the causes that need the most attention, and do your best to be self-aware of when the white cis dude stuff might be drowning out people whose voices need a boost. At least, that's my approach to being an ally (even if I drop the ball sometimes on that last bit).
I don't know, that seems like literally the LEAST I can do. Like that should be expected behavior and it certainly fucking isn't. But then that means I'd have to work with gay white guys to show them how selfish our community is and seriously why would I spend my time on that