What's with the wetsuit Pwnan? You going swimming? I looked up what Pwnan means. It means flute.
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PwnanObrienHe's right, life sucks.Registered Userregular
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
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PwnanObrienHe's right, life sucks.Registered Userregular
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
Not quite but they have very quickly become the #2 promotion in North America.
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
Not quite but they have very quickly become the #2 promotion in North America.
Eh, depends how you view the Neilson numbers for the AXS New Japan show and TNA.
Does the AXS show get more than 300,000 estimated viewers on average?
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
Not quite but they have very quickly become the #2 promotion in North America.
Eh, depends how you view the Neilson numbers for the AXS New Japan show and TNA.
Does the AXS show get more than 300,000 estimated viewers on average?
They're on AXS so they don't report Nielson numbers but reported over 200,000 viewers back in 2015 when they started which is the same numbers Lucha Underground was putting up with first run programming on two networks.
Fuck Nielson numbers. They make more MONEY than any other promotion in North America which is the real metric of success. Plenty of people watched Dixie Carter flush her father's money down a toilet year after year for a decade.
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
Not quite but they have very quickly become the #2 promotion in North America.
Eh, depends how you view the Neilson numbers for the AXS New Japan show and TNA.
Does the AXS show get more than 300,000 estimated viewers on average?
They're on AXS so they don't report Nielson numbers but reported over 200,000 viewers back in 2015 when they started which is the same numbers Lucha Underground was putting up with first run programming on two networks.
Fuck Nielson numbers. They make more MONEY than any other promotion in North America which is the real metric of success. Plenty of people watched Dixie Carter flush her father's money down a toilet year after year for a decade.
People are actually paying to go the the American New Japan shows so they've got a one up on TNA already.
Unfortunately they do till something better comes along, but the Neilson's seem to keep a stranglehold on everything with no end in sight.
This is objectively untrue.
They are not the only metric advertisers are using these days, nor should they be the metric we, as fans or consumers, use as a metric of a product's viability or popularity since they are historically and demonstrably faulty and are only clung to as a Naked Emperor.
Broseph, if you really wanna get into an argument about the nitty gritty of television advertising metrics and the methodology by which industries gauge popularity and public interest, I'll be your Huckleberry, but be warned you are in for some D E E P M A T H because I work in the industry and caring about this shit is my job.
Right now I am on my phone on the way to the dentist and then going to play D&D with my wife and her co-workers but, I will have a for realsies convo about this laters, probably tomortow if you wanna PM me a reminder.
Because no, no Neilsen is not something we need to tolerate or even acknowledge, especially not for pro wrestling.
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PwnanObrienHe's right, life sucks.Registered Userregular
It is odd to me how both Impact and Smackdown have angles mocking Mauro who will almost certainly be calling New Japan again soon. It's like they learned nothing from WCW mocking Jim Ross. You don't make fun of the better commentator that everybody likes especially when that commentator is going to be doing play by play on a better product.
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
Not quite but they have very quickly become the #2 promotion in North America.
Eh, depends how you view the Neilson numbers for the AXS New Japan show and TNA.
Does the AXS show get more than 300,000 estimated viewers on average?
They're on AXS so they don't report Nielson numbers but reported over 200,000 viewers back in 2015 when they started which is the same numbers Lucha Underground was putting up with first run programming on two networks.
Fuck Nielson numbers. They make more MONEY than any other promotion in North America which is the real metric of success. Plenty of people watched Dixie Carter flush her father's money down a toilet year after year for a decade.
People are actually paying to go the the American New Japan shows so they've got a one up on TNA already.
Yeah, the fact that they're more profitable than any US indie before they've even set up a ring on US soil puts them in a good position but the real money maker is New Japan World. ROH's video services were never as popular as NJPWWorld.com is and Impact doesn't even have a network online.
Unfortunately they do till something better comes along, but the Neilson's seem to keep a stranglehold on everything with no end in sight.
This is objectively untrue.
They are not the only metric advertisers are using these days, nor should they be the metric we, as fans or consumers, use as a metric of a product's viability or popularity since they are historically and demonstrably faulty and are only clung to as a Naked Emperor.
Broseph, if you really wanna get into an argument about the nitty gritty of television advertising metrics and the methodology by which industries gauge popularity and public interest, I'll be your Huckleberry, but be warned you are in for some D E E P M A T H because I work in the industry and caring about this shit is my job.
Right now I am on my phone on the way to the dentist and then going to play D&D with my wife and her co-workers but, I will have a for realsies convo about this laters, probably tomortow if you wanna PM me a reminder.
Because no, no Neilsen is not something we need to tolerate or even acknowledge, especially not for pro wrestling.
TV advertising still lives and dies by the Neilson system only doesn't it?
Unfortunately they do till something better comes along, but the Neilson's seem to keep a stranglehold on everything with no end in sight.
This is objectively untrue.
They are not the only metric advertisers are using these days, nor should they be the metric we, as fans or consumers, use as a metric of a product's viability or popularity since they are historically and demonstrably faulty and are only clung to as a Naked Emperor.
Broseph, if you really wanna get into an argument about the nitty gritty of television advertising metrics and the methodology by which industries gauge popularity and public interest, I'll be your Huckleberry, but be warned you are in for some D E E P M A T H because I work in the industry and caring about this shit is my job.
Right now I am on my phone on the way to the dentist and then going to play D&D with my wife and her co-workers but, I will have a for realsies convo about this laters, probably tomortow if you wanna PM me a reminder.
Because no, no Neilsen is not something we need to tolerate or even acknowledge, especially not for pro wrestling.
TV advertising still lives and dies by the Neilson system doesn't it?
I honestly am not sure about that anymore.
The short answer is "it's complicated"
The long answer is eldritch screaming on the edges of your audible perception, and my skeletal hand beckoning you to come closer to listen, your very sanity threatening to be blasted asunder to know these non-euclidean truths
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PwnanObrienHe's right, life sucks.Registered Userregular
The real measure of success is that Gedo has booked CJ fucking Parker as a legitimate threat to arguably the top heel in the company's Intercontinental title reign.
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David_TA fashion yes-man is no good to me.Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered Userregular
Unfortunately they do till something better comes along, but the Neilson's seem to keep a stranglehold on everything with no end in sight.
This is objectively untrue.
They are not the only metric advertisers are using these days, nor should they be the metric we, as fans or consumers, use as a metric of a product's viability or popularity since they are historically and demonstrably faulty and are only clung to as a Naked Emperor.
Broseph, if you really wanna get into an argument about the nitty gritty of television advertising metrics and the methodology by which industries gauge popularity and public interest, I'll be your Huckleberry, but be warned you are in for some D E E P M A T H because I work in the industry and caring about this shit is my job.
Right now I am on my phone on the way to the dentist and then going to play D&D with my wife and her co-workers but, I will have a for realsies convo about this laters, probably tomortow if you wanna PM me a reminder.
Because no, no Neilsen is not something we need to tolerate or even acknowledge, especially not for pro wrestling.
TV advertising still lives and dies by the Neilson system doesn't it?
I honestly am not sure about that anymore.
The short answer is "it's complicated"
The long answer is eldritch screaming on the edges of your audible perception, and my skeletal hand beckoning you to come closer to listen, your very sanity threatening to be blasted asunder to know these non-euclidean truths
And you're sure this conversation wouldn't be improved by having it directly after dentist nitrous and an evening of red wine with friends?
I'm tempted to say let's all just assume "No." and never, ever speak about ratings ever again for any reason. But I've got a buddy in advertising and he talks about it occasionally and I find it fascinating, so I kind of want to hear Pony's thoughtpiece on it.
There's severe problems with the "TV's archaic/dying" belief/hope, but Nielsen is really irrelevant to that
If you want to talk ads, ratings are nowhere near as detrimental to wrestling as the fact that every company willing to pay for ad space in 2017 thinks wrestling's audience is dumb, and TV deals definitely suffer because of that growing over time, not decreasing
There's severe problems with the "TV's archaic/dying" belief/hope, but Nielsen is really irrelevant to that
If you want to talk ads, ratings are nowhere near as detrimental to wrestling as the fact that every company willing to pay for ad space in 2017 thinks wrestling's audience is dumb, and TV deals definitely suffer because of that growing over time, not decreasing
Almost positive World of Sport can't use JR any more because of this. Not coincidental of course.
If anything this is doing WoS a favour because JR was terrible on the "pilot". Obviously he wasn't the worst thing about the commentary, but that's only because it would take a Herculean effort to be worse than Alex Shane.
There's severe problems with the "TV's archaic/dying" belief/hope, but Nielsen is really irrelevant to that
If you want to talk ads, ratings are nowhere near as detrimental to wrestling as the fact that every company willing to pay for ad space in 2017 thinks wrestling's audience is dumb, and TV deals definitely suffer because of that growing over time, not decreasing
That's never going to change though.
Them thinking wrestling audiences are dumb, and thinking it more and more over time?
Well, to be honest, this is yet another Nielsen debate/argument/topic bring-up in a 100 page wrestling thread (of which we have many in the average year). Even we must admit at this point the assumption isn't exactly unfair on their part.
As for my thoughts on the future, it's definitely not going to be more optimistic when the topic in threads inevitably changes from "how companies matter in terms of Nielsen" to "how can we watch all these companies when they all have streaming services, all of the services and their network stations services are each around the same price, net neutrality's dead, and it all totals more than cable ever did"
Strowman is reportedly out for a month or two starting after tonight due to minor elbow surgery.
As long as Roman is still off TV, then I'm OK with Strowman being off. Sell them beating the hell out of each other(or at least Strowman getting injured knocking the door off the back of the Ambulance) and needing to take time off to recover.
Strowman is reportedly out for a month or two starting after tonight due to minor elbow surgery.
As long as Roman is still off TV, then I'm OK with Strowman being off. Sell them beating the hell out of each other(or at least Strowman getting injured knocking the door off the back of the Ambulance) and needing to take time off to recover.
Plus this probably means Brock vs Braun will be held off till Summerslam now.
Colby Corino is in police custody once again. Pro Wrestling Sheet has confirmed that the indy star was taken into custody on Friday in Hamilton County, Tennessee due to an outstanding warrant.
According to jail officials, the warrant was for an arrest due to “failure to comply.” The specifics are not known, though the official says it could have been levied for a missed court date or fine. The same department arrested him back in December after he was found unconscious with multiple types of drugs in his home.
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I want them to rebrand that show and bring it back so bad.
AXS, expires in January
Steam
What's with the wetsuit Pwnan? You going swimming? I looked up what Pwnan means. It means flute.
apparently, Paul Bearer and Bryan Adams/Crush used to rib Taker
...with cucumbers
New Japan isn't competition to WWE.
That's not an insult, just a fact.
Not quite but they have very quickly become the #2 promotion in North America.
Eh, depends how you view the Neilson numbers for the AXS New Japan show and TNA.
Does the AXS show get more than 300,000 estimated viewers on average?
Doesn't.
Matter.
Unfortunately they do till something better comes along, but the Neilson's seem to keep a stranglehold on everything with no end in sight.
...
Neilson.
Ratings.
Don't.
Matter.
They're on AXS so they don't report Nielson numbers but reported over 200,000 viewers back in 2015 when they started which is the same numbers Lucha Underground was putting up with first run programming on two networks.
Fuck Nielson numbers. They make more MONEY than any other promotion in North America which is the real metric of success. Plenty of people watched Dixie Carter flush her father's money down a toilet year after year for a decade.
People are actually paying to go the the American New Japan shows so they've got a one up on TNA already.
Steam
moty 2017
This is objectively untrue.
They are not the only metric advertisers are using these days, nor should they be the metric we, as fans or consumers, use as a metric of a product's viability or popularity since they are historically and demonstrably faulty and are only clung to as a Naked Emperor.
Broseph, if you really wanna get into an argument about the nitty gritty of television advertising metrics and the methodology by which industries gauge popularity and public interest, I'll be your Huckleberry, but be warned you are in for some D E E P M A T H because I work in the industry and caring about this shit is my job.
Right now I am on my phone on the way to the dentist and then going to play D&D with my wife and her co-workers but, I will have a for realsies convo about this laters, probably tomortow if you wanna PM me a reminder.
Because no, no Neilsen is not something we need to tolerate or even acknowledge, especially not for pro wrestling.
Yeah, the fact that they're more profitable than any US indie before they've even set up a ring on US soil puts them in a good position but the real money maker is New Japan World. ROH's video services were never as popular as NJPWWorld.com is and Impact doesn't even have a network online.
TV advertising still lives and dies by the Neilson system only doesn't it?
I honestly am not sure about that anymore.
The short answer is "it's complicated"
The long answer is eldritch screaming on the edges of your audible perception, and my skeletal hand beckoning you to come closer to listen, your very sanity threatening to be blasted asunder to know these non-euclidean truths
And you're sure this conversation wouldn't be improved by having it directly after dentist nitrous and an evening of red wine with friends?
When his New Japan run is through, hopefully he comes back if he wants to.
If you want to talk ads, ratings are nowhere near as detrimental to wrestling as the fact that every company willing to pay for ad space in 2017 thinks wrestling's audience is dumb, and TV deals definitely suffer because of that growing over time, not decreasing
Steam
That's never going to change though.
If anything this is doing WoS a favour because JR was terrible on the "pilot". Obviously he wasn't the worst thing about the commentary, but that's only because it would take a Herculean effort to be worse than Alex Shane.
Them thinking wrestling audiences are dumb, and thinking it more and more over time?
Well, to be honest, this is yet another Nielsen debate/argument/topic bring-up in a 100 page wrestling thread (of which we have many in the average year). Even we must admit at this point the assumption isn't exactly unfair on their part.
As for my thoughts on the future, it's definitely not going to be more optimistic when the topic in threads inevitably changes from "how companies matter in terms of Nielsen" to "how can we watch all these companies when they all have streaming services, all of the services and their network stations services are each around the same price, net neutrality's dead, and it all totals more than cable ever did"
Steam
As long as Roman is still off TV, then I'm OK with Strowman being off. Sell them beating the hell out of each other(or at least Strowman getting injured knocking the door off the back of the Ambulance) and needing to take time off to recover.
Plus this probably means Brock vs Braun will be held off till Summerslam now.
So who does Brock face in July.
Steam
Maybe Brock vs Finn at GREAT BALLS OF FIRE
But how will we tell them apart???
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Seeing Mordecai again brings back memories of all these forgotten big guys WWE tried pushing in the mid-2000s.
Like, remember Kenzo Suzuki?
Remember Luther Reigns?
This guy wrecked his career in record time.
He'd already sent them to the rest of the roster; he didn't want Kurt to feel left out.