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    Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/
    Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference. The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

    Till Congress retroactively deems it classified and has the servers wiped and the folks who did it jailed or fined.

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Zython wrote: »
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Panda4You wrote: »
    "Some civil servant at GSA is going to sit down with the president of the United States' children to negotiate adjustments to a multimillion-dollar lease on an annual basis. That's incomprehensible," he says.
    A lot of things used to be. Wake up and smell the tar-filled coffee cup.

    I'm interested to find out if anything at all can put Trump voters off him. He wasn't wrong when he said he could shoot a man on 5th avenue and get away with it. It's like he's got some sort of mind control powers.

    It's not mind control. He's just willing to be openly racist.

    That's not the heart of it though. Lots of people who don't give a damn about racism (at least, not like we understand it) are Trumpers. I think the very core of his support is made up of good 'ol authoritarianism and tribalism. Racism is just a popular flavor of those.

    Tribalism definitely. I guarantee you half of the people who hate "liberals" have no idea why they hate them.

    They know exactly why they hate them. They are part of the nebulous Other, and that is all the reason they need.

    No, they hate them because liberals want to take your guns away, kill your unborn babies, let the terrorists in, and force you to gay marry. The GOP has been incredibly effective in their messaging. Prey on simple fears, create wedge issues, and tack on a bunch of other shit people don't feel the need to understand.

    It's hard to do it the other way.

    Conservatives want child labor, force you to go to church, keep "those people" in their place and bomb whoever the fuck they want?

    We cannot do it their way because liberals in general are not fear motivated. We should talk about what Democrats are for and not what the other side is against.

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    CelloCello Registered User regular
    august wrote: »
    I mean it's naive but if you're in a position to try and change Trumps mind about something that has a direct effect on people's lives, I say go for it at this point.

    If that was the honest reason then sure

    But I sincerely doubt Kanye West of all people was there to do more than put himself at the center of attention

    The tweets strike me more as an attempt to make himself look sympathetic to try and win over people who would take offense at the action of meeting Trump, in a selfish desire to get support from both sides

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    Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    So what position will Barron be occupying in the new Administration?

    The one that will be putting NYC on the hook for tens of millions of dollar for security http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/nyregion/new-york-reimburse-trump-security-costs.html

    Still say NYC should just refuse. Order all cops to stay away from fifth avenue when Trump's in town, put that 100% on the secret service.

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    august wrote: »

    Voting for a president who cares about may have been a bigger help.

    Well, voting at all maybe

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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Speaking of people going to Trump Tower:


    Oh boy.

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    AstaerethAstaereth In the belly of the beastRegistered User regular
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    So what position will Barron be occupying in the new Administration?

    The one that will be putting NYC on the hook for tens of millions of dollar for security http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/nyregion/new-york-reimburse-trump-security-costs.html

    Still say NYC should just refuse. Order all cops to stay away from fifth avenue when Trump's in town, put that 100% on the secret service.

    That's a staggeringly bad idea. We can't politicize who gets the protection of the police, especially when it comes to government leaders. If somebody suggested that the police of some inconveniced city not protect Obama you'd be rightfully pissed.

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    LoisLaneLoisLane Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Zython wrote: »
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Panda4You wrote: »
    "Some civil servant at GSA is going to sit down with the president of the United States' children to negotiate adjustments to a multimillion-dollar lease on an annual basis. That's incomprehensible," he says.
    A lot of things used to be. Wake up and smell the tar-filled coffee cup.

    I'm interested to find out if anything at all can put Trump voters off him. He wasn't wrong when he said he could shoot a man on 5th avenue and get away with it. It's like he's got some sort of mind control powers.

    It's not mind control. He's just willing to be openly racist.

    That's not the heart of it though. Lots of people who don't give a damn about racism (at least, not like we understand it) are Trumpers. I think the very core of his support is made up of good 'ol authoritarianism and tribalism. Racism is just a popular flavor of those.

    Tribalism definitely. I guarantee you half of the people who hate "liberals" have no idea why they hate them.

    They know exactly why they hate them. They are part of the nebulous Other, and that is all the reason they need.

    No, they hate them because liberals want to take your guns away, kill your unborn babies, let the terrorists in, and force you to gay marry. The GOP has been incredibly effective in their messaging. Prey on simple fears, create wedge issues, and tack on a bunch of other shit people don't feel the need to understand.

    It's hard to do it the other way.

    Conservatives want child labor, force you to go to church, keep "those people" in their place and bomb whoever the fuck they want?
    legalizing prostitution

    You sure about this one?

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    Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    So what position will Barron be occupying in the new Administration?

    The one that will be putting NYC on the hook for tens of millions of dollar for security http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/nyregion/new-york-reimburse-trump-security-costs.html

    Still say NYC should just refuse. Order all cops to stay away from fifth avenue when Trump's in town, put that 100% on the secret service.

    That's a staggeringly bad idea. We can't politicize who gets the protection of the police, especially when it comes to government leaders. If somebody suggested that the police of some inconveniced city not protect Obama you'd be rightfully pissed.

    Difference being that Obama wasn't planning on going to a highly indefensible place every week for 4-8 years.

    Democrats keep acting like the adult in the room and just get burned for it.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Zython wrote: »
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Panda4You wrote: »
    "Some civil servant at GSA is going to sit down with the president of the United States' children to negotiate adjustments to a multimillion-dollar lease on an annual basis. That's incomprehensible," he says.
    A lot of things used to be. Wake up and smell the tar-filled coffee cup.

    I'm interested to find out if anything at all can put Trump voters off him. He wasn't wrong when he said he could shoot a man on 5th avenue and get away with it. It's like he's got some sort of mind control powers.

    It's not mind control. He's just willing to be openly racist.

    That's not the heart of it though. Lots of people who don't give a damn about racism (at least, not like we understand it) are Trumpers. I think the very core of his support is made up of good 'ol authoritarianism and tribalism. Racism is just a popular flavor of those.

    Tribalism definitely. I guarantee you half of the people who hate "liberals" have no idea why they hate them.

    They know exactly why they hate them. They are part of the nebulous Other, and that is all the reason they need.

    No, they hate them because liberals want to take your guns away, kill your unborn babies, let the terrorists in, and force you to gay marry. The GOP has been incredibly effective in their messaging. Prey on simple fears, create wedge issues, and tack on a bunch of other shit people don't feel the need to understand.

    It's hard to do it the other way.

    Conservatives want child labor, force you to go to church, keep "those people" in their place and bomb whoever the fuck they want?

    Its not that hard. Don't forget "reducing wives to property, legalizing prostitution, take your video games away, ban rap music, give your job to your white boss's son...."

    Being good at creating overly reductive messaging isn't a sign that you're right about anything, it's just a sign that you can play the game effectively. There's pros and cons to this, depends if you're using your gift to be a dicknose.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/
    Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference. The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

    Till Congress retroactively deems it classified and has the servers wiped and the folks who did it jailed or fined.

    Can't. Refer to the entire Pentagon Papers stuff. Government is powerless to pull classified info away from the public,

    Also, you're suggesting an ex post facto law, which is flagrantly unconstitutional.

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    CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Speaking of people going to Trump Tower:


    Oh boy.

    Are these two people linked or is Trump just enjoying being able to summon any celebrities he likes to hang out with him in Trump Tower?

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/
    Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference. The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

    Till Congress retroactively deems it classified and has the servers wiped and the folks who did it jailed or fined.

    Can't. Refer to the entire Pentagon Papers stuff. Government is powerless to pull classified info away from the public,

    Also, you're suggesting an ex post facto law, which is flagrantly unconstitutional.

    Ask ACORN how that law against bills of attainder worked out for them.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Speaking of people going to Trump Tower:


    Oh boy.

    Are these two people linked or is Trump just enjoying being able to summon any celebrities he likes to hang out with him in Trump Tower?

    Well, Brown is a serial abuser of women, so he fits right in. Gates hates teachers unions, so that's probably that.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    So what position will Barron be occupying in the new Administration?

    Robber.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Nobody wrote: »
    august wrote: »

    Voting for a president who cares about may have been a bigger help.

    Well, voting at all maybe

    I know he's just some music guy so I shouldn't be mad because he's basically just a random human, but holy shit the smugness and the stupidity of this

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/
    Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference. The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

    Till Congress retroactively deems it classified and has the servers wiped and the folks who did it jailed or fined.

    Can't. Refer to the entire Pentagon Papers stuff. Government is powerless to pull classified info away from the public,

    Also, you're suggesting an ex post facto law, which is flagrantly unconstitutional.

    Shit in the Clinton email investigation was retroactively classified. Like two thousand emails.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    So about that infrastructure spending promised by Trump...

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/republicans-trump-obamacare-tax-cuts-232633
    Donald Trump’s White House and congressional GOP leaders are coalescing around an agenda focused on slashing taxes and repealing Obamacare early next year, a blueprint that could potentially avoid an intraparty clash over infrastructure investment early in Trump’s presidency.

    On Wednesday morning, incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus said that the GOP will concentrate on budgetary issues and health care reform in the first nine months of the year. That largely overlaps with House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s focus on tax reform and Obamacare repeal and suggests the party will spend much of its energy and momentum on those two issues.

    [...]
    Tax cuts and hatred of the ACA are the glue that binds the GOP together and must be prioritized more than anything else.

    Couscous on
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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    So what position will Barron be occupying in the new Administration?

    Robber.

    Will anyone be playing the Cops?

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/
    Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference. The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

    Till Congress retroactively deems it classified and has the servers wiped and the folks who did it jailed or fined.

    Can't. Refer to the entire Pentagon Papers stuff. Government is powerless to pull classified info away from the public,

    Also, you're suggesting an ex post facto law, which is flagrantly unconstitutional.

    Shit in the Clinton email investigation was retroactively classified. Like two thousand emails.

    Yes.. and that couldn't be used to pursue charges nor as grounds to seize any copies on non-government servers.

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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/
    Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference. The efforts include a “guerrilla archiving” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.

    Till Congress retroactively deems it classified and has the servers wiped and the folks who did it jailed or fined.

    Can't. Refer to the entire Pentagon Papers stuff. Government is powerless to pull classified info away from the public,

    Also, you're suggesting an ex post facto law, which is flagrantly unconstitutional.

    Shit in the Clinton email investigation was retroactively classified. Like two thousand emails.

    Yes.. and that couldn't be used to pursue charges nor as grounds to seize any copies on non-government servers.

    I'm not super confident that will continue to be the case after January.

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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    So what position will Barron be occupying in the new Administration?

    The one that will be putting NYC on the hook for tens of millions of dollar for security http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/nyregion/new-york-reimburse-trump-security-costs.html

    Still say NYC should just refuse. Order all cops to stay away from fifth avenue when Trump's in town, put that 100% on the secret service.

    That's a staggeringly bad idea. We can't politicize who gets the protection of the police, especially when it comes to government leaders. If somebody suggested that the police of some inconveniced city not protect Obama you'd be rightfully pissed.

    Difference being that Obama wasn't planning on going to a highly indefensible place every week for 4-8 years.

    Democrats keep acting like the adult in the room and just get burned for it.

    I would just tell him that the city viewed the visit as an unacceptable security risk and inconvenience to those around him, and that the cost was going to be prohibitive. If he paid the bills, he was welcome to come, and he was welcome to apply in advance for approval for each visit. The president is not a private citizen. He should be respectful, cautious, and considerate with where he travels.

    Honestly, the President doesn't get to go hang out in his golden palace every weekend. The white house is there for a reason. If the president wanted to go visit Bumbleville Dakota every other day, then Bumbleville couldn't afford it. Just because New York is big doesn't mean they should have to shoulder the burden of caring for a President who refuses to stay in the mansion the public built for him.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It is an article of faith among many tech leaders than less regulations=more and better innovation so I am not surprised.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-twitter-emoji-crooked-hillary-232647
    Twitter was told it was "bounced" from Wednesday's meeting between tech executives and President-elect Donald Trump in retribution for refusing during the campaign to allow an emoji version of the hashtag #CrookedHillary, according to a source close to the situation.

    Twitter is one of the few major U.S. tech companies not represented at Wednesday afternoon's Trump Tower meeting attended by, among others, Apple's Tim Cook, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg and Tesla's Elon Musk — an omission all the more striking because of Trump's heavy dependence on the Twitter platform. With some 17.3 million followers of his account, the president-elect has made Twitter into the de facto press channel of his transition operation.

    [...]
    I am not sure if there is a way for them to be more petty and thin skinned.

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

    Goddammit. Has everyone lost their fucking minds?

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    Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”
    Well there goes any respect I had for Gates.
    He's either extremely cynical or just completely insane.

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    Nobody wrote: »
    august wrote: »

    Voting for a president who cares about may have been a bigger help.

    Well, voting at all maybe

    Kanye needs to be ignored for his own good. His grandiose narcissism is probably going to put him in the psych ward again. He isn't acting like he's learned anything from his mistakes.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

    Goddammit. Has everyone lost their fucking minds?

    When was Gates not an asshole?

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    There's also the fact that Twitter has been quietly banning a lot of Trump's "Internet People" as a result of Twitter's new policy of "if you @ at someone and they report you for harassment you are out".

    Silicon Valley was pretty much pro-Clinton since she seemed the obvious winner, but now they are pretty much scrambling to see who gets on their knees first:
    Alphabet’s Google is racing to hire more conservatives for its lobbying and policy arm, trying to get a foothold in President-elect Donald Trump’s Washington after enjoying a uniquely close relationship with the administration of President Barack Obama.

    In the weeks since the Nov. 8 election, Google has ramped up efforts to hire Republican lobbying firms and in-house lobbyists to change the composition of its Washington office, according to three lobbyists with knowledge of the matter.

    The company also posted an advertisement for a manager for conservative outreach and public policy partnership, seeking a "liaison to conservative, libertarian and free market groups."

    While the position is not new, it gives Google a chance to make a hire that reflects the new political climate. Conservatives already are represented in the office.
    Liberal-leaning Silicon Valley bet heavily on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton winning the White House, and many technology companies have found themselves scrambling in the wake of Trump's election. But Google, which forged deep ties to the Obama White House and was the largest corporate contributor to Clinton's campaign, appears to have been caught especially off guard, Washington insiders said.

    Only 33 employees of Google and its parent company Alphabet donated $201 or more to Trump, for a total of $23,300. Clinton received donations from 1,359 Google or Alphabet employees for a total of $1.6 million. Google NetPAC, the company's political action committee, made 56 percent of its contributions to Republicans in the 2016 election cycle, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics.

    During Obama's presidency, more than 250 people moved between jobs at Google or related firms and the federal government, national political campaigns and Congress, according to a report this year by the Campaign for Accountability, a watchdog group. The company notched several wins during the administration, including favorable policies on net neutrality.

    Google seemed poised to enjoy similar treatment under a Clinton administration. Schmidt was seen wearing a staff badge at Clinton's election night party, a sign of their close relationship. But those ties are now something of a liability as the company tries to re-position its presence, lobbyists said.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

    Goddammit. Has everyone lost their fucking minds?

    When was Gates not an asshole?

    When he gave shittons of money to charity, all the time?

    When he signed living wills to give the bulk of his billions to charity when he passes, and made an organization to convince other CEOs to do the same?

    But yeah, he took a picture with a president elect who is approachable with famous people hopefully in order to maybe try and convince him of something so of course he's an asshole.

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    Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

    Goddammit. Has everyone lost their fucking minds?

    When was Gates not an asshole?

    I dunno, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is pretty fuckin rad. That buys some slack in my book.

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

    Goddammit. Has everyone lost their fucking minds?

    When was Gates not an asshole?

    When he gave shittons of money to charity, all the time?

    When he signed living wills to give the bulk of his billions to charity when he passes, and made an organization to convince other CEOs to do the same?

    But yeah, he took a picture with a president elect who is approachable with famous people hopefully in order to maybe try and convince him of something so of course he's an asshole.

    Those billions were earned because he charges us $100 or more for a copy of windows. That he's giving away half of his money means he could have just charged us less than an arm and a leg, engaged in less monopolistic practices, etc.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Maximum wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Bill Gates sings Trump's praises:
    Bill Gates said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump’s potential to bring innovation to the U.S. resembles that of President John F. Kennedy’s.

    Gates, the billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist, told CNBC that Trump can lead the U.S. “through innovation” and compared Trump’s ideas to Kennedy’s expansion of the U.S. space program in the early 1960s.

    “But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think whether it’s education or stopping epidemics … [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump’s] administration [is] going to organizing things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation,” Gates said.

    Gates, who recently spoke to Trump for the first time on the phone, said he expects to be in touch with the president-elect again in the future.
    “Of course, my whole career has been along those lines,” Gates said of innovation. “And he was interested in listening to that. And I’m sure there will be further conversation.”

    Goddammit. Has everyone lost their fucking minds?

    When was Gates not an asshole?

    When he gave shittons of money to charity, all the time?

    When he signed living wills to give the bulk of his billions to charity when he passes, and made an organization to convince other CEOs to do the same?

    But yeah, he took a picture with a president elect who is approachable with famous people hopefully in order to maybe try and convince him of something so of course he's an asshole.

    Those billions were earned because he charges us $100 or more for a copy of windows. That he's giving away half of his money means he could have just charged us less than an arm and a leg, engaged in less monopolistic practices, etc.

    Yes, this makes perfect sense. Because everything should be free then he'd still have BILLIONS of dollars to give to charities and single highhandedly provide medicine, school (not religion based mind you), and technology to third world countries.

    Sorry you had to pay for Windows.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    His education initiatives are terrible. Which undercuts a lot of the good will from his foundation.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    One thing I've often read describing Trump is that he is always impressed by and impressionable to the last person he met or talked to. So it honestly doesn't surprise me when someone like Gates meets with him and in their discussion Trump sounds amenable and open and reasonable, and then Gates leaves and says things went well and he's hopeful and Trump goes back to his hive of scum and villainy and resets to asshole mode.

    Cog on
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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    There's also the fact that Twitter has been quietly banning a lot of Trump's "Internet People" as a result of Twitter's new policy of "if you @ at someone and they report you for harassment you are out".

    They need to ban Trump.

    I'm serious. He's basically weaponized their platform. Anyone he tweets about with anything less than praise starts getting death threats. He knows what his followers are like.

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    kaidkaid Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    It is an article of faith among many tech leaders than less regulations=more and better innovation so I am not surprised.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-twitter-emoji-crooked-hillary-232647
    Twitter was told it was "bounced" from Wednesday's meeting between tech executives and President-elect Donald Trump in retribution for refusing during the campaign to allow an emoji version of the hashtag #CrookedHillary, according to a source close to the situation.

    Twitter is one of the few major U.S. tech companies not represented at Wednesday afternoon's Trump Tower meeting attended by, among others, Apple's Tim Cook, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg and Tesla's Elon Musk — an omission all the more striking because of Trump's heavy dependence on the Twitter platform. With some 17.3 million followers of his account, the president-elect has made Twitter into the de facto press channel of his transition operation.

    [...]
    I am not sure if there is a way for them to be more petty and thin skinned.

    Twitters should respond by banning his account.

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    There's also the fact that Twitter has been quietly banning a lot of Trump's "Internet People" as a result of Twitter's new policy of "if you @ at someone and they report you for harassment you are out".

    They need to ban Trump.

    I'm serious. He's basically weaponized their platform. Anyone he tweets about with anything less than praise starts getting death threats. He knows what his followers are like.

    I'm pretty sure that they don't want to go out of business though.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    There's also the fact that Twitter has been quietly banning a lot of Trump's "Internet People" as a result of Twitter's new policy of "if you @ at someone and they report you for harassment you are out".

    They need to ban Trump.

    I'm serious. He's basically weaponized their platform. Anyone he tweets about with anything less than praise starts getting death threats. He knows what his followers are like.

    I'm pretty sure that they don't want to go out of business though.

    What's he gonna do. Tweet mean things at them with no account?

    Or maybe he'd actually hold a press conference for once.

    Maybe a temp ban. Because if he keeps this up he's gonna get someone killed.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    There's also the fact that Twitter has been quietly banning a lot of Trump's "Internet People" as a result of Twitter's new policy of "if you @ at someone and they report you for harassment you are out".

    They need to ban Trump.

    I'm serious. He's basically weaponized their platform. Anyone he tweets about with anything less than praise starts getting death threats. He knows what his followers are like.

    I'm pretty sure that they don't want to go out of business though.

    What business? Did they finally make it imto the black?

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