Travel reimbursement time! It's like free money, except it isn't. Whatever, it still feels good. And I can stop carrying the cost from last week's conference travel.
Last year I submitted a reimbursement and it took four months for me to be paid.
So this year, when I submitted one for a conference at the end of March, I didn't worry too much when it got to June without hearing anything. I kind of meant to chase it up, but I got a lot of shit on my plate and also didn't want to harass our administrator, who by and large is very good.
... Except that yesterday she sent me an email telling me she'd lost my expense report under some papers on her desk and only just found it, and couldn't submit it because theyve moved to a new expenses system which has a ninety day cut off on report submissions.
Eventually managed to wrangle 90% of the expenses through, im still $100 down but she's promised to balance that with me somehow. But holy shit is this a great way to ensure I am on your back about every damn thing from now on.
I don't think I'd be too fucking thrilled if someone release a hit-piece book on me either. Hubspot also fired the guy for doing that so... yeah, not adding them to my evil company list just yet.
CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
I am amused the article writer thinks that accusing a company of trying to make work fun is some kind of scathing criticism.
I do loathe corporate speak like "delightion" though. God, spare me from corporate nerd types trying to make up new words for "sell more of the things."
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
They sound like really annoying people that I would probably not like, but as someone who's generally inclined to enjoy seeing marketing bullshit slagged off, I came away from that with a better view of Hubspot than the author.
They sound like really annoying people that I would probably not like, but as someone who's generally inclined to enjoy seeing marketing bullshit slagged off, I came away from that with a better view of Hubspot than the author.
The biggest indictment it had was of the sales staff and I've yet to encounter a company, in articles or in personal experience, that didn't have some of the most awful human beings in sales, so that doesn't feel like an issue specific to them.
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
They sound like really annoying people that I would probably not like, but as someone who's generally inclined to enjoy seeing marketing bullshit slagged off, I came away from that with a better view of Hubspot than the author.
The biggest indictment it had was of the sales staff and I've yet to encounter a company, in articles or in personal experience, that didn't have some of the most awful human beings in sales, so that doesn't feel like an issue specific to them.
Hiring a salesman is like reaching into a bag of clowns and hoping you don't pull out one that has a knife
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The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
Saying an employee who leaves has "graduated" may be cloying and corporate, but trying to spin it as "they're leaving and going on to do cooler things" is, I don't know, at worst trying to be fake nice.
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David_TA fashion yes-man is no good to me.Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered Userregular
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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David_TA fashion yes-man is no good to me.Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered Userregular
I must have mentioned this before, but when I worked for the Postal service, they told people they were being decruited. As in, the opposite of recruited.
CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
First company to use the phrase, "ascending to Valhalla" as a corporate euphemism for a firing now owes me 1 billion dollars for thinking of it first. That's how it works, right?
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Like I'm glad that when I left my old job they said "Patrick's moving on to better things" rather than "We've all noticed Patrick becoming increasingly bitter and unhappy, he's leaving before he ends up hating everyone here. In a couple of months he'll realise that the problem was more his attitude than anything else. He will be easily replaced".
Which is far more accurate.
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Tynnanseldom correct, never unsureRegistered Userregular
Travel reimbursement time! It's like free money, except it isn't. Whatever, it still feels good. And I can stop carrying the cost from last week's conference travel.
Last year I submitted a reimbursement and it took four months for me to be paid.
So this year, when I submitted one for a conference at the end of March, I didn't worry too much when it got to June without hearing anything. I kind of meant to chase it up, but I got a lot of shit on my plate and also didn't want to harass our administrator, who by and large is very good.
... Except that yesterday she sent me an email telling me she'd lost my expense report under some papers on her desk and only just found it, and couldn't submit it because theyve moved to a new expenses system which has a ninety day cut off on report submissions.
Eventually managed to wrangle 90% of the expenses through, im still $100 down but she's promised to balance that with me somehow. But holy shit is this a great way to ensure I am on your back about every damn thing from now on.
Yeah... that's a perfect way to permanently lose my benefit of the doubt. We don't make enough for that kind of bullshit.
Like I'm glad that when I left my old job they said "Patrick's moving on to better things" rather than "We've all noticed Patrick becoming increasingly bitter and unhappy, he's leaving before he ends up hating everyone here. In a couple of months he'll realise that the problem was more his attitude than anything else. He will be easily replaced".
Which is far more accurate.
If you're not becoming bitter and unhappy with your coworkers are you even really working?
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Travel reimbursement time! It's like free money, except it isn't. Whatever, it still feels good. And I can stop carrying the cost from last week's conference travel.
Last year I submitted a reimbursement and it took four months for me to be paid.
So this year, when I submitted one for a conference at the end of March, I didn't worry too much when it got to June without hearing anything. I kind of meant to chase it up, but I got a lot of shit on my plate and also didn't want to harass our administrator, who by and large is very good.
... Except that yesterday she sent me an email telling me she'd lost my expense report under some papers on her desk and only just found it, and couldn't submit it because theyve moved to a new expenses system which has a ninety day cut off on report submissions.
Eventually managed to wrangle 90% of the expenses through, im still $100 down but she's promised to balance that with me somehow. But holy shit is this a great way to ensure I am on your back about every damn thing from now on.
Yeah... that's a perfect way to permanently lose my benefit of the doubt. We don't make enough for that kind of bullshit.
The federal government reimbursed me for my hotel and car rental costs within two weeks of the travel.
The US federal government was faster than your person...
Honestly our admin is usually very fast. The University accounts department, however...
Apparently this new system is supposed to speed up repayments. Having a ninety day hard cutoff is crazy though. It's perfectly possible for me to be on a research trip for that long.
Like I'm glad that when I left my old job they said "Patrick's moving on to better things" rather than "We've all noticed Patrick becoming increasingly bitter and unhappy, he's leaving before he ends up hating everyone here. In a couple of months he'll realise that the problem was more his attitude than anything else. He will be easily replaced".
Which is far more accurate.
If you're not becoming bitter and unhappy with your coworkers are you even really working?
One of the ways that I figured out it wasn't me was that after I left, I got on really well with the boss that I complained about all the time. Turns out she's a really nice lady and the problem was that I just didn't want to be there.
Honestly our admin is usually very fast. The University accounts department, however...
Apparently this new system is supposed to speed up repayments. Having a ninety day hard cutoff is crazy though. It's perfectly possible for me to be on a research trip for that long.
It's probably not a hard cut off, but, a configurable option to make sure someone doesn't get lazy and her manager is cutting down on shit that's like 8+ months late being entered into the system.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Which, from an accounting point of view i totally get, but that money has still been spent. As an employee I still need it to be reimbursed, and there will be people on field work deployment with spotty internet access who would have a very hard time keeping up with rolling expenses.
And when you have an institution as large as this one, three months is an eye blink in red-tape years.
Really I'm just bitching about the meta-issue, where in large enough organizations the employees end up working around the bureaucracy rather than the bureaucracy enabling the employees. It's a particularly fraught issue in universities.
Like what the fuck is a manager supposed to do with someone when their work issue is "I don't want to be here or do this thing that you pay me for"
Was it a people issue or something? (micromanagement or policies from upper management?) Or more just general resentment towards the job?
It was a square peg in a round hole to an extent. I don't really fit into marketing culture very well, and like most people who don't fit in I react to that by being reductive about that culture. I talked shit on marketers all the time (still do!) but they never talked shit on me, so who's the dick? The job required me to have a public persona as a marketing type, something that I couldn't really do.
There were also work fit things, like I don't work well in an open plan environment, it makes me anxious and I felt stressed out all the time because of it. I had the occasional standard "I don't like that guy" problems but nothing major. When I left Montreal I went and said goodbye to all of them and was treated very warmly, because everyone involved realised "no one was a bad guy here, it just wasn't a good fit"
They taught me an incredible amount, gave me a ton of opportunities that I didn't really deserve and essentially gift-wrapped me the opportunity to grow into a much better career. I'm very, very grateful for that.
Like what the fuck is a manager supposed to do with someone when their work issue is "I don't want to be here or do this thing that you pay me for"
"byeeeeee"
And they didn't do that, they worked really hard with me and would have continued to do so for as long as it took, but eventually I said "look this isn't working and I don't think it's your fault, I'm sorry." I didn't want to push them until they had no choice but to fire me.
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DynagripBreak me a million heartsHoustonRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Like what the fuck is a manager supposed to do with someone when their work issue is "I don't want to be here or do this thing that you pay me for"
make your life hell gradually, so that eventually you'll leave voluntarily and save them the bother.
Don't try that with a librarian. For some reason, this profession seems to attract the sort of personality that thrives on adversity, so they'll just take a grim satisfaction in dying in place. I think it has something to do with the fact that nobody's trying real hard to ban books these days.
Yeah, it's no coincidence that I'm still on good terms with everyone there. They'd invite me to the goodbye drinks when people left, stuff like that.
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BillyIdleWhat does "katana" mean?It means "Japanese sword."Registered Userregular
I actually had to read the book about Hubspot for a class last year. I totally didn't and just wrote my paper based on articles and the synopsis, but I remember it seeming like more of a cult than a workplace. But then again we millennials are our own cult.
Which, from an accounting point of view i totally get, but that money has still been spent. As an employee I still need it to be reimbursed, and there will be people on field work deployment with spotty internet access who would have a very hard time keeping up with rolling expenses.
And when you have an institution as large as this one, three months is an eye blink in red-tape years.
Really I'm just bitching about the meta-issue, where in large enough organizations the employees end up working around the bureaucracy rather than the bureaucracy enabling the employees. It's a particularly fraught issue in universities.
"We won't reimburse you for expenses more than 90 days old" is fairly standard. But that means if you just bothered filing 100 days later. If you filed a week in and we didn't get to it? Sod off.
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Last year I submitted a reimbursement and it took four months for me to be paid.
So this year, when I submitted one for a conference at the end of March, I didn't worry too much when it got to June without hearing anything. I kind of meant to chase it up, but I got a lot of shit on my plate and also didn't want to harass our administrator, who by and large is very good.
... Except that yesterday she sent me an email telling me she'd lost my expense report under some papers on her desk and only just found it, and couldn't submit it because theyve moved to a new expenses system which has a ninety day cut off on report submissions.
Eventually managed to wrangle 90% of the expenses through, im still $100 down but she's promised to balance that with me somehow. But holy shit is this a great way to ensure I am on your back about every damn thing from now on.
I do loathe corporate speak like "delightion" though. God, spare me from corporate nerd types trying to make up new words for "sell more of the things."
The biggest indictment it had was of the sales staff and I've yet to encounter a company, in articles or in personal experience, that didn't have some of the most awful human beings in sales, so that doesn't feel like an issue specific to them.
To be fair, if a company is the kind of company that tells a fired employee that they're moving on to better things, it is clearly a true statement.
Hiring a salesman is like reaching into a bag of clowns and hoping you don't pull out one that has a knife
My company has been diplomatically referring to them as "resource actions". Took a couple of conversations until I caught on to what that meant.
Edit: This is on a "company news" level, obviously, not an individual "you were resource action'd" level.
"You're going to a farm upstate."
they're not actually people
Which is far more accurate.
Yeah... that's a perfect way to permanently lose my benefit of the doubt. We don't make enough for that kind of bullshit.
If you're not becoming bitter and unhappy with your coworkers are you even really working?
I don't know why this tickled me but it did.
The federal government reimbursed me for my hotel and car rental costs within two weeks of the travel.
The US federal government was faster than your person...
Apparently this new system is supposed to speed up repayments. Having a ninety day hard cutoff is crazy though. It's perfectly possible for me to be on a research trip for that long.
One of the ways that I figured out it wasn't me was that after I left, I got on really well with the boss that I complained about all the time. Turns out she's a really nice lady and the problem was that I just didn't want to be there.
It's probably not a hard cut off, but, a configurable option to make sure someone doesn't get lazy and her manager is cutting down on shit that's like 8+ months late being entered into the system.
Was it a people issue or something? (micromanagement or policies from upper management?) Or more just general resentment towards the job?
"byeeeeee"
And when you have an institution as large as this one, three months is an eye blink in red-tape years.
Really I'm just bitching about the meta-issue, where in large enough organizations the employees end up working around the bureaucracy rather than the bureaucracy enabling the employees. It's a particularly fraught issue in universities.
It was a square peg in a round hole to an extent. I don't really fit into marketing culture very well, and like most people who don't fit in I react to that by being reductive about that culture. I talked shit on marketers all the time (still do!) but they never talked shit on me, so who's the dick? The job required me to have a public persona as a marketing type, something that I couldn't really do.
There were also work fit things, like I don't work well in an open plan environment, it makes me anxious and I felt stressed out all the time because of it. I had the occasional standard "I don't like that guy" problems but nothing major. When I left Montreal I went and said goodbye to all of them and was treated very warmly, because everyone involved realised "no one was a bad guy here, it just wasn't a good fit"
They taught me an incredible amount, gave me a ton of opportunities that I didn't really deserve and essentially gift-wrapped me the opportunity to grow into a much better career. I'm very, very grateful for that.
And they didn't do that, they worked really hard with me and would have continued to do so for as long as it took, but eventually I said "look this isn't working and I don't think it's your fault, I'm sorry." I didn't want to push them until they had no choice but to fire me.
make your life hell gradually, so that eventually you'll leave voluntarily and save them the bother.
It was doing it with Iruka for a bit there too.
Don't try that with a librarian. For some reason, this profession seems to attract the sort of personality that thrives on adversity, so they'll just take a grim satisfaction in dying in place. I think it has something to do with the fact that nobody's trying real hard to ban books these days.
Yeah, it's no coincidence that I'm still on good terms with everyone there. They'd invite me to the goodbye drinks when people left, stuff like that.
"We won't reimburse you for expenses more than 90 days old" is fairly standard. But that means if you just bothered filing 100 days later. If you filed a week in and we didn't get to it? Sod off.
Did you exchange any e-mails with each other? They've got like ten different messaging system vectors.