Hope there are no issues with rest mode and this game because I've had to put it in rest mode in the middle of the palace 7 boss fight because this goddamn thing won't end
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God getting that proper matador for strength 3 is a pain in the ass
Use the velvet guide in the manual and find out what recipe you need to involve a Persona that has the skill. For instance if you have a Hermit and need Death, look for what you need to fuse to make Death and level up/down accordingly.
Hmmm, all right. In that case I need to amend the question slightly.
How effective is it at advancing Hierophant? Everyone else is fast, but Hierophant is glacial
Very effective after you get a certain party member, but it's impossible to advance Hierophant until you get that party member. No point wasting time or prayers on Hierophant if you haven't gotten that member yet.
It should be pretty obvious when you get to the correct story point to advance.
You can inly get to rank 4 prior to the story point as well.
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Maxing my Yoshitsune to 99 Strength is really trying. And I don't mean in the sense of difficulty, but Caroline and Justine squawking every time I open the execution screen to check stats, close it when strength isn't the only one highlighted, open again, close again, ad infinitum. Finally just put it on mute while I cycle in and out.
Hmmm, all right. In that case I need to amend the question slightly.
How effective is it at advancing Hierophant? Everyone else is fast, but Hierophant is glacial
I never had to use more than 2x for a single rank. As mentioned before it does have a story lockout point but yea, other than that I never hang out with him or mad coffee outside of the required time and 2x was the most required ever.
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The entire problem with the past 3 months is that every game that came out was like 50+ hours and also very good.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Horizon, Zelda, Mass Effect, Nioh, Yakuza 0.
Granted, Andromeda isn't 'very good'. I mean I understand why some people would want every movie to be 3 hours, every game to be 100 hours, and every baseball game to last 8 hours; but does it really matter when most people don't finish the game they start?
Wait... don't any of you realize that means you won't be able to talk to Morgana any more? No, WHY!?!! I hate that cat so goddamn much but I don't want him to just be a normal cat. Sad...
The entire problem with the past 3 months is that every game that came out was like 50+ hours and also very good.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Horizon, Zelda, Mass Effect, Nioh, Yakuza 0.
Granted, Andromeda isn't 'very good'. I mean I understand why some people would want every movie to be 3 hours, every game to be 100 hours, and every baseball game to last 8 hours; but does it really matter when most people don't finish the game they start?
Beat palace 7 this morning, and progressed the story up to 12/8, where I hopped into Mementos to take care of two requests, got to what appears to be the bottom, and (eventually) killed my first Reaper. I really only intended to do the Reaper flu trick the one time to get the trophy, but I gained six levels after he died, so I might hang around a little longer and see how much farming I can do before I completely run out of patience and want to see the rest of the story.
Think I'm screwed on the book trophy because I must've missed a book in the library and I can't get back in there now, so that sucks.
The entire problem with the past 3 months is that every game that came out was like 50+ hours and also very good.
3 months isn't exactly a very long time...
And I'm talking about 80 hour jurps which is none of the things listed except Berseria but it had been a long gap in the times before that. This last few months was the strongest in gaming I've ever experienced in my life so it's not exactly a good example..
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Persona games are made in Japan, and Japanese developers are even more of a boys club than American developers. And Japan is much more conservative about LGBTQ issues.
People have been mentioning they wish that the Persona games would allow for viewpoints beyond the straight male, but I don't think that's going to happen barring a shift either in who is involved in the development of the game, or a shift of Japanese culture as a whole.
Persona games are made in Japan, and Japanese developers are even more of a boys club than American developers. And Japan is much more conservative about LGBTQ issues.
People have been mentioning they wish that the Persona games would allow for viewpoints beyond the straight male, but I don't think that's going to happen barring a shift either in who is involved in the development of the game, or a shift of Japanese culture as a whole.
they already did it though, you could be a lady in Persona 3 Portable
With the US market for the games growing, and with the departure of their current lead to another project, a change is possible. We'll have to see how they react. They may just say "well they bought it anyway!" and keep things the same.
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Persona games are made in Japan, and Japanese developers are even more of a boys club than American developers. And Japan is much more conservative about LGBTQ issues.
People have been mentioning they wish that the Persona games would allow for viewpoints beyond the straight male, but I don't think that's going to happen barring a shift either in who is involved in the development of the game, or a shift of Japanese culture as a whole.
Innocent Sin is almost 20 years old and allowed for alternate options.
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Atlus audience are the otakus and for some reason otakus want the same list of character tropes in every media they consume. Thankfully, Japanese developers are increasingly developing games with a western audience in mind so maybe we'll get a persona game without creepy anime bullshit in it.
Or they may very well double down on creep anime bullshit and give us a sequel to Tokyo mirage sessions.
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Atlus audience are the otakus and for some reason otakus want the same list of character tropes in every media they consume. Thankfully, Japanese developers are increasingly developing games with a western audience in mind so maybe we'll get a persona game without creepy anime bullshit in it.
Or they may very well double down on creep anime bullshit and give us a sequel to Tokyo mirage sessions.
I expected it to end several times and then whoops there goes another 10 hours
I think there were some very high highs and some low lows - the game would have benefited from ripping out a few Palaces, and I really missed the aesthetic of the older games in particular
The characters, style, and music were great, the upgrades to standard fight mechanics were neat, and the initial setup was really thrilling, but it felt like it lost the thread somewhere after the second Palace, though I feel like it ended well
The Palaces were way too fucking long, though; like, I realize that was likely due to them intending to have you complete Palaces over several days, but I don't play the Persona games for those - I play them for the social links/confidants and the micromanagement of skill-building between levels, though I do really like collecting the Personas too - and found them to be grating in a way I never felt in P3P/P4.
I wish the Palaces had a little more of your standard Persona feel; previous games had a more twisted visual appeal that I felt was only really carried through in the last two levels of the True Ending, which I missed quite a bit, and the rest of the levels really just felt a little too...typical? Realistic? They didn't really have uniqueness to them beyond the colours having the same vivid nature. It didn't help when the levels became more and more of a grind to get through. The bank level felt totally unnecessary and was where I started to really dislike the Palaces on the whole, until we got to the casino level and things started feeling plot relevant again. Akechi becoming the traitor was so obvious that I had expected there to be a swerve to say, Yusuke or something? But then they went the easy route, and I was disappointed. I had suspected he had something to do with it ever since showing up as an ACE DETECTIVE, and I presumed he was at least solving cases in the Metaverse, and then with the very next mention of the Man in Black I figured it had to be him.
The continual creeping on Ann thing was incredibly frustrating of course, that should almost go without saying, alongside finding reasons to get everyone into their swimsuits and have them just deal with Ryuji being a total lech. I guess it's to be expected in a Japanese game these days, but come on, guys, especially if you intend to market to a Western audience...
I essentially loved the game up to and including the stuff with Yusuke's mentor, but then didn't really have fun with it again until around the Casino level. It really dampened any reveals to do with Shido, because it was all too clear who he was to the MC from the start of the game, and pretending he didn't notice that was exhausting. The Velvet Room reveal on was really the only time I felt like I was engaged with the plot again, and remembered why I liked these games in the first place, but I do feel a bit disappointed in it overall after that first third.
I guess overall I'd say it was Fine. I might go back someday to just skim through social links, but given that I'd have to endure the levels again I will probably just watch Let's Plays of them at some point instead.
Kawakami was fantastic, Sojiro was great, Yusuke and Makoto are wonderful in particular, of your party
I wish I'd had more time to spend finishing the links for the doctor and gun boy and the gun shopman and there were definitely characters I barely even started
I also wish I hadn't invested so much time in Mishima because Mishima is the worst
Yeah Mishima was definitely the "I'm hanging out with you because it benefits me, not because I actually care" guy.
I'm done with all the palaces, but haven't quite finished the game yet and I agree with several of your points.
Feels like they started the show with a showstopper (Kamoshida) because none of the other palace owners (besides the seventh and maybe the second) had quite the same punch. Probably because the thieves slowly move from targeting a person for this specific awful shitty thing they did and move into more general "well crime is bad so here we go" territory.
Overall, I really really enjoy the game and I really liked the characters and I feel like that stupid cat kept me from hanging out with a lot of people that I would have liked to have hung out with more.
I'm sure this has been asked before but I've been studiously avoiding spoilers so I don't want to go back thru 60 pages to try and find it.
On the road to Palace 7
If I follow my usual pattern of "do Palace at first opportunity and have lots of free days afterwards to social link" is that okay, or will the story move forward when I do that one? Because it seems like the climax of the story (although I know there's one more dungeon shortly afterwards) and I'd hate to not finish up stuff if I could.
Alternatively is it a better idea to do some Memento levelling first anyway before that? I'm about level 53 at this point.
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I'm sure this has been asked before but I've been studiously avoiding spoilers so I don't want to go back thru 60 pages to try and find it.
On the road to Palace 7
If I follow my usual pattern of "do Palace at first opportunity and have lots of free days afterwards to social link" is that okay, or will the story move forward when I do that one? Because it seems like the climax of the story (although I know there's one more dungeon shortly afterwards) and I'd hate to not finish up stuff if I could.
Alternatively is it a better idea to do some Memento levelling first anyway before that? I'm about level 53 at this point.
You'll be okay. In fact, it's probably better, since certain social links won't show up until you clear out Palace 7. The story gets put on pause, as usual, until the deadline.
I'm sure this has been asked before but I've been studiously avoiding spoilers so I don't want to go back thru 60 pages to try and find it.
On the road to Palace 7
If I follow my usual pattern of "do Palace at first opportunity and have lots of free days afterwards to social link" is that okay, or will the story move forward when I do that one? Because it seems like the climax of the story (although I know there's one more dungeon shortly afterwards) and I'd hate to not finish up stuff if I could.
Alternatively is it a better idea to do some Memento levelling first anyway before that? I'm about level 53 at this point.
I found that you actually couldn't do active social stuff before completing the palace. None of the party will want to hang out before you've completed it.
I'm sure this has been asked before but I've been studiously avoiding spoilers so I don't want to go back thru 60 pages to try and find it.
On the road to Palace 7
If I follow my usual pattern of "do Palace at first opportunity and have lots of free days afterwards to social link" is that okay, or will the story move forward when I do that one? Because it seems like the climax of the story (although I know there's one more dungeon shortly afterwards) and I'd hate to not finish up stuff if I could.
Alternatively is it a better idea to do some Memento levelling first anyway before that? I'm about level 53 at this point.
I found that you actually couldn't do active social stuff before completing the palace. None of the party will want to hang out before you've completed it.
Yup
This is exactly why I was unable to complete Yusuke's social link to the full
I'd misinterpreted and assumed that completing the Palace would rush you onwards, but that does not happen, it was frustrating to learn
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Use the velvet guide in the manual and find out what recipe you need to involve a Persona that has the skill. For instance if you have a Hermit and need Death, look for what you need to fuse to make Death and level up/down accordingly.
You can inly get to rank 4 prior to the story point as well.
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Hierophant is the best link in the game from a plot perspective. Also SP restoring items are good.
Also also only 3 -> 4 is really slow. Everything else is pretty normal.
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Fuck Joe Manchin
Seriously. We don't get nearly enough of these giant(and good) jurp treks these days imo.
Plenty of short games are released. It's nice to just spend a month+ really getting in to one game.
The entire problem with the past 3 months is that every game that came out was like 50+ hours and also very good.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Horizon, Zelda, Mass Effect, Nioh, Yakuza 0.
Granted, Andromeda isn't 'very good'. I mean I understand why some people would want every movie to be 3 hours, every game to be 100 hours, and every baseball game to last 8 hours; but does it really matter when most people don't finish the game they start?
Also Berseria.
Think I'm screwed on the book trophy because I must've missed a book in the library and I can't get back in there now, so that sucks.
Just let me do anything! Let me make a single choice tonight! I rented a DVD a week ago and have never gotten the option to watch it!
Shut up Morgana!
Maybe it left with Hashino. Doubtful, but we'll see.
Really looking forward to finishing this tonight with the levels of "what the fuck" were going on in that last area & the reveals I got through.
3 months isn't exactly a very long time...
And I'm talking about 80 hour jurps which is none of the things listed except Berseria but it had been a long gap in the times before that. This last few months was the strongest in gaming I've ever experienced in my life so it's not exactly a good example..
Without teenagers? Doubtful.
People have been mentioning they wish that the Persona games would allow for viewpoints beyond the straight male, but I don't think that's going to happen barring a shift either in who is involved in the development of the game, or a shift of Japanese culture as a whole.
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they already did it though, you could be a lady in Persona 3 Portable
so they're backsliding, not refusing to progress
Innocent Sin is almost 20 years old and allowed for alternate options.
Or they may very well double down on creep anime bullshit and give us a sequel to Tokyo mirage sessions.
Yo, TMS was great!
I expected it to end several times and then whoops there goes another 10 hours
I think there were some very high highs and some low lows - the game would have benefited from ripping out a few Palaces, and I really missed the aesthetic of the older games in particular
The characters, style, and music were great, the upgrades to standard fight mechanics were neat, and the initial setup was really thrilling, but it felt like it lost the thread somewhere after the second Palace, though I feel like it ended well
The Palaces were way too fucking long, though; like, I realize that was likely due to them intending to have you complete Palaces over several days, but I don't play the Persona games for those - I play them for the social links/confidants and the micromanagement of skill-building between levels, though I do really like collecting the Personas too - and found them to be grating in a way I never felt in P3P/P4.
I wish the Palaces had a little more of your standard Persona feel; previous games had a more twisted visual appeal that I felt was only really carried through in the last two levels of the True Ending, which I missed quite a bit, and the rest of the levels really just felt a little too...typical? Realistic? They didn't really have uniqueness to them beyond the colours having the same vivid nature. It didn't help when the levels became more and more of a grind to get through. The bank level felt totally unnecessary and was where I started to really dislike the Palaces on the whole, until we got to the casino level and things started feeling plot relevant again. Akechi becoming the traitor was so obvious that I had expected there to be a swerve to say, Yusuke or something? But then they went the easy route, and I was disappointed. I had suspected he had something to do with it ever since showing up as an ACE DETECTIVE, and I presumed he was at least solving cases in the Metaverse, and then with the very next mention of the Man in Black I figured it had to be him.
The continual creeping on Ann thing was incredibly frustrating of course, that should almost go without saying, alongside finding reasons to get everyone into their swimsuits and have them just deal with Ryuji being a total lech. I guess it's to be expected in a Japanese game these days, but come on, guys, especially if you intend to market to a Western audience...
I essentially loved the game up to and including the stuff with Yusuke's mentor, but then didn't really have fun with it again until around the Casino level. It really dampened any reveals to do with Shido, because it was all too clear who he was to the MC from the start of the game, and pretending he didn't notice that was exhausting. The Velvet Room reveal on was really the only time I felt like I was engaged with the plot again, and remembered why I liked these games in the first place, but I do feel a bit disappointed in it overall after that first third.
I guess overall I'd say it was Fine. I might go back someday to just skim through social links, but given that I'd have to endure the levels again I will probably just watch Let's Plays of them at some point instead.
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Kawakami was fantastic, Sojiro was great, Yusuke and Makoto are wonderful in particular, of your party
I wish I'd had more time to spend finishing the links for the doctor and gun boy and the gun shopman and there were definitely characters I barely even started
I also wish I hadn't invested so much time in Mishima because Mishima is the worst
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I'm done with all the palaces, but haven't quite finished the game yet and I agree with several of your points.
Feels like they started the show with a showstopper (Kamoshida) because none of the other palace owners (besides the seventh and maybe the second) had quite the same punch. Probably because the thieves slowly move from targeting a person for this specific awful shitty thing they did and move into more general "well crime is bad so here we go" territory.
Overall, I really really enjoy the game and I really liked the characters and I feel like that stupid cat kept me from hanging out with a lot of people that I would have liked to have hung out with more.
On the road to Palace 7
Alternatively is it a better idea to do some Memento levelling first anyway before that? I'm about level 53 at this point.
Yup
This is exactly why I was unable to complete Yusuke's social link to the full
I'd misinterpreted and assumed that completing the Palace would rush you onwards, but that does not happen, it was frustrating to learn
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I have no idea why I put that question in spoilers...but whatever.