[Sysadmin] Nightmare fuel

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Look.

    What the fuck is happening

    How is this not your "Bowen: Ladies" signature yet?

    I guess I could just link to "A tale of porn, drugs, spam" google results and make that my sig.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Also, I'll give an Internet cookie to anybody who guesses what the actual problem was.

    It was blitheringly simple.

    the fact that they said it was a MAC address makes me think something to do with ipv6

    A cookie for you, sir.

    He was looking at the server's IPv6 address.

    Have you tried turning your coworker off and on again?

    That seems like it would end up as a trip to HR.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Turning off and on coworkers is my specialty.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Turning off and on coworkers is my specialty.

    Mostly off, I assume.

    also, Ladies

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Turning off and on coworkers is my specialty.

    Now you're just gunning for it and it's less fun.

    Way to ruin it.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    How am I not fired yet?

    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    That was their first mistake.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Thawmus wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Turning off and on coworkers is my specialty.

    Now you're just gunning for it and it's less fun.

    Way to ruin it.

    GOTTEM

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    How am I not fired yet?

    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    That was their first mistake.

    didn't you just accept another job?

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    How am I not fired yet?

    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    That was their first mistake.

    wat

  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Wait.. . .

    You didn't take the offer and stay did you?

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Entaru wrote: »
    Wait.. . .

    You didn't take the offer and stay did you?

    No.

    I put my two weeks in and confirmed today that the 9th would be my last day. My current boss called me in and asked why I was leaving.

    I let them know exactly why I was leaving. It wasn't pretty, but it wasn't like I blew up at him. My boss and supervisor have been aces.

    Basically I did what I could so the people staying here stop getting all this fucking bullshit from other departments who shove their jobs on us because they just don't feel like doing them anymore.

    jungleroomx on
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Like I said before, I was considering it until we got development pulling some bullshit as per the norm.

    And then today we have development AND conversions pulling bullshit as per the norm.

    Also, sales, who sold them a certain interface for a software package but GAVE THEM A FREE FUCKING HOSTED SERVER.

    Yeah nah fuck this.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    And I bet that sales person still gets a hecking big comission too.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    This is why people were confused.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    This is why people were confused.

    That's not my reason for not being confused.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DrovekDrovek Registered User regular
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    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    This is why people were confused.

    It's their version of jrxnotleavingsayswhat?

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Drovek wrote: »
    .
    I just got asked what my reason is for not leaving.

    This is why people were confused.

    It's their version of jrxnotleavingsayswhat?

    Oh shit my bad lol

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Any of you guys dealing with the new EU GDPR compliance? I don't work in IT but we handle personal data, so it's been "a thing" here for the past year. "What do you mean we can't store everything in those cheap offshore servers anymore?!? Can we use 'the cloud'? By the way, what is 'the cloud'?"

    /facepalm

    Dealing with this in that we have to request exemption access every time we need to troubleshoot a downed host in the EU. In the next couple of months theyre going to officially start setting up the EU office to pick up that work, though.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I'm taking a class on securing Linux systems this semester, the only previous experience I have previously is some very light Red Hat experience when I worked at the movie theater, and most of the stuff I was locked out of, even as the manager of the projection booth.

    I gotta say, wow! Its just really easy once you get the commands down and its so useful. It use to intimidate the hell out of me when I was younger, but now, its great.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Certificates are fucking stupid annoying bullshit

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    idiot IT that say "nou" when you tell them that they're the ones that have the problem after they tell you "the problem is on your end" are frustrating

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    idiot IT that say "nou" when you tell them that they're the ones that have the problem after they tell you "the problem is on your end" are frustrating

    The worst is when you're that guy.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    idiot IT that say "nou" when you tell them that they're the ones that have the problem after they tell you "the problem is on your end" are frustrating

    The worst is when you're that guy.

    As long as you have the proof to back up the claim, by all means.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    Or when you later find out it’s some arcane legacy bullshit put in place before you started. I mean, you asked but they said that wasn’t it...

  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    That's one of my vendors and the constant issues with have with that app. He always blames it on my network. There's only so much I can do to show you that my connectivity to your server is lightning fast over the 1gig fiber, but as soon as we try to use your app it's like we're on dial up sometimes. And no, you don't need more RAM or cores on your server, you are only actively using half of what we've allocated you last time you complained and that's when we're busy. It often sits below 10%.

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  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    is it unreasonable for me to consider this situation bullshit?

    we have an SCCM that pushes out all sorts of applications
    worked with the SCCM team to get some newer ones packaged up and put into the sytem
    on some machines shit just doesn't install, you hit go, it no go
    deskside does the basic troubleshooting, make sure SCCM is installed right, updates are up to date, the computer isn't obviously fucked, etc
    send ticket up to SCCM team all like "hey this package doesn't work right"
    it gets kicked back down to deskside all "please troubleshoot, here's a big bullshit list of reqs before we'll look at the ticket" (want error codes [lol it fails silently], all sorts of logs, dumb bullshit like ip and mac address)

    I'm over here like... motherfuckers you're Tier 3 not us
    do your damn job and fix your services

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    That's one of my vendors and the constant issues with have with that app. He always blames it on my network. There's only so much I can do to show you that my connectivity to your server is lightning fast over the 1gig fiber, but as soon as we try to use your app it's like we're on dial up sometimes. And no, you don't need more RAM or cores on your server, you are only actively using half of what we've allocated you last time you complained and that's when we're busy. It often sits below 10%.

    Tell them to increase the buffer size they're allocating for TCP inside their application. I've seen this exact thing happen where someone will start with like a 1kb buffer in their software and never change it and their app reads at 1kb per tick or whatever they defined for reading packets.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    is it unreasonable for me to consider this situation bullshit?

    we have an SCCM that pushes out all sorts of applications
    worked with the SCCM team to get some newer ones packaged up and put into the sytem
    on some machines shit just doesn't install, you hit go, it no go
    deskside does the basic troubleshooting, make sure SCCM is installed right, updates are up to date, the computer isn't obviously fucked, etc
    send ticket up to SCCM team all like "hey this package doesn't work right"
    it gets kicked back down to deskside all "please troubleshoot, here's a big bullshit list of reqs before we'll look at the ticket" (want error codes [lol it fails silently], all sorts of logs, dumb bullshit like ip and mac address)

    I'm over here like... motherfuckers you're Tier 3 not us
    do your damn job and fix your services

    I mean...having been "tier 3"...by the time a ticket got to me I expected routine troubleshooting and log/information collection to have been done. you don't need that level of knowledge to collect basic information so someone at that level doing it is theoretically a waste of time.

    now, usually it was faster for me to get what I needed myself, but depending on the organization they may be getting told to force their processes to be followed even if it slows a ticket down, etc.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    is it unreasonable for me to consider this situation bullshit?

    we have an SCCM that pushes out all sorts of applications
    worked with the SCCM team to get some newer ones packaged up and put into the sytem
    on some machines shit just doesn't install, you hit go, it no go
    deskside does the basic troubleshooting, make sure SCCM is installed right, updates are up to date, the computer isn't obviously fucked, etc
    send ticket up to SCCM team all like "hey this package doesn't work right"
    it gets kicked back down to deskside all "please troubleshoot, here's a big bullshit list of reqs before we'll look at the ticket" (want error codes [lol it fails silently], all sorts of logs, dumb bullshit like ip and mac address)

    I'm over here like... motherfuckers you're Tier 3 not us
    do your damn job and fix your services

    I mean.. they could maybe be nicer about it, but I don't know if I'd jump straight to "this is bullshit"?

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Every goddamn time I see loopback processing enabled in group policy my immediate reaction is that the person who enabled it either doesn't actually know what it does, or couldn't figure out how to make shit work the right way.

  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    ok true

    I'm drawing off of my experiences of never actually seeing this team fix any issues

    for instance every computer on the domain constantly has a 'new software is available' popup
    or the countless windows updates that just fail with no error message, constantly try to reinstall filling up the hard drive with broken CAB files, even if you've installed the update manually with the KB exe (which worked just fine???)


    i dunno, like, when I've been in charge of services like that I don't really need lower tier techs attaching random logfiles to a ticket, that's generally useless for me
    sure screenshot an error if you got it but just let me know you did the basic reboot/reinstall shit
    the whole point of this kind of automation system is that it works and the base level techs shouldn't have to have the advanced troubleshooting knowledge, y'know? The people in charge of the service should be treating service failures as an important issue instead of an annoyance


    sigh

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Guyz I tried to google this without much luck, does someone here know? When I run fdisk on a xen host, I get a lot of /dev/tda, /dev/tdb, etc through most of the alphabet. Are those just representations of the VMs on Xenserver? The only answer I could find on google said those are fans, but no way do I believe that.

    Peace to fashion police, I wear my heart
    On my sleeve, let the runway start
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Guyz I tried to google this without much luck, does someone here know? When I run fdisk on a xen host, I get a lot of /dev/tda, /dev/tdb, etc through most of the alphabet. Are those just representations of the VMs on Xenserver? The only answer I could find on google said those are fans, but no way do I believe that.

    hard to say, looks like it's something related to xenserver

    This will help you dive deeper into it:
    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/97676/how-to-find-the-driver-module-associated-with-a-device-on-linux/125272#125272

    Might be easier to ask another admin though

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Guyz I tried to google this without much luck, does someone here know? When I run fdisk on a xen host, I get a lot of /dev/tda, /dev/tdb, etc through most of the alphabet. Are those just representations of the VMs on Xenserver? The only answer I could find on google said those are fans, but no way do I believe that.

    hard to say, looks like it's something related to xenserver

    This will help you dive deeper into it:
    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/97676/how-to-find-the-driver-module-associated-with-a-device-on-linux/125272#125272

    Might be easier to ask another admin though

    Oh I already asked a specialist and he didn't know. My lead should be in today though, so I could ask him. He knows a lot of shit.

    Peace to fashion police, I wear my heart
    On my sleeve, let the runway start
  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Yeah I'm not sure on that. We moved away from xen, but I still have a xen host running, and it doesn't have those. And in any of the virtuals I just get /dev/xvda#

    Google seems to turn up nothing but xen shit, so it's definitely a xen thing, but what it actually is doesn't seem to be a question anyone's asking/answering.

    And this is why I'm constantly abandoning projects I like, for newer projects I like a little less.

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  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Guyz I tried to google this without much luck, does someone here know? When I run fdisk on a xen host, I get a lot of /dev/tda, /dev/tdb, etc through most of the alphabet. Are those just representations of the VMs on Xenserver? The only answer I could find on google said those are fans, but no way do I believe that.

    Best guess is "td*" is for flash storage as opposed to the "hd*" of spinning disks.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    edited January 2018
    I'm not a Xenserver guy, but here's what I'm seeing from a "get smart quick" Google:

    "tda" is short for tapdisk, which is a Xenserver term.

    A tapdisk appears to be an abstraction layer for virtual disks that acts basically as read and write caching. The virtual disk (VHD) is mounted as tda, tdb, tdc, etc. Reads and writes are sent to the tapdisk service first, before they're committed to the VHD.

    I might be slightly inaccurate here because I literally just read up on this.

    What I cannot determine is if there's a 1:1 correspondence between a mounted tapdisk and it's underlying VHD, or if tapdisks work more like linked clones.

    Here are some articles I found mildly illuminating, but I still have many unanswered questions:

    http://xenserver.org/blog/entry/read-caching.html
    http://xenserver.org/blog/entry/tapdisk3.html

    And this old PDF link:
    https://doc.yonyoucloud.com/doc/xen/xs6.1.0-storage-performance-guide.pdf

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    My 9:30-10 meeting went until 10:45. My 11-11:30 meeting went until 12:35.

    What is work?

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Guyz I tried to google this without much luck, does someone here know? When I run fdisk on a xen host, I get a lot of /dev/tda, /dev/tdb, etc through most of the alphabet. Are those just representations of the VMs on Xenserver? The only answer I could find on google said those are fans, but no way do I believe that.

    Best guess is "td*" is for flash storage as opposed to the "hd*" of spinning disks.

    Nah, they use "sd" for all SATA and USB connected storage. Doesn't matter if it's solid state or not.

    For example, I have a spinning hard drive, an SSD, and a flash drive plugged into a USB port, and they are all listed as:

    /dev/sda - my SSD
    /dev/sdb - my 1.0 TB hard drive
    /dev/sdc - my flash drive

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    Aioua wrote: »
    ok true

    I'm drawing off of my experiences of never actually seeing this team fix any issues

    for instance every computer on the domain constantly has a 'new software is available' popup
    or the countless windows updates that just fail with no error message, constantly try to reinstall filling up the hard drive with broken CAB files, even if you've installed the update manually with the KB exe (which worked just fine???)


    i dunno, like, when I've been in charge of services like that I don't really need lower tier techs attaching random logfiles to a ticket, that's generally useless for me
    sure screenshot an error if you got it but just let me know you did the basic reboot/reinstall shit
    the whole point of this kind of automation system is that it works and the base level techs shouldn't have to have the advanced troubleshooting knowledge, y'know? The people in charge of the service should be treating service failures as an important issue instead of an annoyance


    sigh

    99% chance the SCCM team is horribly understaffed. Maybe they don't even have dedicated SCCM people and they just had random Windows server techs implement it.

    In my experience, SCCM needs a lot of babysitting. I feel like if you have SCCM you need at least two people who are 100% dedicated to doing all SCCM all the time.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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