So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
Make all the signs say "Town Hall".
Even better, set up a nice lectern and small PA system outside their office buildings, get a couple of mics for the crowd and make them do the town hall in the parking lot.
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I'm beginning to feel that the ACA repeal (partial or whole) is not going to happen until one of two things happens:
1.) Trump hits a scandal that is big enough that the three lesser scandals that follow it in the following two weeks are not salacious enough to dislodge it and he demands some sort of cover.
2.) The 2018 election is close and the GOP panics as they start getting called out by party faithful for failing to act on their "One Job" and something that is done entirely in haste goes through.
#1 is a good possibility to happen.
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So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
As cool as that would be, apparently Mitch is leading the way by having his office hours be invite, ticketed events only. Source
Apparently, they don't like the idea that their constitutes might be upset with them or that there is more than a single group of people (white males) they have to please.
It is, however, notable that this is another play out of the fascists handbook. By removing avenues whereby citizens can peaceably air grievances it does ratchet up the probabilities that non-peaceful methods will be contemplated and used, thus necessitating another crackdown on those unruly sorts. You don't even have to look that far for things being prepared for such. The language used by the GOP memo is already there and not subtly. "Organized mob", "clear demonstration of violence", "disruptive behavior" being used to characterize the people at Chaffetz's townhall. People who had only this venue to get answers from a man who clearly didn't want to give them.
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So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
As cool as that would be, apparently Mitch is leading the way by having his office hours be invite, ticketed events only. Source
Apparently, they don't like the idea that their constitutes might be upset with them or that there is more than a single group of people (white males) they have to please.
It is, however, notable that this is another play out of the fascists handbook. By removing avenues whereby citizens can peaceably air grievances it does ratchet up the probabilities that non-peaceful methods will be contemplated and used, thus necessitating another crackdown on those unruly sorts. You don't even have to look that far for things being prepared for such. The language used by the GOP memo is already there and not subtly. "Organized mob", "clear demonstration of violence", "disruptive behavior" being used to characterize the people at Chaffetz's townhall. People who had only this venue to get answers from a man who clearly didn't want to give them.
I'd say that removing their ability to do town halls is still valuable.
Angry white males can be effectively considered to be already voting for them 100%. Marketting to them is pointless, and that is all an invite only town hall will be. Town halls are an opportunity for them to build one on one personal relationships with wavering voters to hold them into personally voting for them. Without them, those wavering voters may drift either way.
Honestly what the democrats should do is just host open town halls in the districts where the Representative is refusing to do them, and put someone from the party there to take questions and seem happy, friendly and reasonable. Invite the Representative and conspicuously have an empty seat for him.
So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
As cool as that would be, apparently Mitch is leading the way by having his office hours be invite, ticketed events only. Source
Apparently, they don't like the idea that their constitutes might be upset with them or that there is more than a single group of people (white males) they have to please.
It is, however, notable that this is another play out of the fascists handbook. By removing avenues whereby citizens can peaceably air grievances it does ratchet up the probabilities that non-peaceful methods will be contemplated and used, thus necessitating another crackdown on those unruly sorts. You don't even have to look that far for things being prepared for such. The language used by the GOP memo is already there and not subtly. "Organized mob", "clear demonstration of violence", "disruptive behavior" being used to characterize the people at Chaffetz's townhall. People who had only this venue to get answers from a man who clearly didn't want to give them.
I'd say that removing their ability to do town halls is still valuable.
Angry white males can be effectively considered to be already voting for them 100%. Marketting to them is pointless, and that is all an invite only town hall will be. Town halls are an opportunity for them to build one on one personal relationships with wavering voters to hold them into personally voting for them. Without them, those wavering voters may drift either way.
Honestly what the democrats should do is just host open town halls in the districts where the Representative is refusing to do them, and put someone from the party there to take questions and seem happy, friendly and reasonable. Invite the Representative and conspicuously have an empty seat for him.
Would be a good way to groom for possible candidates. Even in the hopeless races, they at least need candidates who can get the platform out.
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There are plans during the recess to do just that--people are planning their own town halls, inviting their representatives, and bringing cardboard cutouts for those who don't show.
So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
As cool as that would be, apparently Mitch is leading the way by having his office hours be invite, ticketed events only. Source
Apparently, they don't like the idea that their constitutes might be upset with them or that there is more than a single group of people (white males) they have to please.
It is, however, notable that this is another play out of the fascists handbook. By removing avenues whereby citizens can peaceably air grievances it does ratchet up the probabilities that non-peaceful methods will be contemplated and used, thus necessitating another crackdown on those unruly sorts. You don't even have to look that far for things being prepared for such. The language used by the GOP memo is already there and not subtly. "Organized mob", "clear demonstration of violence", "disruptive behavior" being used to characterize the people at Chaffetz's townhall. People who had only this venue to get answers from a man who clearly didn't want to give them.
I'd say that removing their ability to do town halls is still valuable.
Angry white males can be effectively considered to be already voting for them 100%. Marketting to them is pointless, and that is all an invite only town hall will be. Town halls are an opportunity for them to build one on one personal relationships with wavering voters to hold them into personally voting for them. Without them, those wavering voters may drift either way.
Honestly what the democrats should do is just host open town halls in the districts where the Representative is refusing to do them, and put someone from the party there to take questions and seem happy, friendly and reasonable. Invite the Representative and conspicuously have an empty seat for him.
Would be a good way to groom for possible candidates. Even in the hopeless races, they at least need candidates who can get the platform out.
And the big thing we always forget as democrats is that hopeless races are only hopeless today. If we can spend $1000 and generate 20 democratic votes in an area which Democrats lose by 2000 votes, it still makes it harder to gerrymander the vote away in the future. Every single democrat makes the job of suppressing us harder. Those 20 new democrats in each of the heavily R leaning districts might mean that the Republicans do one seat worse at state level gerrymandering the next year, because the Democratic vote is now a little bit more distributed.
It might also create a new white democrat, who can broadcast the worst voter suppression atrocities to their friends and family.
There are plans during the recess to do just that--people are planning their own town halls, inviting their representatives, and bringing cardboard cutouts for those who don't show.
They need to make sure they are well marketed and bring the local news. Find at least SOMEONE notable to be smiling and nodding as the representative of the Democratic party.
There are plans during the recess to do just that--people are planning their own town halls, inviting their representatives, and bringing cardboard cutouts for those who don't show.
They need to make sure they are well marketed and bring the local news. Find at least SOMEONE notable to be smiling and nodding as the representative of the Democratic party.
Local news should be super excited to cover angry constituents
There are plans during the recess to do just that--people are planning their own town halls, inviting their representatives, and bringing cardboard cutouts for those who don't show.
They need to make sure they are well marketed and bring the local news. Find at least SOMEONE notable to be smiling and nodding as the representative of the Democratic party.
Local news should be super excited to cover angry constituents
Indeed, and they should welcome republicans too. Since we are out of power, we have the ultimate weapon...
"I understand your concerns and really do want to help with [INSERT WHATEVER ASPECT OF THE REPUBLICANS COMPLAINT MAKES AT LEAST SOME SENSE]. Unfortunately, your representative didn't want to talk to you today, he's too busy dealing with his big donors from what I hear. No time for the voters. Still, I'm going to work hard to make sure he hears your concerns and stops ignoring them. If you want more infomation, please contact my friends at [LOCAL DEMOCRATIC CLUB WHO CAN PROVIDE PAMPHLETS AND A FREE CAKE] and they would love to tell you what we Democrats want to do to help you."
So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
Make all the signs say "Town Hall".
Even better, set up a nice lectern and small PA system outside their office buildings, get a couple of mics for the crowd and make them do the town hall in the parking lot.
The Pod Save America guys were talking about this as a tactic. Some of the seasoned protestors now involved in this anti-Republican stuff since the inauguration are saying a good tactic here is to basically set up your own townhall of sorts, invite your Rep and then have the event. If they show up, hey, real townhall. If not, you get alot of people together to see that their Rep doesn't care and you can get that shit into the local media.
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Crossposting from another thread: looks like people are already on the "make our own town hall" plan. Resistance Recess has a list of town halls that are still planned, and if the Congresscritters are too cowardly to do one, they have rallies planned at Congressional offices around the country to make their own.
HR 899 was introduced Tuesday by Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Kentucky, and is composed of just one line: "The Department of Education shall terminate on December 31, 2018." Chaffetz co-sponsored the bill along with six other representatives.
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Bills set up to take effect immediately after the midterms. Those cowardly fucks.
Fuck the GOP is all I have to say on the agency termination bills. I can only hope the Senate GOP isn't nearly as shitty as the House GOP and these shitty bills go nowhere if they even make it out of the house.
Fuck the GOP is all I have to say on the agency termination bills. I can only hope the Senate GOP isn't nearly as shitty as the House GOP and these shitty bills go nowhere if they even make it out of the house.
Pretty sure there is 0 chance of it getting through the Senate thanks to the fillibuster, and enough GoP Senators who are sane enough to know they won't always be the majority, especially if they nuke it to kill public education.
Fuck the GOP is all I have to say on the agency termination bills. I can only hope the Senate GOP isn't nearly as shitty as the House GOP and these shitty bills go nowhere if they even make it out of the house.
Pretty sure there is 0 chance of it getting through the Senate thanks to the fillibuster, and enough GoP Senators who are sane enough to know they won't always be the majority, especially if they nuke it to kill public education.
On the other hand the senators are (by design) considerably more shielded from electoral backlash than the representatives who are pushing for this..
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There's no other word for them. They're scared of Muslims, they're scared of immigrants, they're scared of Trump and now they're scared of their own freaking constituencies. Their every piece of legislation is driven by either fear of change, fear of "others", or fear that they're losing their place on top of the pile and desperately need to fuck over as many people as possible to keep it. "Cowardice" hardly begins to cover it.
Hah, I stopped just short of ending my post with exactly that because it sounded better in my head than it looked when I actually typed it out, but I would have no problem if this became a thing. Because they fucking are.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) says the House GOP tax plan that Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) tried to sell to Senate Republicans won’t get 10 votes in the upper chamber.
If Graham is correct, it’ll be a blow for Ryan and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady (R-Texas), who are pushing a 20 percent across-the-board tax increase on imports to pay for comprehensive tax reform.
The idea has run into staunch resistance in the Senate, which bodes ill for President Trump’s hopes of passing tax reform this year.
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Fine with me. Let them underestimate how angry people are getting for as long as possible.
The deeper the holes they dig before realizing that what use to be safe Republican seats might not be so safe anymore, the better.
nah, that's what the years of gerrymandering were for
So new plan - find out when they'll be at their offices, and show up with an angry, screaming, sign-waving mob and local newsfolk?
Make all the signs say "Town Hall".
Even better, set up a nice lectern and small PA system outside their office buildings, get a couple of mics for the crowd and make them do the town hall in the parking lot.
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#1 is a good possibility to happen.
As cool as that would be, apparently Mitch is leading the way by having his office hours be invite, ticketed events only. Source
Apparently, they don't like the idea that their constitutes might be upset with them or that there is more than a single group of people (white males) they have to please.
It is, however, notable that this is another play out of the fascists handbook. By removing avenues whereby citizens can peaceably air grievances it does ratchet up the probabilities that non-peaceful methods will be contemplated and used, thus necessitating another crackdown on those unruly sorts. You don't even have to look that far for things being prepared for such. The language used by the GOP memo is already there and not subtly. "Organized mob", "clear demonstration of violence", "disruptive behavior" being used to characterize the people at Chaffetz's townhall. People who had only this venue to get answers from a man who clearly didn't want to give them.
I'd say that removing their ability to do town halls is still valuable.
Angry white males can be effectively considered to be already voting for them 100%. Marketting to them is pointless, and that is all an invite only town hall will be. Town halls are an opportunity for them to build one on one personal relationships with wavering voters to hold them into personally voting for them. Without them, those wavering voters may drift either way.
Honestly what the democrats should do is just host open town halls in the districts where the Representative is refusing to do them, and put someone from the party there to take questions and seem happy, friendly and reasonable. Invite the Representative and conspicuously have an empty seat for him.
Would be a good way to groom for possible candidates. Even in the hopeless races, they at least need candidates who can get the platform out.
Occupy their offices?
And the big thing we always forget as democrats is that hopeless races are only hopeless today. If we can spend $1000 and generate 20 democratic votes in an area which Democrats lose by 2000 votes, it still makes it harder to gerrymander the vote away in the future. Every single democrat makes the job of suppressing us harder. Those 20 new democrats in each of the heavily R leaning districts might mean that the Republicans do one seat worse at state level gerrymandering the next year, because the Democratic vote is now a little bit more distributed.
It might also create a new white democrat, who can broadcast the worst voter suppression atrocities to their friends and family.
They need to make sure they are well marketed and bring the local news. Find at least SOMEONE notable to be smiling and nodding as the representative of the Democratic party.
Local news should be super excited to cover angry constituents
Indeed, and they should welcome republicans too. Since we are out of power, we have the ultimate weapon...
"I understand your concerns and really do want to help with [INSERT WHATEVER ASPECT OF THE REPUBLICANS COMPLAINT MAKES AT LEAST SOME SENSE]. Unfortunately, your representative didn't want to talk to you today, he's too busy dealing with his big donors from what I hear. No time for the voters. Still, I'm going to work hard to make sure he hears your concerns and stops ignoring them. If you want more infomation, please contact my friends at [LOCAL DEMOCRATIC CLUB WHO CAN PROVIDE PAMPHLETS AND A FREE CAKE] and they would love to tell you what we Democrats want to do to help you."
The Pod Save America guys were talking about this as a tactic. Some of the seasoned protestors now involved in this anti-Republican stuff since the inauguration are saying a good tactic here is to basically set up your own townhall of sorts, invite your Rep and then have the event. If they show up, hey, real townhall. If not, you get alot of people together to see that their Rep doesn't care and you can get that shit into the local media.
Now we have one for the Department of Education, co-sponsored by Jason Chaafetz!
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Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
Pretty sure there is 0 chance of it getting through the Senate thanks to the fillibuster, and enough GoP Senators who are sane enough to know they won't always be the majority, especially if they nuke it to kill public education.
Right? Right?????
On the other hand the senators are (by design) considerably more shielded from electoral backlash than the representatives who are pushing for this..
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There's no other word for them. They're scared of Muslims, they're scared of immigrants, they're scared of Trump and now they're scared of their own freaking constituencies. Their every piece of legislation is driven by either fear of change, fear of "others", or fear that they're losing their place on top of the pile and desperately need to fuck over as many people as possible to keep it. "Cowardice" hardly begins to cover it.
Hah, I stopped just short of ending my post with exactly that because it sounded better in my head than it looked when I actually typed it out, but I would have no problem if this became a thing. Because they fucking are.
Graham: Ryan tax plan won’t get 10 votes in the Senate
Plus it's an easy soundbite: CONGRESSMAN {X} RAISED TAXES ON YOU 20% WHILE TAKING AWAY YOUR HEALTHCARE.
No way does that get passed and stick for longer than one election cycle. All of corporate America would be against you.
So watching Republicans vote it down would be kind of surreal given the last month.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I mean, it is very stupid. You could almost, but not quite, raise the price of every single item on Wal-Mart's shelves by 20%.
Assuming we could get the blame properly located (we can't), it would be a great way to lock up elections.
Remember kids the Democratic Party is the Party of Taxes. Tax and Spend! Tax and Spend!
Amazing how these memes never die.
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It is probably the most regressive tax proposal in years.
It's all part of the plan to put us on the Continental system, if it was good enough for Napoleon, it's good enough for Trump.
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