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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Also if we're being honest, I think the Demon Bear Saga is largely so striking because of the art more than the story itself.

    It set it apart from every other Marvel book at the time.

    I love Sienkiewicz's run on New Mutants though, and his art is inexorably connected to that title in my mind

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I've seen lots of horror movies with teen angst but the angst is usually interrupted pretty swiftly by the teens being dismembered, often for comedic effect

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Also if we're being honest, I think the Demon Bear Saga is largely so striking because of the art more than the story itself.

    It set it apart from every other Marvel book at the time.

    I love Sienkiewicz's run on New Mutants though, and his art is inexorably connected to that title in my mind

    I really, really hope the visual style of the movie takes cues from Sienkiewicz the way Doctor Strange did from Ditko

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    New Mutants is all about good-hearted, awkward kids with crushes that come and go sneaking out of the house to get in trouble and constantly getting in over their heads and having to go running back to Xavier/Magneto to get bailed out

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    What if they got attacked by a supernatural corpse with a machete

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    Shouldnt X-Factor be the horror one?

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    What if the New Mutants go to the country for some dirtbiking and get a little too crazy and accidentally kill some hillbillies kid and the hillbilly summons a demon for revengeance purposes

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    The way to sell comics is to invest in long run story arcs which are relatively independent of other titles and give a creative team time to really develop the title.

    Short series lengths, rotating teams and tieins are all jumping off points. You want people to invest, reward their investment.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Joolander wrote: »
    Shouldnt X-Factor be the horror one?

    I'm not sure which version of X-Factor you're thinking of, but I don't think so

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    One of the best arcs of the modern era was Uncanny X-Force's first 18 issues, the Archangel Villain maxi-arc. It was fantastic.

    And it could barely be done now because even stable titles don't get 18 issues. That's crazy!

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    HawkstoneHawkstone Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. Somewhere outside of BarstowRegistered User regular

    Joolander wrote: »
    Shouldnt X-Factor be the horror one?

    I'm not sure which version of X-Factor you're thinking of, but I don't think so

    I have no doubt in my mind that X-factor should be Jamie Madrox detective at large and his crew of miscreant cohorts.

    Inside of a dog...it's too dark to read.
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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Hawkstone wrote: »
    Joolander wrote: »
    Shouldnt X-Factor be the horror one?

    I'm not sure which version of X-Factor you're thinking of, but I don't think so

    I have no doubt in my mind that X-factor should be Jamie Madrox detective at large and his crew of miscreant cohorts.

    That Peter David run from 2005? Was amazing

    The Quicksilver stuff that tied into it was sort of dumb though

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    Which was the book where Cable and Bishop(?) and others are fighting super gross monsters for a tv show against their will?

    Or did my mind just make that up?

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    That sounds like something I saw on TV involving Mojo but I also hallucinate and fabricate memories

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I wonder if the soap opera aspects are never focused on because they might not play as well in film. I'm not like confident on that, but I could definitely see that as something that more or less just works on a much more serialized manner with a lot more room to play. The films (for better or worse ((worse))) seem like they have to follow BIG EVENT formats which doesn't leave as much room for the soapy character beats.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Yet another reason why superhero comics are better suited to episodic format than film

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    I wonder if the soap opera aspects are never focused on because they might not play as well in film. I'm not like confident on that, but I could definitely see that as something that more or less just works on a much more serialized manner with a lot more room to play. The films (for better or worse ((worse))) seem like they have to follow BIG EVENT formats which doesn't leave as much room for the soapy character beats.

    There's a reason why soap operas are serialized tv and not films.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    The way to sell comics is to invest in long run story arcs which are relatively independent of other titles and give a creative team time to really develop the title.

    Short series lengths, rotating teams and tieins are all jumping off points. You want people to invest, reward their investment.

    Well yes, having the whole story be a story is key, but for for the moment, I'm assuming a monthly format.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I think they've proven that they have no interest in the superhero soap opera angle of X-Men, which is a real shame because I think that's a huge part of what made those characters interesting and enduring in the first place

    F**k, X-men is pretty much the superhero soap opera. I mean, that's one of the first things that comes to mind when I consider the group and their history, along with standing in for other minorities.

    But, fair point on some media being more suited to that than others. Which, I suppose, leads to the larger issue of taking segments of a never-ending serial played out over decades and trying to turn them into movies with a two-hour run time and a coherent beginning, middle and end.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Also if we're being honest, I think the Demon Bear Saga is largely so striking because of the art more than the story itself.

    It set it apart from every other Marvel book at the time.

    I love Sienkiewicz's run on New Mutants though, and his art is inexorably connected to that title in my mind

    Warlock (or, rather, Warlock-and-Doug) is one of my favorite characters (duos) from that period, and while I tend to prefer how others draw them, it was Sienkiewicz who first established his look.

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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Buddy thief movie? Huh.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    That'll excite all three fans of Silver Sable out there.

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Silver Sable is a noncommittal shrug made into a character

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The only time Silver Sable has been remotely interesting was in the Spectacular Spider-man cartoon.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Look, sometimes you need a generic mercenary to do a thing. And then sometimes those people are too interesting.

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    Is it still a Spider-Man spinoff if it's in the Venom-verse and not the MCU?

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    So there's a rumour that Rosario Dawson may play Cecilia Reyes in the New Mutants movie

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-new-mutants-cast-rosario-dawson-talks-star-1003192

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    So there's a rumour that Rosario Dawson may play Cecilia Reyes in the New Mutants movie

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-new-mutants-cast-rosario-dawson-talks-star-1003192

    Stan Lee may be the one person connecting all Marvel properties but Rosario Dawson will one day be the person who connects all comic book properties.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I'm so glad Rosario Dawson is making a play at the Evans/Routh throne

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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    Reminder that Silver Sable's real name is Silver Sablinova

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Haha really?

    Awesome

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    It's no Blackagar Boltagon but it'll do.

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    New Mutants being a horror movie sounds like it could be interesting. Unlike traditional horror movies where the kids are all scared and defenseless, the mutants actually have super powers. Not only will there be mutants able to defend themselves and fight back, they might have other unique abilities that can add a whole new dynamic. There are all sorts of things they can do to subvert expectations and flip horror tropes on their heads.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    That'll excite all three fans of Silver Sable out there.

    yo this is a real roundabout way to call me fat

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    New Mutants being a horror movie sounds like it could be interesting. Unlike traditional horror movies where the kids are all scared and defenseless, the mutants actually have super powers. Not only will there be mutants able to defend themselves and fight back, they might have other unique abilities that can add a whole new dynamic. There are all sorts of things they can do to subvert expectations and flip horror tropes on their heads.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    yeah that is basically exactly what i was thinking

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Oh that'd be pretty rad.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Oh hey look, a Marvel writer handling criticism of their story with grace and professionalism
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    Look at that

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