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US Presidential Elections: an exclusive look at the Trump intervention

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    davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Delzhand wrote: »
    https://americavoteswithcardsagainsthumanity.com

    Oh my god! Read where the proceeds go! Read it!

    Edit:the frequently asked questions:
    Frequently Asked Questions

    What is this?

    It’s democracy, baby! Make your voice heard with Cards Against Humanity as we offer two new expansion packs about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

    Where’s my money going?

    The funds that we take in will be split between direct, legal contributions to Hillary Clinton’s PAC, contributions to groups opposing Trump, and get out the vote programs in swing states.

    Can I buy more than one?

    We’re limiting three packs each per household.

    Are these available internationally?

    This promotion is only available in the United States. If you don’t currently live in the United States, good.

    Can I add more Cards Against Humanity stuff to my cart?

    We’re happy to take more money off your hands. Visit the main store.

    Why can’t I buy a pack for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

    Just skip the middleman and vote for Trump.

    I’m mad and I want to tell you about my political views.

    Certainly. Please email EntitledWhining@CardsAgainstHumanity.com.

    I guaran-fucking-tee a lot of people are reading "At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money..." and then their eyes are going directly to the next bit without actually reading it.

    Well I bought one of each so I guess I canceled out my own vote.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Delzhand wrote: »
    https://americavoteswithcardsagainsthumanity.com

    Oh my god! Read where the proceeds go! Read it!

    Edit:the frequently asked questions:
    Frequently Asked Questions

    What is this?

    It’s democracy, baby! Make your voice heard with Cards Against Humanity as we offer two new expansion packs about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

    Where’s my money going?

    The funds that we take in will be split between direct, legal contributions to Hillary Clinton’s PAC, contributions to groups opposing Trump, and get out the vote programs in swing states.

    Can I buy more than one?

    We’re limiting three packs each per household.

    Are these available internationally?

    This promotion is only available in the United States. If you don’t currently live in the United States, good.

    Can I add more Cards Against Humanity stuff to my cart?

    We’re happy to take more money off your hands. Visit the main store.

    Why can’t I buy a pack for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

    Just skip the middleman and vote for Trump.

    I’m mad and I want to tell you about my political views.

    Certainly. Please email EntitledWhining@CardsAgainstHumanity.com.

    I guaran-fucking-tee a lot of people are reading "At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money..." and then their eyes are going directly to the next bit without actually reading it.

    This is a tough promotion. I'm glad all the money is going to Hill-dawg, but I'm torn between which to buy. On the one hand, I want Hillary to win this and every other vote forever. On the other, the plays I could make with a set of Trump cards...

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    Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    Crayon wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Can we include "No nowcast polls"?

    Please?

    Nope!

    Nowcast polls are statistically relevant and interesting, provided you know what they are and they are placed in proper context.

    Honestly asking here-relevant to what? I just don't see it. I find my statistical relevancy of eating a ham sandwich today a bit more interesting. It changes so frequently that it feels sometimes every other post is one.

    It shows the state of the race at any given moment and helps provide context on the effect of recent events.

    Hillary having >95% chance shows that she had a massive convention boost, for example. That's something we can't really see as much in Polls-Only (which has a heavier focus on long term trends) or Polls-Plus (which not only has a heavier focus on long term trends, but also includes other factors that reduces the effect of poll swings, including one that directly penalized Hillary for the convention to counteract the bump). And then we can see the bump fade--but possibly not going quite back down to pre-convention levels, because Trump has had a few other controversies in the meantime that might create a longer term effect. The other two methods will smooth that all out and we can't see those short term effects.

    It may not correspond to the final outcome as well, but it's not meant to.

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    CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    Crayon wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Can we include "No nowcast polls"?

    Please?

    Nope!

    Nowcast polls are statistically relevant and interesting, provided you know what they are and they are placed in proper context.

    Honestly asking here-relevant to what? I just don't see it. I find my statistical relevancy of eating a ham sandwich today a bit more interesting. It changes so frequently that it feels sometimes every other post is one.

    It shows the state of the race at any given moment and helps provide context on the effect of recent events.

    Hillary having >95% chance shows that she had a massive convention boost, for example. That's something we can't really see as much in Polls-Only (which has a heavier focus on long term trends) or Polls-Plus (which not only has a heavier focus on long term trends, but also includes other factors that reduces the effect of poll swings, including one that directly penalized Hillary for the convention to counteract the bump). And then we can see the bump fade--but possibly not going quite back down to pre-convention levels, because Trump has had a few other controversies in the meantime that might create a longer term effect. The other two methods will smooth that all out and we can't see those short term effects.

    It may not correspond to the final outcome as well, but it's not meant to.

    Yeah, I edited my post. I know what it is, I just don't see the relevancy three months out and the needed update every time the change is minimal.

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    DacDac Registered User regular
    Crayon wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Can we include "No nowcast polls"?

    Please?

    Nope!

    Nowcast polls are statistically relevant and interesting, provided you know what they are and they are placed in proper context.

    Honestly asking here-relevant to what? I just don't see it. I find my statistical relevancy of eating a ham sandwich today a bit more interesting. It changes so frequently that it feels sometimes every other post is one.

    "New nowcast projects Trump to have a X chance of winning"

    "That's X points too high!"

    "I'm scared, someone hold me."

    Every day.

    It's not terribly enlightening or illuminating. It's most helpful in examining trends, yet every single data point is posted and commented upon as if it singularly is significant.

    In truth, I find satirical articles more worthwhile.

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    davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    The confirmation email from my order of the Hilary and trump cards included this bit:
    By the way, the deadline to register to vote in Nebraska is October 21.
    You can register here: https://www.nebraska.gov/apps-sos-voter-registration/

    How are they so rad?

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    https://americavoteswithcardsagainsthumanity.com

    Oh my god! Read where the proceeds go! Read it!

    Edit:the frequently asked questions:
    Frequently Asked Questions

    What is this?

    It’s democracy, baby! Make your voice heard with Cards Against Humanity as we offer two new expansion packs about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

    Where’s my money going?

    The funds that we take in will be split between direct, legal contributions to Hillary Clinton’s PAC, contributions to groups opposing Trump, and get out the vote programs in swing states.

    Can I buy more than one?

    We’re limiting three packs each per household.

    Are these available internationally?

    This promotion is only available in the United States. If you don’t currently live in the United States, good.

    Can I add more Cards Against Humanity stuff to my cart?

    We’re happy to take more money off your hands. Visit the main store.

    Why can’t I buy a pack for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

    Just skip the middleman and vote for Trump.

    I’m mad and I want to tell you about my political views.

    Certainly. Please email EntitledWhining@CardsAgainstHumanity.com.

    I guaran-fucking-tee a lot of people are reading "At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money..." and then their eyes are going directly to the next bit without actually reading it.

    This is a tough promotion. I'm glad all the money is going to Hill-dawg, but I'm torn between which to buy. On the one hand, I want Hillary to win this and every other vote forever. On the other, the plays I could make with a set of Trump cards...

    The downside is that everyone will know you're holding Trump cards in your hand...
    because they're yuuuuge!
    I'm sorry.

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    OatsOats Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    https://americavoteswithcardsagainsthumanity.com

    Oh my god! Read where the proceeds go! Read it!

    Edit:the frequently asked questions:
    Frequently Asked Questions

    What is this?

    It’s democracy, baby! Make your voice heard with Cards Against Humanity as we offer two new expansion packs about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

    Where’s my money going?

    The funds that we take in will be split between direct, legal contributions to Hillary Clinton’s PAC, contributions to groups opposing Trump, and get out the vote programs in swing states.

    Can I buy more than one?

    We’re limiting three packs each per household.

    Are these available internationally?

    This promotion is only available in the United States. If you don’t currently live in the United States, good.

    Can I add more Cards Against Humanity stuff to my cart?

    We’re happy to take more money off your hands. Visit the main store.

    Why can’t I buy a pack for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

    Just skip the middleman and vote for Trump.

    I’m mad and I want to tell you about my political views.

    Certainly. Please email EntitledWhining@CardsAgainstHumanity.com.

    I guaran-fucking-tee a lot of people are reading "At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money..." and then their eyes are going directly to the next bit without actually reading it.

    This is a tough promotion. I'm glad all the money is going to Hill-dawg, but I'm torn between which to buy. On the one hand, I want Hillary to win this and every other vote forever. On the other, the plays I could make with a set of Trump cards...

    The downside is that everyone will know you're holding Trump cards in your hand...
    because they're yuuuuge!
    I'm sorry.

    That's only in contrast to the tiny Trump hands you must hold them in.

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    mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    I got the Trump Bug-Out Bag and the cards were alright.

    The real winner is the harmonica it came with.

    The real real winner is my neighbors getting to listen to me play the harmonica everyday so I'm ready to duet with Tim Kaine.

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    halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Dac wrote: »
    Crayon wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Can we include "No nowcast polls"?

    Please?

    Nope!

    Nowcast polls are statistically relevant and interesting, provided you know what they are and they are placed in proper context.

    Honestly asking here-relevant to what? I just don't see it. I find my statistical relevancy of eating a ham sandwich today a bit more interesting. It changes so frequently that it feels sometimes every other post is one.

    "New nowcast projects Trump to have a X chance of winning"

    "That's X points too high!"

    "I'm scared, someone hold me."

    Every day.

    It's not terribly enlightening or illuminating. It's most helpful in examining trends, yet every single data point is posted and commented upon as if it singularly is significant.

    In truth, I find satirical articles more worthwhile.

    Every time I've personally posted the nowcast, it was with the caveat "I know it doesn't mean anything." Seeing Trump's chances go down as low as 3.6%, even knowing how temporary a dip it would be, was cool. I honestly didn't pay much attention to it when it was showing Trump as having the higher chance, because the thread spoke endlessly of the convention boost both before it happened and while it was happening.

    I like the nowcast. /shrug

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    CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited August 2016
    I guess I'm just kind of saying that we've seen where they've landed post-convention bounce and largely the area they've settled in and will likely stay around, barring any WTF bombs we can all rest easy until October that they'll likely stay within 20% of where they are now. Which means Clinton has a healthy lead and holding.

    Crayon on
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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    halkun wrote: »
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    It's more that he doesn't believe in that stuff.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    halkun wrote: »
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    It's more that he doesn't believe in that stuff.

    Which is surprising... I mean, if there's one thing Trump believes in, it's sticking his name on low-quality crap and selling it to suckers.

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    DeliciousTacosDeliciousTacos Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    I really think that he believes all the controversial headlines are working as intended, and that's all the advertising he needs.

    "All press is good press" taken to its stupidest conclusion

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    DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    If people are into Cards Against Humanity (some aren't, I'm an avid collector), they are doing an election pack with a catch.
    We’re letting America choose between two new expansion packs about either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

    At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money in support of Hillary Clinton.

    It's about halfway down the page.
    https://store.cardsagainsthumanity.com/

    Their faq says all the money goes to her pac, and get out the vote campaigns in swing states

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    AVCLub reminded me of this glorious episode in Trumps Twitter history

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    SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    If people are into Cards Against Humanity (some aren't, I'm an avid collector), they are doing an election pack with a catch.
    We’re letting America choose between two new expansion packs about either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

    At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money in support of Hillary Clinton.

    It's about halfway down the page.
    https://store.cardsagainsthumanity.com/

    Their faq says all the money goes to her pac, and get out the vote campaigns in swing states
    Mentioned on the last page.

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    davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    If people are into Cards Against Humanity (some aren't, I'm an avid collector), they are doing an election pack with a catch.
    We’re letting America choose between two new expansion packs about either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

    At the end of this promotion, Cards Against Humanity will tally up the sales of both packs, and depending on which pack gets more support, we will donate all the money in support of Hillary Clinton.

    It's about halfway down the page.
    https://store.cardsagainsthumanity.com/

    Their faq says all the money goes to her pac, and get out the vote campaigns in swing states

    This post was very thoughtful and well constructed compared to my phone posting reactionary blurb. :+1:

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    I saw a Trumpence lawn sign today. On a yard with a 'prayer is America's only hope' and a blue 'it's happening' sign which may or may not be related to Ron Paul or the End Times.

    The really odd thing is it's in a pretty swank Dallas neighborhood and is the only one. It's also really low key energy. It looks more like a yard sign for a realtor.
    There's a house in Plano I would happen to drive by from time to time about a year ago with a small, simple, white yard sign that just said "FIGHT SOCIALISM" in black letters. I haven't found an excuse to swing by that neighborhood since, but I'm reeeeeally curious to see what signs have joined it.

    My favorite yard sign story is this rural property I would always pass on my way to visit my parents in Houston. It had a "McCain/Palin" sign that was notable for two reasons: 1) it was enormous, billboard-sized almost. 2) It was at *least* 2012, if not later.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Well I bought one of each so I guess I canceled out my own vote.

    Not really. Clinton/Clinton Adjacent interests get it either way. I laughed when I saw that.

    Then lamented that it's for US citizens only.

    Now to scour my Facebook contacts for friends that live in the US but don't care about CAH (due to the 'per household' limit).

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    halkun wrote: »
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    It's more that he doesn't believe in that stuff.

    Which is surprising... I mean, if there's one thing Trump believes in, it's sticking his name on low-quality crap and selling it to suckers.

    Yeah, but if he isn't around to bask in the adulation, what's the point? His rallies are probably and end, not a means.

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    El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    halkun wrote: »
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    It's more that he doesn't believe in that stuff.

    Which is surprising... I mean, if there's one thing Trump believes in, it's sticking his name on low-quality crap and selling it to suckers.

    I think he's afraid to look like a competent politician, honestly. If he does things by the book, he'd have people wondering if he's really such an outsider candidate after all.

    That and it costs money to have a ground game, or to do ad buys. And he's already got literally millions of dollars in free advertising coming in. Plus PACs that buy stuff for him.

    ...Trump can pocket the money his campaign has left over when it's done right? I mean, he's already funneling loads of it into his various properties and such, but when November is wrapped up I can totally see him just grabbing a big old sack of donations and walking away.

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    I saw a Trumpence lawn sign today. On a yard with a 'prayer is America's only hope' and a blue 'it's happening' sign which may or may not be related to Ron Paul or the End Times.

    The really odd thing is it's in a pretty swank Dallas neighborhood and is the only one. It's also really low key energy. It looks more like a yard sign for a realtor.
    There's a house in Plano I would happen to drive by from time to time about a year ago with a small, simple, white yard sign that just said "FIGHT SOCIALISM" in black letters. I haven't found an excuse to swing by that neighborhood since, but I'm reeeeeally curious to see what signs have joined it.

    My favorite yard sign story is this rural property I would always pass on my way to visit my parents in Houston. It had a "McCain/Palin" sign that was notable for two reasons: 1) it was enormous, billboard-sized almost. 2) It was at *least* 2012, if not later.

    At least with a sign you can take those down fairly easily. Bumper stickers are even worse. Unless somebody is one of those weirdos who trades in their car for something newer every three years, it seems like a ridiculous level of commitment for something so transient.

    I've driven the same make and model car since I was 16, and I plan on driving it until the axles fall off. Having a fading KERRY/EDWARDS '04 sticker stuck on the back until the end of time just seems like it would be embarrassing.

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    Inkstain82Inkstain82 Registered User regular
    El Skid wrote: »

    ...Trump can pocket the money his campaign has left over when it's done right? I mean, he's already funneling loads of it into his various properties and such, but when November is wrapped up I can totally see him just grabbing a big old sack of donations and walking away.

    Technically he can do just about anything with it except personal use.

    Trumps gotta Trump, though, so he is going to find an incredibly unethical, almost certainly illegal way to steal the money and make it not worth people's trouble to fight him legally to get it back.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Duffel wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    I saw a Trumpence lawn sign today. On a yard with a 'prayer is America's only hope' and a blue 'it's happening' sign which may or may not be related to Ron Paul or the End Times.

    The really odd thing is it's in a pretty swank Dallas neighborhood and is the only one. It's also really low key energy. It looks more like a yard sign for a realtor.
    There's a house in Plano I would happen to drive by from time to time about a year ago with a small, simple, white yard sign that just said "FIGHT SOCIALISM" in black letters. I haven't found an excuse to swing by that neighborhood since, but I'm reeeeeally curious to see what signs have joined it.

    My favorite yard sign story is this rural property I would always pass on my way to visit my parents in Houston. It had a "McCain/Palin" sign that was notable for two reasons: 1) it was enormous, billboard-sized almost. 2) It was at *least* 2012, if not later.

    At least with a sign you can take those down fairly easily. Bumper stickers are even worse. Unless somebody is one of those weirdos who trades in their car for something newer every three years, it seems like a ridiculous level of commitment for something so transient.

    I've driven the same make and model car since I was 16, and I plan on driving it until the axles fall off. Having a fading KERRY/EDWARDS '04 sticker stuck on the back until the end of time just seems like it would be embarrassing.

    Yeah bumper stickers are something I've never trucked in. Like just this year I put mariner stickers on my car and I've been a fan of the team my entire life.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    AVCLub reminded me of this glorious episode in Trumps Twitter history

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    yeah, that was beautiful

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    tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    Duffel wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    I saw a Trumpence lawn sign today. On a yard with a 'prayer is America's only hope' and a blue 'it's happening' sign which may or may not be related to Ron Paul or the End Times.

    The really odd thing is it's in a pretty swank Dallas neighborhood and is the only one. It's also really low key energy. It looks more like a yard sign for a realtor.
    There's a house in Plano I would happen to drive by from time to time about a year ago with a small, simple, white yard sign that just said "FIGHT SOCIALISM" in black letters. I haven't found an excuse to swing by that neighborhood since, but I'm reeeeeally curious to see what signs have joined it.

    My favorite yard sign story is this rural property I would always pass on my way to visit my parents in Houston. It had a "McCain/Palin" sign that was notable for two reasons: 1) it was enormous, billboard-sized almost. 2) It was at *least* 2012, if not later.

    At least with a sign you can take those down fairly easily. Bumper stickers are even worse. Unless somebody is one of those weirdos who trades in their car for something newer every three years, it seems like a ridiculous level of commitment for something so transient.

    I've driven the same make and model car since I was 16, and I plan on driving it until the axles fall off. Having a fading KERRY/EDWARDS '04 sticker stuck on the back until the end of time just seems like it would be embarrassing.

    In 2012 on my way to work I was behind a brand new Porsche Panamera with a Herman Cain bumper sticker on it. This was about 2 weeks after he flamed out. I was torn between laughter and rage.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Four years ago, I drove with my family up to eastern Oregon to visit my inlaws. It's backwoods conservative country all the way, and there were, predictably, scores of Romney signs dotting the road side. You could go 100 miles without finding a functional indoor toilet, but you couldn't go 100 yards without seeing a Romney 2012 sign.

    We went up there again this year. Number of Trump 2016 signs we saw: zero.

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    El Skid wrote: »
    ...Trump can pocket the money his campaign has left over when it's done right? I mean, he's already funneling loads of it into his various properties and such, but when November is wrapped up I can totally see him just grabbing a big old sack of donations and walking away.

    zepherin posted a believable scheme in the last thread:
    zepherin wrote: »
    He could buy the building with campaign funds and then lease it to himself for a nominal fee. He could then pay himself from his campaign to "renovate" the building for the campaign purposes. Using Trump construction and real estate he would gain a 6% commission when he purchased the building and make a 20% markup on the renovation, and with a clever lease agreement he would be paying himself for the privilege of paying himself. Between him paying himself, construction profits, the depreciation and the real estate commission. That would be enough to offset most of the price of the building when he sold "less valuable" property back to himself at "market value."

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Four years ago, I drove with my family up to eastern Oregon to visit my inlaws. It's backwoods conservative country all the way, and there were, predictably, scores of Romney signs dotting the road side. You could go 100 miles without finding a functional indoor toilet, but you couldn't go 100 yards without seeing a Romney 2012 sign.

    We went up there again this year. Number of Trump 2016 signs we saw: zero.

    The new Obama-era conventional wisdom is campaign signs indicate wasted time and opportunity by a campaign more than actual levels of support. Instead of taking a sign it'd be better if they made 10 calls and its a cost in time and effort for the campaign to distribute them.

    In this campaign I think Trump's lack of signs is his efforts don't even reach that level

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    ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    I live in Alabama, and best thing I saw was driving past a yard that had a giant plywood board sign up that said "SIGN STOLE, VOTE TRUMP" in spray paint on it.

    I was laughing the whole rest of my drive.

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    The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    halkun wrote:
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    He is definitely low on funds; the RNC basically had to improvise together his fundraising platform.


    That's not the whole of it, though. Dead broke parties can still have a fantastic ground game. It's a whole lot of inglorious low level work; you and your team will bust your ass, and CNN isn't going to be dedicating it's afternoon segment to your great ground game efforts in return. It's easier, much more self-aggrandizing and probably far more convenient for Trump to just do the clownshoes thing and sit around on a news network set for most of a week (the trade-off being that sitting around on network sets will not actually win you an election).

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Four years ago, I drove with my family up to eastern Oregon to visit my inlaws. It's backwoods conservative country all the way, and there were, predictably, scores of Romney signs dotting the road side. You could go 100 miles without finding a functional indoor toilet, but you couldn't go 100 yards without seeing a Romney 2012 sign.

    We went up there again this year. Number of Trump 2016 signs we saw: zero.

    Careful talking about signs gets you in the Noonan zone man, no one wants to be in the noonan zone!

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Four years ago, I drove with my family up to eastern Oregon to visit my inlaws. It's backwoods conservative country all the way, and there were, predictably, scores of Romney signs dotting the road side. You could go 100 miles without finding a functional indoor toilet, but you couldn't go 100 yards without seeing a Romney 2012 sign.

    We went up there again this year. Number of Trump 2016 signs we saw: zero.

    I have yet to see any Trump signs here in Dallas, which is encouraging.

    Funnily enough, in the past week I have seen a JFK campaign billboard on my way to work. I finally figured out, from managing to catch a look at the URL they printed at the bottom of the bilboard, that it's an advertisement for a new exhibit at the Sixth Floor Museum

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    BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    I haven't seen a lot of presidential candidate signs but jesus there are tons of local election signs for commissioners, education superintendents, appraisers, etc. It's a visual blight when driving they go overboard on all the sidewalks and curbs.

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    The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    halkun wrote:
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    He is definitely low on funds; the RNC basically had to improvise together his fundraising platform.


    That's not the whole of it, though. Dead broke parties can still have a fantastic ground game. It's a whole lot of inglorious low level work; you and your team will bust your ass, and CNN isn't going to be dedicating it's afternoon segment to your great ground game efforts in return. It's easier, much more self-aggrandizing and probably far more convenient for Trump to just do the clownshoes thing and sit around on a news network set for most of a week (the trade-off being that sitting around on network sets will not actually win you an election).

    I don't understand how he could possibly be broke though - didn't he raise close to 80 million last month? And if he hasn't spend a single dime on advertising or expanding his ground game, then where would he be spending all of this mo-

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    EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Trump added eight ladies to his economics team. None of them are economists but they're not all named Stevonnie or Stephanie so strike one for diversity I guess.

    Stevonnie has better things to do, like dancing, and driving a car for the first time.

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    The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    halkun wrote:
    You know, I have a feeling you are not seeing a "ground" campaign from the Trip side is because he is straight up broke and running on GOP fumes... but no one wants to say that.

    He is definitely low on funds; the RNC basically had to improvise together his fundraising platform.


    That's not the whole of it, though. Dead broke parties can still have a fantastic ground game. It's a whole lot of inglorious low level work; you and your team will bust your ass, and CNN isn't going to be dedicating it's afternoon segment to your great ground game efforts in return. It's easier, much more self-aggrandizing and probably far more convenient for Trump to just do the clownshoes thing and sit around on a news network set for most of a week (the trade-off being that sitting around on network sets will not actually win you an election).

    I don't understand how he could possibly be broke though - didn't he raise close to 80 million last month? And if he hasn't spend a single dime on advertising or expanding his ground game, then where would he be spending all of this mo-

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    80 million doesn't go very far in a month when you consider how many voters you're trying to reach over a very large geographical area.

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    I drove past some handmade Trump signs today.

    The only places I've seen actual official Trump signs were on a couple of vacant lots and an abandoned gas station.

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