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Trump's Afghanistan Policy Speech: 9 PM ET

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    "We are not nation-building again, we are killing terrorists"

    So we are going to be there forever.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    At least he said we won't be nation building anymore

    Of course that's one good sentence in 18 minutes (currently) of wted hmm mug hgffdfcyj

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    Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    Oh so it is literally the same exact play he did of "I'll crush ISIS within thirty days of being in office."

    That is, there's nothing but a slow, wet fart coming out of his ass.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    We will no longer be nation building, we will be killing terrorists.

    but... uhh... is the Taliban part of that declaration? Because if so, killing them will create one hell of a vacuum if you aren't willing to engage in nation building.

    This sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    At least he said we won't be nation building anymore

    Of course that's one good sentence in 18 minutes (currently) of wted hmm mug hgffdfcyj

    the degree to which most american military operations have ever nation built is highly debateable

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Oh uh hmm

    This Pakistan India stuff

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    He's talking about Pakistan's connections to the Taliban, like he found out about it today. Wants more cooperation from Pakistan. Also want more Indian involvement... that's not peanut butter and chocolate.

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    BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    "We are not nation-building again. We are killing terrorists."

    Holy mother of hell.
    There's some saying I remember about the only thing that grows when you put terrorists in the ground being more terrorists, but I can't fully recall who said it.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    He kind of struggled with Indo-Pacific

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    ....That's how the military has worked since forever?

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    And now he is quoting Dubya, but sounds dumber.

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    TetraRayTetraRay Registered User regular
    He is lifting rules of engagement for our forces? That seems like a humanitarian disaster about to happen

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    This fucking sucks. Listened to songs protesting this stupid war in highschool.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    That speech is freaking Pakistan now. Hes more or less saying we're going to ally with India so long as Pakistan is involved.

    And I guess we'll be in Afghanistan forever.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Killing more terrorists also means killing way more civilians. Congratulations trump voting America, you are finally the bad guys the terrorists always wanted you to be

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Couscous wrote: »
    "We are not nation-building again, we are killing terrorists"

    So we are going to be there forever.

    This was in Axios, earlier.
    "Operation Resolute Support": While the Trump administration is explicitly repudiating both the idea and the phrase "nation building," ORS is a train, advise and assist mission to help the Afghan army fight the Taliban, an official tells me. It's meant to help keep the government from collapsing while reversing Taliban gains.

    This plan is made up entirely of dumb rhetoric. Besides the troop surge that he doesn't want to confirm, I still have no idea what he's changing.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Killing more terrorists also means killing way more civilians. Congratulations trump voting America, you are finally the bad guys the terrorists always wanted you to be

    at the risk of a thread derail, large portions of america and the american government have always been those bad guys

    the presumption that the terrorists have never had rational reason to hate america is part of the mythology that keeps the war going

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    So this is sounding an awful lot like the status quo

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Trump can't even announce bad policy effectively. He basically said nothing. We know less

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited August 2017
    Trump has announced America's new policy of no longer tolerating terrorism against itself.

    Elki on
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    BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Nuclear is explicitly on the table.

    Bursar on
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Well this is a big nothing burger.

    Completely worthless rhetoric.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    Nuclear is explicitly on the table.

    I missed that

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    yeah, there is absolutely nothing being said here aside from some platitudes about not nation building, but just killing bad guys because we prevail at what we do because we are Americans.

    And now he is slowly enunciating Arlington. National. Cemetery *snort*

    God I hate this man.

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    TetraRayTetraRay Registered User regular
    what a hollow, vapid, totally devoid of any substance, bunch of hot fucking air

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    That was at best a waste of time

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I was cooking dinner just now but the immediate summary responses I'm seeing is "no new policy actually announced." Is that correct?

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I was cooking dinner just now but the immediate summary responses I'm seeing is "no new policy actually announced." Is that correct?

    Yup!

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    reminder that India and Pakistan are nuclear powers and that siding with one against the other is a really poor strategy.

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    I mean, if Trump was telling the truth there will be no new resources dedicated to infrastructure building in Afghanistan

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I was cooking dinner just now but the immediate summary responses I'm seeing is "no new policy actually announced." Is that correct?

    There's a new policy, but it's a secret, because he doesn't want to give anything away to the enemy.

    Because he doesn't understand how this stuff works, it sounds like.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Trump has announced America's new policy of no longer tolerating terrorism against it.

    Finally

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    reminder that India and Pakistan are nuclear powers and that siding with one against the other is a really poor strategy.

    Yeah I'm sure Pakistan was SUPER pleased with this

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    BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    Nuclear is explicitly on the table.

    I missed that

    "Under my administration, many billions of dollars more is being spent on our military, and this includes vast amounts being spent on our nuclear arsenal and missile defense."

    This might be a North Korea reference slipped into the Afghanistan speech, but when he's giving a speech about an ongoing war and casually mentions that by the way we're going to have a whole lot more nukes available, I can't stop from thinking it's relevant.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    "We are not nation-building again, we are killing terrorists"

    So we are going to be there forever.

    Also this line is actually very scary. I'd much rather be in the nation building business than the killing people business I think. It's not a good look. Like at least say bring to justice or something.

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    DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    TetraRay wrote: »
    what a hollow, vapid, totally devoid of any substance, bunch of hot fucking air

    I can't wait for the articles calling the speech "presidential," simply because Trump didn't stand up there and give us his usual off-the-cuff word vomit.

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    MillMill Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I was cooking dinner just now but the immediate summary responses I'm seeing is "no new policy actually announced." Is that correct?

    I'd like to thank all of you that watched/listened to this and condensed it down to something that only needed 10s of everyone else's time.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Bursar wrote: »
    Nuclear is explicitly on the table.

    I missed that

    "Under my administration, many billions of dollars more is being spent on our military, and this includes vast amounts being spent on our nuclear arsenal and missile defense."

    This might be a North Korea reference slipped into the Afghanistan speech, but when he's giving a speech about an ongoing war and casually mentions that by the way we're going to have a whole lot more nukes available, I can't stop from thinking it's relevant.

    Well all the presidents since truman have spent $texas on our nuclear arsenal one way or another

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Richard Reeves was reporting on president Ford for New York Magazine a long time ago, and as far as I'm concerned he was really writing about Trump when he wrote this.

    So it went as President Ford traveled 16,685 miles campaigning for Republican candidates in the month before Election Day, 1974. It was a big story — Nightly News, Page One! — with airport announcers parodying The China Trip at every stop. But journalism has its limits. Journalism is covering something, even when there is nothing. There is no accepted technique that deals adequately with the president’s travels. Do you write:

    Grand Junction, Colorado, Nov. 2 — President Ford had nothing to say and said it badly to a friendly and respectful but slightly stunned crowd of 5,000.

    It is not a question of saying the emperor has no clothes — there is a question of whether there is an emperor.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Trump is president of the USA somehow. From four years ago:

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