The Literature Club is full of cute girls! Will you write the way into their heart? This game is not suitable for children or those who are easily disturbed.
I need people to talk with about this. Trust me on this one, it's worth your time. And don't look anything up, because you WILL be spoiled.
Pretty sure it came up in the G&T thread in the last couple days - might look there.
The signal to noise ratio on Steam has zero effect on my life other than that I'm constantly reading about how bad it is.
Right, but that's because you aren't an indie developer who has gambled the last two years of their life and all their savings on making a quality game that gets immediately lost in the crowd of bullshit.
Pretty sure no one in this thread is tho
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The Literature Club is full of cute girls! Will you write the way into their heart? This game is not suitable for children or those who are easily disturbed.
I need people to talk with about this. Trust me on this one, it's worth your time. And don't look anything up, because you WILL be spoiled.
It's free, by the way.
I wanna play it but several people content warned me.
The signal to noise ratio on Steam has zero effect on my life other than that I'm constantly reading about how bad it is.
Right, but that's because you aren't an indie developer who has gambled the last two years of their life and all their savings on making a quality game that gets immediately lost in the crowd of bullshit.
Pretty sure no one in this thread is tho
I still think this matters?
Like, yeah, maybe it doesn't matter directly to anyone here, right now, but I'm definitely hoping to put a game on steam. That signal-to-noise ratio is something i care about.
The signal to noise ratio on Steam has zero effect on my life other than that I'm constantly reading about how bad it is.
Right, but that's because you aren't an indie developer who has gambled the last two years of their life and all their savings on making a quality game that gets immediately lost in the crowd of bullshit.
Pretty sure no one in this thread is tho
I'm just pointing out that while it might not seem like a big deal at first blush to most folks, it's actually a very big deal for a lot of people who are trying to make a living making games.
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I go to Steam to buy exactly the game I'm looking for
Years back, Steam used to be a big deal for indies because getting onto that new release list was how they got noticed in the first place
I can't imagine trying to use the Steam store to browse games anymore
The Literature Club is full of cute girls! Will you write the way into their heart? This game is not suitable for children or those who are easily disturbed.
I need people to talk with about this. Trust me on this one, it's worth your time. And don't look anything up, because you WILL be spoiled.
It's free, by the way.
I wanna play it but several people content warned me.
The signal to noise ratio on Steam has zero effect on my life other than that I'm constantly reading about how bad it is.
Right, but that's because you aren't an indie developer who has gambled the last two years of their life and all their savings on making a quality game that gets immediately lost in the crowd of bullshit.
Release an album independantly and marvel at the neverending tide of garbage albums that come out nonstop and make news and reviews sites avoid unknown material like the plague.
Put out a comic and become suddenly aware of the 18 billion horrific no-effort comics you're suddenly trying to distinguish yourself from.
Publish a book independantly and holy shit, every subhuman crackpot and shithead in the universe has also published a book and is yelling in the same space you're trying to occupy
Make a short film...
Do a painting...
This is not a videogame problem. This is what happens when you do literally anything creative independantly and take it to market.
Basically, Steam is turning into last gasp K-mart, but still insanely successful because Wal-Mart and Target don't exist.
Nah, Steam isn't poorly lit and depressing as fuck to be in.
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I spoiled myself on the anime game and its kinda in this tough position of me wishing I hadn't done that because it sounds kinda rad, but if I hadn't spoiled myself I wouldn't have wanted to play it in the first place.
Steam is providing a legitimate launch platform and a metric buttfuckload of logistical support to devs that would be completely fuckin' hosed without it.
Hosting, point of sale, customer support, sales tracking, community support, marketing tools, all of that shit. That represents a ton of manpower, time, and capital that Indie McDeverson doesn't have to spend.
He's still gotta market his game, he's still gotta put in the work to distinguish himself from the inexorable tide of sewage, but holy fuck launching on steam gives you so much goddamn help.
Without steam, I McD has a fuckload of extra work to do, and STILL has to compete with the same river of sewage.
Your extremely good game got drowned in the torrent of shit? It isn't the shit's fault. You failed at marketing. It isn't Steam's fault for not doing your job for you.
Yeah it seems a bit off to expect Steam to do the marketing for you. Yes it sucks that an indy can make a quality product at huge risk and have it flop due to a competitive market place, but I don't think that's necessarily on Steams shoulders. Not to say that Steam doesn't have it's fair share of other issues
I never used steams front page as a purchasing guide anyways so a more flooded marketplace doesn't really impact me.
The signal to noise ratio on Steam has zero effect on my life other than that I'm constantly reading about how bad it is.
Right, but that's because you aren't an indie developer who has gambled the last two years of their life and all their savings on making a quality game that gets immediately lost in the crowd of bullshit.
I dunno man did I say somewhere that I was speaking from the perspective of an indie developer
I just wish I had the days back where every game on Steam was guaranteed to be at least competently made
Disagree. A ton of games I like wouldn't even exist. If letting the weird, niche, bizarre and awesome games in the door means we have to track some shit in with them, then bring on the shit.
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If you want Half Life 3, you gotta be willing to put up with a Bad Rats every now and then.
we're never going to get half life 3 so that metaphor sort of falls apart
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I don't even care about Half Life 3.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Ah thanks, I'd forgotten about that one. I think it's buried on my wishlist somewhere because I wanted to investigate it later. I pretty much use my wishlist as "this looks interesting, I should look up more information about it later."
Man I forgot how much harder DMC 3 is than DmC colon the rebootining.
Also this PC port kinda sucks!
I only have DMC4 on PC (which seemed to work fine) but was planning on picking up DMC3 soon so I don't have to use my PS2. I think I'd heard that if you get the Style Switching mod that it fixes a bunch of the PC issues or something like that.
The Literature Club is full of cute girls! Will you write the way into their heart? This game is not suitable for children or those who are easily disturbed.
I need people to talk with about this. Trust me on this one, it's worth your time. And don't look anything up, because you WILL be spoiled.
It's free, by the way.
on a scale of Azumanga Daioh to School Days what am I looking at here?
Steam is providing a legitimate launch platform and a metric buttfuckload of logistical support to devs that would be completely fuckin' hosed without it.
Hosting, point of sale, customer support, sales tracking, community support, marketing tools, all of that shit. That represents a ton of manpower, time, and capital that Indie McDeverson doesn't have to spend.
He's still gotta market his game, he's still gotta put in the work to distinguish himself from the inexorable tide of sewage, but holy fuck launching on steam gives you so much goddamn help.
Without steam, I McD has a fuckload of extra work to do, and STILL has to compete with the same river of sewage.
Your extremely good game got drowned in the torrent of shit? It isn't the shit's fault. You failed at marketing. It isn't Steam's fault for not doing your job for you.
Steam does good for developers too, yeah. I'm not arguing that Steam is only detrimental or only fantastic. But there's problems that have been in existence for a while now that need to be addressed and have only just begun to get the most token of improvements.
Sorry if I came off as too aggressive about this, Knob/Tube/whoever.
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I'm not even a huge fan of the series, but you can't possibly say that with a straight face. Maybe you don't enjoy them, that's okay, that's fine. But you can't deny that they literally changed computer games. For the better.
The Literature Club is full of cute girls! Will you write the way into their heart? This game is not suitable for children or those who are easily disturbed.
I need people to talk with about this. Trust me on this one, it's worth your time. And don't look anything up, because you WILL be spoiled.
It's free, by the way.
on a scale of Azumanga Daioh to School Days what am I looking at here?
From what I know of those two things, it's not really comparable.
In fact, I'm not entirely sure what to compare it to without giving away the game.
Here's a couple of games that sprang to mind if you really want to know:
Undertale and Imscared
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I'm not even a huge fan of the series, but you can't possibly say that with a straight face. Maybe you don't enjoy them, that's okay, that's fine. But you can't deny that they literally changed computer games. For the better.
Birth of a Nation did the same thing for movies, but it's still bad
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Pretty sure it came up in the G&T thread in the last couple days - might look there.
Pretty sure no one in this thread is tho
I wanna play it but several people content warned me.
It's probably definitely not for me right now.
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I still think this matters?
Like, yeah, maybe it doesn't matter directly to anyone here, right now, but I'm definitely hoping to put a game on steam. That signal-to-noise ratio is something i care about.
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
I'm just pointing out that while it might not seem like a big deal at first blush to most folks, it's actually a very big deal for a lot of people who are trying to make a living making games.
Years back, Steam used to be a big deal for indies because getting onto that new release list was how they got noticed in the first place
I can't imagine trying to use the Steam store to browse games anymore
That's enitrely fair. This game is a good example of when trigger warnings should be deployed.
these pictures with that warning makes me very suspicious that this game is horny in a bad way
is it actually a sfw game?
I've always said a cartoon representation of John C. McGinley belonged on Steam
If that was the reason for the content warning, there's no way I'd be recommending it. It doesn't go down that road.
That said, I wouldn't advise playing it at work for other reasons.
Release an album independantly and marvel at the neverending tide of garbage albums that come out nonstop and make news and reviews sites avoid unknown material like the plague.
Put out a comic and become suddenly aware of the 18 billion horrific no-effort comics you're suddenly trying to distinguish yourself from.
Publish a book independantly and holy shit, every subhuman crackpot and shithead in the universe has also published a book and is yelling in the same space you're trying to occupy
Make a short film...
Do a painting...
This is not a videogame problem. This is what happens when you do literally anything creative independantly and take it to market.
Nah, Steam isn't poorly lit and depressing as fuck to be in.
Hosting, point of sale, customer support, sales tracking, community support, marketing tools, all of that shit. That represents a ton of manpower, time, and capital that Indie McDeverson doesn't have to spend.
He's still gotta market his game, he's still gotta put in the work to distinguish himself from the inexorable tide of sewage, but holy fuck launching on steam gives you so much goddamn help.
Without steam, I McD has a fuckload of extra work to do, and STILL has to compete with the same river of sewage.
Your extremely good game got drowned in the torrent of shit? It isn't the shit's fault. You failed at marketing. It isn't Steam's fault for not doing your job for you.
I never used steams front page as a purchasing guide anyways so a more flooded marketplace doesn't really impact me.
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I dunno man did I say somewhere that I was speaking from the perspective of an indie developer
if so I can see why you got so mad
Disagree. A ton of games I like wouldn't even exist. If letting the weird, niche, bizarre and awesome games in the door means we have to track some shit in with them, then bring on the shit.
ie. A large interactive world where all the npcs are on their own schedule and you repeat the timeframe over and over until you get it right?
nah
Steamworld Dig (the first one) sort of has one...
Steam profile.
Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
Also this PC port kinda sucks!
man, this game was so....so close. it's good but it could have been great with better writing and some changes to the mechanics.
Ah thanks, I'd forgotten about that one. I think it's buried on my wishlist somewhere because I wanted to investigate it later. I pretty much use my wishlist as "this looks interesting, I should look up more information about it later."
I only have DMC4 on PC (which seemed to work fine) but was planning on picking up DMC3 soon so I don't have to use my PS2. I think I'd heard that if you get the Style Switching mod that it fixes a bunch of the PC issues or something like that.
on a scale of Azumanga Daioh to School Days what am I looking at here?
Steam does good for developers too, yeah. I'm not arguing that Steam is only detrimental or only fantastic. But there's problems that have been in existence for a while now that need to be addressed and have only just begun to get the most token of improvements.
Sorry if I came off as too aggressive about this, Knob/Tube/whoever.
Ha ha wow dude no, dude, no.
I'm not even a huge fan of the series, but you can't possibly say that with a straight face. Maybe you don't enjoy them, that's okay, that's fine. But you can't deny that they literally changed computer games. For the better.
From what I know of those two things, it's not really comparable.
In fact, I'm not entirely sure what to compare it to without giving away the game.
Here's a couple of games that sprang to mind if you really want to know:
Birth of a Nation did the same thing for movies, but it's still bad
wait that was a dumb hot take too, I'm part of the problem