It's a little out of nowhere and doesn't fit into the film. I'm glad they cut it. And the fact the film was unharmed shows how superfluous it was.
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Are you sure it's not because the CGI is unfinished? Like, his model is there, but the lighting, shading, details, etc. are all incomplete.
oh i don't mean the cgi at all, it doesn't feel like that character should even be there, there's even more fanservice in a movie that's packed to the gills with it, it feels like fanfiction happening within the movie with the dumb 'oh look how badass these characters are' escalating showdown (and i think rey is fine in the finished product, despite other people's mary sue complaints)
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Pointless scene right here, no wonder it got cut.This feels like a george lucas thing
it doesn't expand on any of the characters involved or advance the plot. It just ties up a loose end that nobody cares about with a cheap reference. If there's any value at all in the reference it's nowhere near worth the screen time it takes up.
basically if i'd seen it in the theater it would have really knocked me out of the movie
I don't understand discussing not wanting a scene in a movie that was in fact cut before release.
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that it got as far as being filmed and having a rough cg pass before they scrapped it reflects poorly on the filmmakers ~imo~
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I thought it was harmless. The movie was one big love letter to A New Hope, for better or worse, anyway.
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Nah. It's just the nature of things. It would've been a cool callback if they made it work, and it's a credit to them that they realised it didn't and they cut it.
that it got as far as being filmed and having a rough cg pass before they scrapped it reflects poorly on the filmmakers ~imo~
Its hardly that bad of a scene though. You even said yourself that you agreed with the person who said essentially that its just kinda masturbatory. Also frankly this just supports my feelings that Star Wars fans will just compare any failure of film-making to the prequels. Also also its not fair to judge this scene in a void. Maybe their was more to that storyline that made it make more sense and the whole thing got cut.
My only issue with that scene is... how did he find her? I guess he could have had some sort of tracking device on the Falcon, but why would he bother going personally and then try to talk down a wookie
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My only issue with that scene is... how did he find her? I guess he could have had some sort of tracking device on the Falcon, but why would he bother going personally and then try to talk down a wookie
Probaboy why it got cut, to be honest.
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I like that it adds to the Star Wars universe that people are just totally nonplussed at people being killed and losing limbs in bars. It's just a thing that happens.
I like that it adds to the Star Wars universe that people are just totally nonplussed at people being killed and losing limbs in bars. It's just a thing that happens.
Anybody picks a fight, they get what's coming to them. That's the attitude on display.
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A Wampa was dismembered in Empire!
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That cut scene would have finally added the missing dismemberment to Force Awakens. It is the only Star Wars movie without a dismemberment happening.
Not true. The doors cut off the Aliens' arms as it was trying to drag Finn away.
Didn't Kylo lose a hand to Rey?
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Ep I Darth Maul - Speaks dialog
Ep II Anakin - Speaks dialog
Ep II Count Christopher Lee and Mace Windu -Both have lines
Ep IV Ponda Baba - Has alien speak lines
EP V Luke
Ep VI Darth Vader
EP VII - No one with a name or dialog spoken
This reminded me that episode 3 is the only film without a hostile monster encounter.
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General Grievous basically fills that role.
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"Droids aren't known for ripping people's arms out of their sockets when they get upset. Wookiee are known to do that.
Good point. Artoo, I suggest a new strategy: let the Wookie win"
oh i don't mean the cgi at all, it doesn't feel like that character should even be there, there's even more fanservice in a movie that's packed to the gills with it, it feels like fanfiction happening within the movie with the dumb 'oh look how badass these characters are' escalating showdown (and i think rey is fine in the finished product, despite other people's mary sue complaints)
fake edit, this commenter put it better:
basically if i'd seen it in the theater it would have really knocked me out of the movie
Its hardly that bad of a scene though. You even said yourself that you agreed with the person who said essentially that its just kinda masturbatory. Also frankly this just supports my feelings that Star Wars fans will just compare any failure of film-making to the prequels. Also also its not fair to judge this scene in a void. Maybe their was more to that storyline that made it make more sense and the whole thing got cut.
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Probaboy why it got cut, to be honest.
so they gave it a go and it didn't really feel right so they cut it
that's just how it goes sometimes, not a big deal
Turns out you actually need something to cut before cutting it.
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Like, what more do you want, they decided not to have it in the movie
We do know that the movie we got is better without that scene, and that said scene is not in the movie.
So yeah, I'd give the filmmakers the benefit of the doubt. From my limited perspective, they made the right choice.
Not true. The doors cut off the Aliens' arms as it was trying to drag Finn away.
Anybody picks a fight, they get what's coming to them. That's the attitude on display.
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I don't feel like that counts since it was a creature and not sapient like all other dismemberments in the other movies.
All others are characters that have dialog lines. The dismemberment from the cut scene fulfills that requirement.
Didn't Kylo lose a hand to Rey?
No, she gave him a backhand saber to the face.
Luke was dismembered as well.
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Ep I Darth Maul - Speaks dialog
Ep II Anakin - Speaks dialog
Ep II Count Christopher Lee and Mace Windu -Both have lines
Ep IV Ponda Baba - Has alien speak lines
EP V Luke
Ep VI Darth Vader
EP VII - No one with a name or dialog spoken
Rogue One is exempted as it is not main line.
Considering robot arms in Star Wars have feeling I count Darth Vader.
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I mean, he had an entire arm replaced. Granted, that was off screen, but it happened.
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Newly minted Darth Vader could fill the role?
Jedi toddlers are actually the alpha predator of their native homeworld...
General Grievous basically fills that role.
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If you didn't write the cheque for the scene I wouldn't worry about it