[Game of Thrones] Beric Dondarrion and the Scotch Zombies

Capt Howdy

Fleeb wrote: »

Based on what?

Hair color looking more Targaryen than Lannister (which I like since all three of them are blonde), but mainly because in the books the Targaryen (SP!) King had the right to sleep with other people's wives. And Tywin really hated the Mad King for reasons other than being a nutter. There is a chance none of Tywin's children are biologically his.

Edit for a link that explains it better than I can.

https://winteriscoming.net/2016/05/06/game-of-thrones-theorycrafting-is-tyrion-lannister-actually-a-targaryen[/spolier]

Fleeb

Hmm, very interesting, thanks for the link. Relies very heavily upon book quotes though, which never made it into the show. I guess I'll consider this as being potentially plausible and my wife is not completely insane. But the way the show writers have taken an axe to many book storylines I really wonder if it'll bear out in the final season.

fRAWRst

(the final season will be a medicore made for tv movie that basically has 3 major plot points)

Capt Howdy

They've laid enough of a foundation for me to believe it, much like the whole Jon Snow being one thing.

Psykoma

I don't really buy the connection, though I can see where people get the implication.
I also don't really think it'd be an interesting development if it were true.

Poorochondriac

I think it's very possible, and I also think I'd be very disappointed if they went there

If someone born in shitty circumstances can claw their way to the top with cunning, guile, and luck, and can have their hard experiences inform their rule and influence it positively, that's a nice message.

If every competent leader has the same ancestry, that starts to feel a bit... Eugenics-y?

I don't really have the mental energy to unpack this in a deep dive, but it would annoy me in the same way "Rey is secretly a Skywalker" would annoy me.

rhylith

It feels like they cut that theory off in the show because

There’s only 2 living dragons now, and they’d need the triumphant shot of all living targaryens riding into the final battle on their dragons.

But I could see the books going that way......if they ever get finished.

Fleeb

Poorochondriac wrote: »

but it would annoy me in the same way "Rey is secretly a Skywalker" would annoy me.

Exactly! Thank you, I've been looking for the right context as to why this theory bugs me. This is it on the nose.

JayKaos

Yeah I'm not a fan

Kinda neuters Tyrion's whole arc with tywin, and to an extent his siblings, if it turns out that's not really his father

a5ehren

Yeah I've definitely seen the theory before, but I personally don't buy into it.

Photosaurus

For a series that was supposed to shun traditional fantasy tropes,

having yet another secret prince with magic dragon connections is pretty damned tropey. Like, the Jon thing was handled pretty well in the books, though they haven't really gotten to the reveal. I just can't imagine doing the same for Tyrion without it being a huge eye-rolling moment.

rhylith

The hints may have also been added to throw people off the trail of Jon.

Or it could’ve been an idea Martin had that he decided not to follow through with.

Or it’s unintentional and the fans just love analyzing shit.

But either way it’s not an unreasonable theory and it was a lot of fun speculating who the prince who was promised would actually be.

Photosaurus

I mean, fans were analyzing Dohtraki soup temperatures a few years back. The lack of new content has definitely driven some interesting speculation.

So It Goes

fRAWRst wrote: »

(the final season will be a medicore made for tv movie that basically has 3 major plot points)

And I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of it

Can't wait!

Kaplar

Photosaurus wrote: »

I mean, fans were analyzing Dohtraki soup temperatures a few years back. The lack of new content has definitely driven some interesting speculation.

Wait what?

Gvzbgul

The secret to GoT is that it was always fantasy bullshit.

fRAWRst

So It Goes wrote: »

fRAWRst wrote: »

(the final season will be a medicore made for tv movie that basically has 3 major plot points)

And I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of it

Can't wait!

same! ill watch all of it and will post my thoughts/fun stuff all the same like last season

ill still have 1-4 as pretty excellent translations of books 1-3

just so odd compared to earlier seasons

fRAWRst

Kaplar wrote: »

Photosaurus wrote: »

I mean, fans were analyzing Dohtraki soup temperatures a few years back. The lack of new content has definitely driven some interesting speculation.

Wait what?

khal drogos soup was hot enough to melt gold


thats really really hot


maybe he made it that hot

just to test danys and viserys resilance to fire

cause illyrio is illuminati

#followthedrogo

Fleeb

Heh, I actually got assaulted with a donut when I watched that scene with the wife and commented that there was no way that fire was hot enough to melt gold

Naphtali

Is it sad that I mostly want the last season for the chrys reviews?

Capt Howdy

I prefer the Ozzy Man reviews.

Blake T

fRAWRst wrote: »

Kaplar wrote: »

Photosaurus wrote: »

I mean, fans were analyzing Dohtraki soup temperatures a few years back. The lack of new content has definitely driven some interesting speculation.

Wait what?

khal drogos soup was hot enough to melt gold


thats really really hot


maybe he made it that hot

just to test danys and viserys resilance to fire

cause illyrio is illuminati

#followthedrogo

I mean, I feel reasonably confident in saying you can't melt gold in a regular fire anyway, to much heat escapes.

Hobnail

As an accredited metallurgist I will melt gold in a campfire soup pot and pour it into the skull holes of your enemies for an extremely competitive rate

Ceno

Hobnail wrote: »

As an accredited metallurgist I will melt gold in a campfire soup pot and pour it into the skull holes of your enemies for an extremely competitive rate

I will do the same but for less than whatever Hobnail is charging.

MalReynolds

Ceno wrote: »

Hobnail wrote: »

As an accredited metallurgist I will melt gold in a campfire soup pot and pour it into the skull holes of your enemies for an extremely competitive rate

I will do the same but for less than whatever Hobnail is charging.

I do it just to practice my craft!

I get paid in experience!

Please leave me a good Yelp review so I can go from internship to salaryman.

I just want to get paid for all the gold I melt and then pour into people's heads. Is that too much to ask?

McFodder

You are all fools who should do it just for exposure.

There will be literally dozens of Dothraki there to witness your gold melting who would otherwise never know you existed. You should be thanking me for the opportunity to melt gold for me!

Xeddicus

JayKaos wrote: »

Yeah I'm not a fan

Kinda neuters Tyrion's whole arc with tywin, and to an extent his siblings, if it turns out that's not really his father

Just like Jon it is too late for it to really matter. Tywin IS/WAS his father, full stop.

Capt Howdy

MalReynolds wrote: »

Ceno wrote: »

Hobnail wrote: »

As an accredited metallurgist I will melt gold in a campfire soup pot and pour it into the skull holes of your enemies for an extremely competitive rate

I will do the same but for less than whatever Hobnail is charging.

I do it just to practice my craft!

I get paid in experience!

Please leave me a good Yelp review so I can go from internship to salaryman.

I just want to get paid for all the gold I melt and then pour into people's heads. Is that too much to ask?

I'll probably just kill them and take the gold, then write myself a good Yelp review using their phone. *shrugs* Everyone has their own way.

BlankZoe

Naomi Watts has been cast as the lead in the still untitled or detailed GoT prequel show

Munkus Beaver

Blankzilla wrote: »

Naomi Watts has been cast as the lead in the still untitled or detailed GoT prequel show

That’s an interesting choice to play Duncan the Tall.

Grey Ghost

It has since been revealed that the show is called The Long Night and will cover... well, that, and the end of the Age of Heroes and the formation of the Night's Watch

fRAWRst

I know im being negative, but i kinda dont want to see behind that curtain

Grey Ghost

I don't either, really
I don't think any of the planned prequel shows should happen to be quite honest

Psykoma

I'd be interested in something which didn't touch westeros. Maybe something on the eastern side of the bone mountains of essos.
Or maybe like a boating series exploring sothoryos.

Just something expanding the world.

Muddy Water

I honestly don't give much of a shit about Westeros. I follow Game of Thrones because of the characters and plot. This isn't Peter Jackson's Middle-Earth where I'm in love with the world itself. So yeah, just being tangentially related to GoT isn't going to get me to watch. And based on the lack of depth of characterisation in the last couple of seasons, I'm not really optimistic about any prequels.

Mr. G

I have to bite my tongue now on prequels because Breaking Bad ended and they said "I know what we should do, make an entire show about the funny lawyer guy" and it's better than the original show

Doctor Detroit

So we have Better Call Saul, Godfather II, and...is that it for worthwhile prequels?

Mr. G

I haven't finished it, nobody has and if anyone says they have they're a liar because it's a million years long, but Red Dead 2 went "we're gonna make this a prequel" to a resounding "why" and it's turned out fascinating

Kaplar

I'd be interested in seeing what the doom of valyria is all about.

Theodore Floosevelt

Kaplar wrote: »

I'd be interested in seeing what the doom of valyria is all about.

volcano go boom because of magic