And I understand that this was probably an easy change to make, but having them "fix" something that I like over the thousand things that I would like them to fix doesn't feel all that great.
good news- they have not stopped chattering today
They have a huge list and some great things coming.
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Can anyone confirm they have gotton Look Up as a squad member? I've gotten credit for one kill and one kill only and that one was when I was squad leader.
Can anyone confirm they have gotton Look Up as a squad member? I've gotten credit for one kill and one kill only and that one was when I was squad leader.
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The game is also one sale for, I think all platforms, for $30. I'm still on the fence about picking it up as a medic main from BF1 though. I'm wondering if my rushing the point guns blazing and not playing from range style is going to work anymore. I'm more concerned about playing to point, doling out healing, and getting revives than worrying about why my k/d ratio is.
That's the only way to play Medic in V for the most part, so, go for it? Follow your guys in .
Just throw lots of smoke on the way in
This right here. It seems like smoke in this one is both far more effective and far more important than before. Assaulting anything that’s actively defended without a smoke screen to run behind is not gonna work.
Awesome. I guess I technically played my class wrong in BF1 but it sure as hell worked well for me. Nice to know that now it's the 'right' was in BFV.
"We wanted to bring new people into BF5, so we decided the best thing to do was throw out an untested massive change onto the live servers, because there's no way that could ever cause public outcry that would undermine the whole point of the changes."
More and more I start to wonder if the industry has been infiltrated by aliens.
Remember how everyone absolutely loved BC2? (I know I did!). The TTK in that game is huge, but you're also so much slower, and you can't go prone.
Something I felt that BF1 did that didn't help is that you're so mobile, I sometimes feel like I'm playing Titanfall with just how fast you can sprint from one spot to another, so I assume that you need to lower TTK when everything is moving so fast.
BFV looks to be even faster, but I haven't played (I'm all for getting a 10 hour trial though, wink wink) to form my own opinion on that, but they might have to slowdown gameplay a bit instead of messing around with damage values.
In my experience insta deaths were even more prevalent with the failed TTK. It was really noticeable, and I am beyond elated that they are changing it back.
Sacrificing your vision to pander some fickle portions of playerbase is not worth destroying your relationship with the core base.
DICE has been really active with their responses during V's launch and beyond. They are actively listening to the community (TTK fail was one of the only bigger oversights, and I wonder how much of that was because of some higher up at EA).
Remember how everyone absolutely loved BC2? (I know I did!). The TTK in that game is huge, but you're also so much slower, and you can't go prone.
Something I felt that BF1 did that didn't help is that you're so mobile, I sometimes feel like I'm playing Titanfall with just how fast you can sprint from one spot to another, so I assume that you need to lower TTK when everything is moving so fast.
BFV looks to be even faster, but I haven't played (I'm all for getting a 10 hour trial though, wink wink) to form my own opinion on that, but they might have to slowdown gameplay a bit instead of messing around with damage values.
Did you ever try Origin Access in the past? It says you're ineligible for the Refer-A-Friend trial (unless that's telling me that somebody else already sent you a referral trial).
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Ugh. Several games where the squad leaders could have called in a V1 at the end and just didn't do it.
Ugh. Several games where the squad leaders could have called in a V1 at the end and just didn't do it.
I've been in situations where other squad leaders use it before I can get the chance. Also, sometimes the rush to get into a good position can leave me dead on the ground unable to do the request in time.
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Monkey Ball WarriorA collection of mediocre hatsSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited December 2018
The drama probably could have been entirely averted by simply swapping the UI around. Instead of default new ttk and a "Core" playlist with old ttk values, what they could have done was make a "Casual" playlist with the new ttk values and left the main playlist as is. Then they could have gathered valuable data and feedback before messing with the primary queue. Then the most one could have complained about was misallocated resources (why this and not that).
Still it is good that they can recognize when they've made a mistake and roll back. Not every game dev team is willing and able to do that.
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People are way overreacting. I've been busy so I haven't played much lately but me and my mates got a session in this weekend with the new TTK. I literally didn't notice any difference to the game, and we finished rounds with stats like 20 - 3 and such, so it's not like we're just faffing about.
But then again I have no idea what the internet is talking about anytime there's "failed patches", "betrayals", "ruined games", "insulting your core players" going around. And I'm pretty much 100% a gamer nerd.
I developed a muscle memory for the original TTK, I knew how long I should fire to kill an enemy. New TTK destroyed that instinct since it took longer to kill. Enemy often was left with few hit points. And it felt like shooting pellets, you had to shoot so many more bullets to actually kill (not every bullet hits, at least not mine). There were many occasions when people could get away with running in an open field and survive. Original TTK made sure that it was a lot harder to do that.
And it should be just like that. Promote thinking and tactics instead of twitchy shooter reflexes. A smart player wins most of the time in this game.
I love DICE, and for me this was the only big blunder the made with V. I am happy that they reverted it back. They listened to us original fans of the series, people who have been playing these games from the very beginning. V feels like the old Battlefields, and I couldn't be happier.
They just have to fix assignments next, damn they can be a mess sometimes.
People are way overreacting. I've been busy so I haven't played much lately but me and my mates got a session in this weekend with the new TTK. I literally didn't notice any difference to the game, and we finished rounds with stats like 20 - 3 and such, so it's not like we're just faffing about.
But then again I have no idea what the internet is talking about anytime there's "failed patches", "betrayals", "ruined games", "insulting your core players" going around. And I'm pretty much 100% a gamer nerd.
The minority of people screaming and yelling online, demanding refunds and the clickbait youtube videos are overreacting. I agree. The TTK change did actively make the game worse though. It didn't ruin it, but for me (and lots of other folks) the game felt way less fun to play. Flanking was less rewarding, and people you got the drop on had time to react and run away, which just feels bad.
Super glad they're reverting it back, though I would've been happy with just the separate core list too. And it didn't ruin the game or whatever, but the change did set a troubling precedent with DICE and this game. They don't care how their dedicated player base is enjoying the game, they'll make whatever changes they want with no explanation, in the service of trying to milk more money out of people.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
Ugh. Several games where the squad leaders could have called in a V1 at the end and just didn't do it.
I celebrated the end of the TTK with another great night. Got a personal best Assault 3.37 K/D with two Tiger tank kills and shooting down a bomber with a Panzerfaust(!!). Also got best squad and dropped a V2 on a point on Twisted Steel, killing two people, so I hope I got the Ratburner for someone else in the squad. Actually had a squad mate shooting at me when I had 55k requisition in what I assume was an effort to get me to drop the V2, but it was like, HEY, there's no good place to drop it yet!
The best squad finished out my last thing I needed for the weeks worth of campaign points. My scores got a LOT better with the new TTK, we'll see if the lowered TTK drops me.
Flanking actually wasn't an issue for me with the new TTK. Just shoot 'em in the head .
I also saw I had the Ribeyrolles 1918 unlocked. Is that the level 20 weapon / where'd that come from? Working on finishing the Mint of the StG so it'll be a bit....
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I bought a nice cloth hat for the germans and a winter brodie for my brits. I enjoy dressing up my guys.
There is one allied outfit for sale that actually has the proper British M1937 ammo pouches basically all the infantry wore but it is out of my price range.
People are way overreacting. I've been busy so I haven't played much lately but me and my mates got a session in this weekend with the new TTK. I literally didn't notice any difference to the game, and we finished rounds with stats like 20 - 3 and such, so it's not like we're just faffing about.
But then again I have no idea what the internet is talking about anytime there's "failed patches", "betrayals", "ruined games", "insulting your core players" going around. And I'm pretty much 100% a gamer nerd.
The minority of people screaming and yelling online, demanding refunds and the clickbait youtube videos are overreacting. I agree. The TTK change did actively make the game worse though. It didn't ruin it, but for me (and lots of other folks) the game felt way less fun to play. Flanking was less rewarding, and people you got the drop on had time to react and run away, which just feels bad.
Super glad they're reverting it back, though I would've been happy with just the separate core list too. And it didn't ruin the game or whatever, but the change did set a troubling precedent with DICE and this game. They don't care how their dedicated player base is enjoying the game, they'll make whatever changes they want with no explanation, in the service of trying to milk more money out of people.
So I think they have done the MTX more correct with this one since it’s outfits and gun skins. I wish you could just pick from a catalog vs these features things. I just end up buying nothing because I don’t know what’s available next.
Re the changes, I don’t know wtf to think from anyone. It’s obvious DICE takes cues from some manager types, just look at Star Wars. They had all the game bits in #2 to make it great and someone managed to eff that up. So this one they learned but I really wish they’d socialize changes before rolling them out with a test server or something so they don’t get this giant blowback all the time. I do know why they had to make this the default so their target new players would play, but a test server would get them some early feedback without all the internet gnashing of teeth.
This can be a great game but they keep pushing modes that I personally don’t care for, like grand operations, and they want to add more. I just hope I can find a match here in 6 months.
I'm willing to tolerate the cosmetics shop (not like I have a choice) as it is, since it's better than RNG loot boxes. They really need to start pumping out some worthwhile stiff, though. Everything is so boring looking, IMO. Nothing I've seen so far makes me want to drop cash on battlecoins or whatever they are. I mean, I know I can't right now anyway but they need to step it up if they're trying to entice people to spend money.
They're probably in a rough spot there, since people had a fit about the cooler looking stuff from the reveal and beta because it was too wacky or something. I want cool facemasks, colorful facepaints, and stuff like the sniper lady's prosthetic arm, though. Gimmie some sweet, visually interesting stuff to spend money on and I'll do it.
I did notice a rather large increase in the amount of time it took to find a game of Domination on PS4 after the TTK change. Hopefully it picks back up once the change is reverted.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
It'll be shown in the Armory that a new weapon was unlocked.
So just the dot, no explanation or enforcing the present idea.
Yay for the weapon, but they should take more credit for it.
Yeah. The only time it's shown what, specifically, got added is when you actually go into the Armory. On the main Armory page, it'll show that the weapon was "Claimed." That's it...no fanfare, no flipping of cards like in BF4 or opening of crates.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they put.. something in the UI, I feel like it was similar when they handed out silver M1911s to origin access subscribers on PC, I think I got the gun 2-3 days before the game said a thing about why.
Rickeyrolls is my favourite Assault weapon. It fits my playstyle perfectly. I like that it has a bipod.
It has a nice ROF, bipotted it is accurate af and it just feels so damn nice to shoot. Just last match I got the Assault mastery where you need 10 kills in one life, got like 14 just by setting that gun down near the E flag in Twisted steel. So good. First time I didn't have any doubt if I can complete the assignment. Been trying it for days now.
I love PIAT too, it is novel and you can lob shells behind cover. So good. Against tanks I get dings a lot, but meh. I have dynamite for them.
I don't like those gold skins, and I think that I'll just drop every Mastery gun assignment that feels hard to get. No point in torturing myself when the reward sucks. Class mastery is nicer, pretty damn cool clothes. Whole suits not so good, but mix&match is legit in this game. I have some pretty old boys in my company now.
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I'm willing to tolerate the cosmetics shop (not like I have a choice) as it is, since it's better than RNG loot boxes. They really need to start pumping out some worthwhile stiff, though. Everything is so boring looking, IMO. Nothing I've seen so far makes me want to drop cash on battlecoins or whatever they are. I mean, I know I can't right now anyway but they need to step it up if they're trying to entice people to spend money.
They're probably in a rough spot there, since people had a fit about the cooler looking stuff from the reveal and beta because it was too wacky or something. I want cool facemasks, colorful facepaints, and stuff like the sniper lady's prosthetic arm, though. Gimmie some sweet, visually interesting stuff to spend money on and I'll do it.
I did notice a rather large increase in the amount of time it took to find a game of Domination on PS4 after the TTK change. Hopefully it picks back up once the change is reverted.
I super don’t understand why they did that
I mean I can understand not including some of the more off the wall stuff but there is a middle ground between liberty spikes and cyberarms and everyone has a buzz cut.
The biggest issue though is silhouettes. There really shouldn’t be a whole crazy set of uniform and hat silhouettes that are overlapping between the sides. Also why I really hate that both sides have access to all the same weapons: it makes audio identification impossible and that’s like 90% of my situational awareness in games like this
fuck gendered marketing
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
edited December 2018
Wow that was a painful couple of games to complete the dailies. Think I spent more time bleeding out than running around.
And the faster bleed out should be a toggle, not a hold down thing. Just makes the whole experience more annoying.
Dunno if it's just coincidence or what, but first queue for Domination last night after the TTK revert and it only took 4 seconds to find a server compared to the almost 2 minute wait it's been. So that's cool. Now I need DICE to tackle the problem of random internet people being responsible for like, half your enjoyment in this game... I wish MP bot technology would advance beyond "Stand there and maybe fire your gun a couple times"
Barely any health packs or ammo resupplies, and absolutely no revives last night from anyone. Come on you dummies! You have a job other than get kills god dammit >:[
Also, I guess the revert was just one big roll back because the ability to call in V1's is gone again from Domination
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
Remember how everyone absolutely loved BC2? (I know I did!). The TTK in that game is huge, but you're also so much slower, and you can't go prone.
Something I felt that BF1 did that didn't help is that you're so mobile, I sometimes feel like I'm playing Titanfall with just how fast you can sprint from one spot to another, so I assume that you need to lower TTK when everything is moving so fast.
BFV looks to be even faster, but I haven't played (I'm all for getting a 10 hour trial though, wink wink) to form my own opinion on that, but they might have to slowdown gameplay a bit instead of messing around with damage values.
Did you ever try Origin Access in the past? It says you're ineligible for the Refer-A-Friend trial (unless that's telling me that somebody else already sent you a referral trial).
Gah, weird. I haven't used the program, but maybe I'm not eligible for being in Mexico. I also have't logged in a while, it might be that. I'll check. Thanks!
Managed to finish that win 3 grand operations assignment for tides of war and that put me halfway through rank 19. Started looking at the next two weeks of stuff and it just had me frowning. Next week is a lot of tank stuff. Since tanks are a scarce resource, that’s not gonna be a fun week. The following week is a bunch of grand operations which I’m now sick of. Bleh.
Managed to finish that win 3 grand operations assignment for tides of war and that put me halfway through rank 19. Started looking at the next two weeks of stuff and it just had me frowning. Next week is a lot of tank stuff. Since tanks are a scarce resource, that’s not gonna be a fun week. The following week is a bunch of grand operations which I’m now sick of. Bleh.
I foresee lots of Panzerstorm in our futures.
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good news- they have not stopped chattering today
They have a huge list and some great things coming.
Sometimes it feels like the smoke is not being rendered equally on both sides of the cloud.
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Awesome. I guess I technically played my class wrong in BF1 but it sure as hell worked well for me. Nice to know that now it's the 'right' was in BFV.
"We wanted to bring new people into BF5, so we decided the best thing to do was throw out an untested massive change onto the live servers, because there's no way that could ever cause public outcry that would undermine the whole point of the changes."
More and more I start to wonder if the industry has been infiltrated by aliens.
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Remember how everyone absolutely loved BC2? (I know I did!). The TTK in that game is huge, but you're also so much slower, and you can't go prone.
Something I felt that BF1 did that didn't help is that you're so mobile, I sometimes feel like I'm playing Titanfall with just how fast you can sprint from one spot to another, so I assume that you need to lower TTK when everything is moving so fast.
BFV looks to be even faster, but I haven't played (I'm all for getting a 10 hour trial though, wink wink) to form my own opinion on that, but they might have to slowdown gameplay a bit instead of messing around with damage values.
I mean they have the icon for that And the one for when you got shot through an object.
Sacrificing your vision to pander some fickle portions of playerbase is not worth destroying your relationship with the core base.
DICE has been really active with their responses during V's launch and beyond. They are actively listening to the community (TTK fail was one of the only bigger oversights, and I wonder how much of that was because of some higher up at EA).
Did you ever try Origin Access in the past? It says you're ineligible for the Refer-A-Friend trial (unless that's telling me that somebody else already sent you a referral trial).
I've been in situations where other squad leaders use it before I can get the chance. Also, sometimes the rush to get into a good position can leave me dead on the ground unable to do the request in time.
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Still it is good that they can recognize when they've made a mistake and roll back. Not every game dev team is willing and able to do that.
Example:
https://i.redd.it/ghvl0t67g3421.jpg
Edit:
Just ended up in my armory without any detail
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You know, literally every FPS needs this. Why is this not a thing?
But then again I have no idea what the internet is talking about anytime there's "failed patches", "betrayals", "ruined games", "insulting your core players" going around. And I'm pretty much 100% a gamer nerd.
I developed a muscle memory for the original TTK, I knew how long I should fire to kill an enemy. New TTK destroyed that instinct since it took longer to kill. Enemy often was left with few hit points. And it felt like shooting pellets, you had to shoot so many more bullets to actually kill (not every bullet hits, at least not mine). There were many occasions when people could get away with running in an open field and survive. Original TTK made sure that it was a lot harder to do that.
And it should be just like that. Promote thinking and tactics instead of twitchy shooter reflexes. A smart player wins most of the time in this game.
I love DICE, and for me this was the only big blunder the made with V. I am happy that they reverted it back. They listened to us original fans of the series, people who have been playing these games from the very beginning. V feels like the old Battlefields, and I couldn't be happier.
They just have to fix assignments next, damn they can be a mess sometimes.
The minority of people screaming and yelling online, demanding refunds and the clickbait youtube videos are overreacting. I agree. The TTK change did actively make the game worse though. It didn't ruin it, but for me (and lots of other folks) the game felt way less fun to play. Flanking was less rewarding, and people you got the drop on had time to react and run away, which just feels bad.
Super glad they're reverting it back, though I would've been happy with just the separate core list too. And it didn't ruin the game or whatever, but the change did set a troubling precedent with DICE and this game. They don't care how their dedicated player base is enjoying the game, they'll make whatever changes they want with no explanation, in the service of trying to milk more money out of people.
I celebrated the end of the TTK with another great night. Got a personal best Assault 3.37 K/D with two Tiger tank kills and shooting down a bomber with a Panzerfaust(!!). Also got best squad and dropped a V2 on a point on Twisted Steel, killing two people, so I hope I got the Ratburner for someone else in the squad. Actually had a squad mate shooting at me when I had 55k requisition in what I assume was an effort to get me to drop the V2, but it was like, HEY, there's no good place to drop it yet!
The best squad finished out my last thing I needed for the weeks worth of campaign points. My scores got a LOT better with the new TTK, we'll see if the lowered TTK drops me.
Flanking actually wasn't an issue for me with the new TTK. Just shoot 'em in the head
I also saw I had the Ribeyrolles 1918 unlocked. Is that the level 20 weapon / where'd that come from? Working on finishing the Mint of the StG so it'll be a bit....
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There is one allied outfit for sale that actually has the proper British M1937 ammo pouches basically all the infantry wore but it is out of my price range.
So I think they have done the MTX more correct with this one since it’s outfits and gun skins. I wish you could just pick from a catalog vs these features things. I just end up buying nothing because I don’t know what’s available next.
Re the changes, I don’t know wtf to think from anyone. It’s obvious DICE takes cues from some manager types, just look at Star Wars. They had all the game bits in #2 to make it great and someone managed to eff that up. So this one they learned but I really wish they’d socialize changes before rolling them out with a test server or something so they don’t get this giant blowback all the time. I do know why they had to make this the default so their target new players would play, but a test server would get them some early feedback without all the internet gnashing of teeth.
This can be a great game but they keep pushing modes that I personally don’t care for, like grand operations, and they want to add more. I just hope I can find a match here in 6 months.
They're probably in a rough spot there, since people had a fit about the cooler looking stuff from the reveal and beta because it was too wacky or something. I want cool facemasks, colorful facepaints, and stuff like the sniper lady's prosthetic arm, though. Gimmie some sweet, visually interesting stuff to spend money on and I'll do it.
I did notice a rather large increase in the amount of time it took to find a game of Domination on PS4 after the TTK change. Hopefully it picks back up once the change is reverted.
anyone who logs in between today and jan 3 gets the ribeyrolles and the m1897 added to their company
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-5/news/holiday-gift-battlefield-5-ribeyrolles-m1897
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It'll be shown in the Armory that a new weapon was unlocked.
Yay for the weapon, but they should take more credit for it.
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Yeah. The only time it's shown what, specifically, got added is when you actually go into the Armory. On the main Armory page, it'll show that the weapon was "Claimed." That's it...no fanfare, no flipping of cards like in BF4 or opening of crates.
It has a nice ROF, bipotted it is accurate af and it just feels so damn nice to shoot. Just last match I got the Assault mastery where you need 10 kills in one life, got like 14 just by setting that gun down near the E flag in Twisted steel. So good. First time I didn't have any doubt if I can complete the assignment. Been trying it for days now.
I love PIAT too, it is novel and you can lob shells behind cover. So good. Against tanks I get dings a lot, but meh. I have dynamite for them.
I don't like those gold skins, and I think that I'll just drop every Mastery gun assignment that feels hard to get. No point in torturing myself when the reward sucks. Class mastery is nicer, pretty damn cool clothes. Whole suits not so good, but mix&match is legit in this game. I have some pretty old boys in my company now.
I super don’t understand why they did that
I mean I can understand not including some of the more off the wall stuff but there is a middle ground between liberty spikes and cyberarms and everyone has a buzz cut.
The biggest issue though is silhouettes. There really shouldn’t be a whole crazy set of uniform and hat silhouettes that are overlapping between the sides. Also why I really hate that both sides have access to all the same weapons: it makes audio identification impossible and that’s like 90% of my situational awareness in games like this
And the faster bleed out should be a toggle, not a hold down thing. Just makes the whole experience more annoying.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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Barely any health packs or ammo resupplies, and absolutely no revives last night from anyone. Come on you dummies! You have a job other than get kills god dammit >:[
Also, I guess the revert was just one big roll back because the ability to call in V1's is gone again from Domination
Gah, weird. I haven't used the program, but maybe I'm not eligible for being in Mexico. I also have't logged in a while, it might be that. I'll check. Thanks!
I foresee lots of Panzerstorm in our futures.
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<shoots planes out of the sky, blows up 2 tanks>
Progress: zilch, nothing, nada. Pls fix your shit!
I am still waiting in the cosmetics shop for Afrika Korps/Desert Rats gear, so that I can run in shorts through the Norse snow