...Don't they? I'm literally using an 2TB Xbox branded Seagate external drive that I just ripped out of the case. And they make a 4TB version as well that looks pretty much identical.
Yeah, I have a 4TB 2.5" external as well. Just used it on my last deployment earlier this year.
For transferring data? Cause I have uncapped decent speed Internet for mass downloading. Hell, when I built my pc last year, I downloaded 3tb of games in a 2weeks.
Yeah, cloud saving made that process really nice for me. Just make sure all my saves were uploaded, pop in the new drive and redownload everything
I wonder how the process goes with putting an old hard drive into a new PS4? Because I plan on putting my current 2TB into my Pro
I'm guessing it doesn't go. With the PS3, you had to reformat the drive when putting a new HD into the system; doesn't matter if it came from your old PS3.
Yeah, cloud saving made that process really nice for me. Just make sure all my saves were uploaded, pop in the new drive and redownload everything
I wonder how the process goes with putting an old hard drive into a new PS4? Because I plan on putting my current 2TB into my Pro
I'm guessing it doesn't go. With the PS3, you had to reformat the drive when putting a new HD into the system; doesn't matter if it came from your old PS3.
Yeah, each HDD on the PS3 is encrypted to only work on that one system. PS4 is probably pretty similar.
Usually I hate pre-ordering early but I pre-ordered my Pro a couple of days ago because who knows how many units they're going to send over here. I'm just going to use my current 1TB SSHD on it because it's served me well and I don't think there are any larger SSHDs out there anyway. It's no big deal, I like to keep my library fairly tidy, so it usually stays safely under the limit.
Bam The Last Guardian delayed to Dec7th. Rather a delay than cancellation or poopy game butthey made such a bigdeal out of this getting a release date, it's really funny.
Yeah, cloud saving made that process really nice for me. Just make sure all my saves were uploaded, pop in the new drive and redownload everything
I wonder how the process goes with putting an old hard drive into a new PS4? Because I plan on putting my current 2TB into my Pro
I'm guessing it doesn't go. With the PS3, you had to reformat the drive when putting a new HD into the system; doesn't matter if it came from your old PS3.
It's be nice if you could just put the old drive into the new system, log into your account, and it'd do whatever technical mumbo jumbo needed to transfer shit with no problem.
Honestly though, I'm kinda sympathetic to Sony a tiny bit. Especially with the latest news of no mod content in Bethesda games. They have had a horrible history regarding encryption and hacking. Apparently in the past week or so the Vita hacking and piracy scene has absolutely blown up thanks to Henkaku. I have little doubt they're probably scared shitless of user mod capability now, lest that be an avenue to PS4 hacking.
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This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
It's pretty amazing that they could have that problem given what was originally intended to be a PS3 game. Makes you think just how extensively the game had to have been recreated in its last twenty years of development.
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
We've seen one trailer in the last 12 months, what on earth are you talking about?
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
We've seen one trailer in the last 12 months, what on earth are you talking about?
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While I never played #1. . . the things I've heard about it, I have no real interest in playing it.
I loved #2, flaws and all, but I doubt I want to play both #2 and "Off The Record".
Question is, what improvements/changes were made to "Off The Record"?
Is it the Gold version of DR2, or just "DR2 for fans of Frank"?
Ooooooh! I can't wait!
It's not really for fans of Frank since he ends up as a big, gross asshole really. The whole selling point really is the Free Mode which is much better than the limited one in DR2.
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
We've seen one trailer in the last 12 months, what on earth are you talking about?
"What we've seen"
SMH. It's almost as if the game isn't finished yet. Based on your logic, Uncharted 4 shouldn't perform well on regular PS4s.
Edit: To clarify, the reason so many people think FFXV will run poorly is because a) The two demos so far have run like ass and b) It's a hugely ambitious game with an enormous open world.
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
We've seen one trailer in the last 12 months, what on earth are you talking about?
"What we've seen"
SMH. It's almost as if the game isn't finished yet. Based on your logic, Uncharted 4 shouldn't perform well on regular PS4s.
Edit: To clarify, the reason so many people think FFXV will run poorly is because a) The two demos so far have run like ass and b) It's a hugely ambitious game with an enormous open world.
I'm not stating that TLG will for sure come out unoptimized for regular PS4. I'm just looking forward to experiencing it with the best possible visuals and performance by playing it on the Pro.
If you're willing to run a SATA cable, you can use whatever hard drive size you want. You can even connect it to a RAID Enclosure of multiple hard drives. People have made 6gb, 15gb, etc. PS4 drives.
Nyko also sells their own hard drive extension/adapter to use 3.5" hard drives with the PS4 if you don't mind the weird uneven look.
Think you meant TB. I know I'm probably the only one on this earth that still uses a 256MB Flash Drive but I didn't think the rest of the world is still using GB HDD.
I don't really see what makes FF15 "hugely ambitious"
they think it'll make a profit?
I think its hugely ambitious in that the director basically had to completely destroy SE's corporate culture in regards to Final Fantasy in order to get it made.
I have no clue how The Last Guardian could get a fair shake at this point. It could be excellent and still not live up to "we waited ten years for this?"
And that's assuming it's excellent -- it's a little disconcerting how little of it we've seen so far.
Ah well, at least it's something that's not a sequel, so my fingers are crossed it's at least good.
I'm still ready to play it - I'm super excited. I'd be pretty surprised if it benefits that much from PS4 Pro, just because it's been delayed so long I wouldn't think they'd take much time to really push those additional features. I'd assume the order is "get it out the gd door" at this point. But then again, I was completely underwhelmed by Pro and am not it's intended audience I guess.
I do wish that Ico and Shadow were available on the PS4 - I'd love to replay them in preparation.
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
We've seen one trailer in the last 12 months, what on earth are you talking about?
"What we've seen"
SMH. It's almost as if the game isn't finished yet. Based on your logic, Uncharted 4 shouldn't perform well on regular PS4s.
Edit: To clarify, the reason so many people think FFXV will run poorly is because a) The two demos so far have run like ass and b) It's a hugely ambitious game with an enormous open world.
I'm not stating that TLG will for sure come out unoptimized for regular PS4. I'm just looking forward to experiencing it with the best possible visuals and performance by playing it on the Pro.
It sure didn't seem like that when you lumped it in with a game that a lot of people have serious doubts over but alright.
I doubt it'll have that many upgrades on the Pro though, hopefully some down sampling at least.
I don't really see what makes FF15 "hugely ambitious"
I meant from a tech perspective. They're doing a hell of a lot of things that should make it really hard to optimise (enormous enemies, flying around in your car, etc).
I'm still ready to play it - I'm super excited. I'd be pretty surprised if it benefits that much from PS4 Pro, just because it's been delayed so long I wouldn't think they'd take much time to really push those additional features. I'd assume the order is "get it out the gd door" at this point. But then again, I was completely underwhelmed by Pro and am not it's intended audience I guess.
I do wish that Ico and Shadow were available on the PS4 - I'd love to replay them in preparation.
I'd be shocked if they're doing anything Pro-wise to Last Guardian at this point -- if it's missing a decent chunk of the all-important holiday season, there must be something about the fundamentals that needs addressed.
2. Hunting quests that aren't all simply "Kill X monsters, collect rewards": the ones shown off seem to be highly scripted battles with massive monsters that have their own unique dialogue, gameplay mechanics and situations.
3. Monster behaviors, such as swimming, hunting other monsters, day/night behaviors, etc as well as targetable parts and limbs for extra rewards
4. A vehicle that, while not capable of traversing everywhere, can be upgraded, damaged to the point it requires repairs, a radio station with buyable tracks, and the eventual ability to
fly around in it
5. Fishing, racing, pinball, and a dozen other mini-games we haven't seen yet
6. A battle system that is a combination of strategy, magic, character combos and KH-style combat.
Having doubts is fine and all, but you can't argue that FFXV isn't the most ambitious game to come out of that company.
Just throwing this out there in case it ever goes on sale dirt cheap again.
I am very, very angry at myself for not supporting The Order at full price when it came out.
I fell victim to the waves of negativity around it, and waited on it until it was $10, and just finished it finally last night. It was fantastic.
It is easily still the best looking PS4 game. The setting is incredibly interesting. The characters are really unique and the whole world feels very alive. There's some pretty awesome weapons and they all look fantastic. The plot suffered from being a little too obvious in places, but does some VERY fun things and it ends on a note that really has me hooked into what happens next.
Yes, it's kinda short, but I don't have 100's of hours for story driven games anymore. Yes, there's not multiple difficulties and that was a bummer. And of course, because it's a 10000% single player experience how DARE they charge $60 upon release.
But seriously - it is absolutely nowhere NEAR as bad as I had been made to think. The outrage over it was insane. It's an awesome game. Pick it up.
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Yeah, bought The Order at release and did not regret it. Thought it was a cool set up for a new IP, but I don't know if we'll ever get a sequel now. A shame, really. It is a pretty good game, but it just couldn't overcome the internet hive-mind =/
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
My biggest take-away from the Internet Outrage Machine is that The Order was like, 4-6 hours long. I know value is subjective and all, but for me, considering the average length of other quality games at the same price point, I was content to wait for it to come down in price.
I'm trying to recall my first playthrough, and I want to say it was ~10 hours to complete. But I explored every level for collectibles. Still, the game was as long as the story needed to be, and I felt it was fine. That's not to say the game length isn't a valid concern, but I am pretty sure that it is more like 6-10 hours for a playthrough.
That was something that was kind of annoying when the game came out. The thread was full of people declaring that the game was garbage, using all the erroneous information that the internet was spewing out. It was a weird split, in that you could tell who had and had not played the game. "This game is garbage, and here's why" were the people who were just going off of what they read somewhere, meanwhile the people who were actually playing it were all saying "Hey, actually this is pretty good!"
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
I am very, very angry at myself for not supporting The Order at full price when it came out.
I fell victim to the waves of negativity around it, and waited on it until it was $10, and just finished it finally last night. It was fantastic.
I picked up the Order for either $10 or $20 (I think $20) and really, really enjoyed it. It's absolutely gorgeous - you're right, nothing else touches it on PS4 - and while I'm not one to prioritize visuals over all else, it's simply worth the price of admission, in my opinion, to see some of these scenes. Great art design, a neat (if kind of simple and overdone) premise, decent gameplay that would be mind-numbing at 20+ hours but is fine for a short experience, and a fun game to Platinum. I understand why people would be upset at paying $60 - there's not much meat there, and I think I had Platinumed it in two days - but at a reduced price, it's worth checking out.
I'm still ready to play it - I'm super excited. I'd be pretty surprised if it benefits that much from PS4 Pro, just because it's been delayed so long I wouldn't think they'd take much time to really push those additional features. I'd assume the order is "get it out the gd door" at this point. But then again, I was completely underwhelmed by Pro and am not it's intended audience I guess.
I do wish that Ico and Shadow were available on the PS4 - I'd love to replay them in preparation.
I'd be shocked if they're doing anything Pro-wise to Last Guardian at this point -- if it's missing a decent chunk of the all-important holiday season, there must be something about the fundamentals that needs addressed.
Yeah, I agree. I don't think TLG will be leveraging any of this Pro stuff at all, and I don't think it'll play any better on Pro. It just doesn't seem like it would be Pro-optimized, given all of its other issues over many years, and given that it just doesn't seem done yet.
Re: the FFXV discussion: I just want to see how this thing reviews. It's been such a long wait, and there's going to be a lot of hype, but there's also a lot of justified skepticism... and I just want to see if it truly is an ambitious game-changer or if it's kind of a gorgeous-looking bore like FFXIII was (although I liked FFXIII much more than most)... or if it's just something in between, which is sort of what I expect and would not be enough to get me to grab it.
PSVR demo disc is wonderful. I think I'm interested in trying almost every single one of those demos. Played Job Simulator at Pax East and fell in love; played Rush of Blood and enjoyed it for ten-ish minutes (it was a long demo) but felt that it was very much a novelty.
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Yeah, I have a 4TB 2.5" external as well. Just used it on my last deployment earlier this year.
They're expensive, but 4TB 2.5" internals exist.
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If you're doing that, you'll probably need another external 4tb drive to backup to.
Otherwise yeah, for a great many people, those are serious limitations, and backing up to a drive is about the only sensible option
I wonder how the process goes with putting an old hard drive into a new PS4? Because I plan on putting my current 2TB into my Pro
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Yeah, each HDD on the PS3 is encrypted to only work on that one system. PS4 is probably pretty similar.
Usually I hate pre-ordering early but I pre-ordered my Pro a couple of days ago because who knows how many units they're going to send over here. I'm just going to use my current 1TB SSHD on it because it's served me well and I don't think there are any larger SSHDs out there anyway. It's no big deal, I like to keep my library fairly tidy, so it usually stays safely under the limit.
It's be nice if you could just put the old drive into the new system, log into your account, and it'd do whatever technical mumbo jumbo needed to transfer shit with no problem.
Honestly though, I'm kinda sympathetic to Sony a tiny bit. Especially with the latest news of no mod content in Bethesda games. They have had a horrible history regarding encryption and hacking. Apparently in the past week or so the Vita hacking and piracy scene has absolutely blown up thanks to Henkaku. I have little doubt they're probably scared shitless of user mod capability now, lest that be an avenue to PS4 hacking.
This is actually good news for me: I was already considering putting it off until after I get the Pro, since what we've seen of that game suggests it's having the same problem as FFXV with performing optimally on regular PS4.
Plus October is already jam packed with VR, World of Final Fantasy and other stuff. This is a good thing.
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It's pretty amazing that they could have that problem given what was originally intended to be a PS3 game. Makes you think just how extensively the game had to have been recreated in its last twenty years of development.
We've seen one trailer in the last 12 months, what on earth are you talking about?
"What we've seen"
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It's not really for fans of Frank since he ends up as a big, gross asshole really. The whole selling point really is the Free Mode which is much better than the limited one in DR2.
If I was just getting one, I'd get OTR.
SMH. It's almost as if the game isn't finished yet. Based on your logic, Uncharted 4 shouldn't perform well on regular PS4s.
Edit: To clarify, the reason so many people think FFXV will run poorly is because a) The two demos so far have run like ass and b) It's a hugely ambitious game with an enormous open world.
they think it'll make a profit?
I'm not stating that TLG will for sure come out unoptimized for regular PS4. I'm just looking forward to experiencing it with the best possible visuals and performance by playing it on the Pro.
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Think you meant TB. I know I'm probably the only one on this earth that still uses a 256MB Flash Drive but I didn't think the rest of the world is still using GB HDD.
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I think its hugely ambitious in that the director basically had to completely destroy SE's corporate culture in regards to Final Fantasy in order to get it made.
And that's assuming it's excellent -- it's a little disconcerting how little of it we've seen so far.
Ah well, at least it's something that's not a sequel, so my fingers are crossed it's at least good.
I do wish that Ico and Shadow were available on the PS4 - I'd love to replay them in preparation.
It sure didn't seem like that when you lumped it in with a game that a lot of people have serious doubts over but alright.
I doubt it'll have that many upgrades on the Pro though, hopefully some down sampling at least.
I meant from a tech perspective. They're doing a hell of a lot of things that should make it really hard to optimise (enormous enemies, flying around in your car, etc).
I'd be shocked if they're doing anything Pro-wise to Last Guardian at this point -- if it's missing a decent chunk of the all-important holiday season, there must be something about the fundamentals that needs addressed.
Off the top of my head:
1. At least three massively open world regions, which barely fit what appears to be a massive world map: http://orig07.deviantart.net/5a57/f/2015/360/b/3/final_fantasy_xv___world_map__important_update__by_nurboyxvi-d9kphg6.png
2. Hunting quests that aren't all simply "Kill X monsters, collect rewards": the ones shown off seem to be highly scripted battles with massive monsters that have their own unique dialogue, gameplay mechanics and situations.
3. Monster behaviors, such as swimming, hunting other monsters, day/night behaviors, etc as well as targetable parts and limbs for extra rewards
4. A vehicle that, while not capable of traversing everywhere, can be upgraded, damaged to the point it requires repairs, a radio station with buyable tracks, and the eventual ability to
5. Fishing, racing, pinball, and a dozen other mini-games we haven't seen yet
6. A battle system that is a combination of strategy, magic, character combos and KH-style combat.
Having doubts is fine and all, but you can't argue that FFXV isn't the most ambitious game to come out of that company.
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I am very, very angry at myself for not supporting The Order at full price when it came out.
I fell victim to the waves of negativity around it, and waited on it until it was $10, and just finished it finally last night. It was fantastic.
It is easily still the best looking PS4 game. The setting is incredibly interesting. The characters are really unique and the whole world feels very alive. There's some pretty awesome weapons and they all look fantastic. The plot suffered from being a little too obvious in places, but does some VERY fun things and it ends on a note that really has me hooked into what happens next.
Yes, it's kinda short, but I don't have 100's of hours for story driven games anymore. Yes, there's not multiple difficulties and that was a bummer. And of course, because it's a 10000% single player experience how DARE they charge $60 upon release.
But seriously - it is absolutely nowhere NEAR as bad as I had been made to think. The outrage over it was insane. It's an awesome game. Pick it up.
Then I just forgot it exists.
That was something that was kind of annoying when the game came out. The thread was full of people declaring that the game was garbage, using all the erroneous information that the internet was spewing out. It was a weird split, in that you could tell who had and had not played the game. "This game is garbage, and here's why" were the people who were just going off of what they read somewhere, meanwhile the people who were actually playing it were all saying "Hey, actually this is pretty good!"
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Yeah, I agree. I don't think TLG will be leveraging any of this Pro stuff at all, and I don't think it'll play any better on Pro. It just doesn't seem like it would be Pro-optimized, given all of its other issues over many years, and given that it just doesn't seem done yet.
Re: the FFXV discussion: I just want to see how this thing reviews. It's been such a long wait, and there's going to be a lot of hype, but there's also a lot of justified skepticism... and I just want to see if it truly is an ambitious game-changer or if it's kind of a gorgeous-looking bore like FFXIII was (although I liked FFXIII much more than most)... or if it's just something in between, which is sort of what I expect and would not be enough to get me to grab it.
PSVR demo disc is wonderful. I think I'm interested in trying almost every single one of those demos. Played Job Simulator at Pax East and fell in love; played Rush of Blood and enjoyed it for ten-ish minutes (it was a long demo) but felt that it was very much a novelty.
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