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"See, Marvel/Apple rocks, while DC/PC's are stupid."
Superman
Green Lantern
Flash
Spider-Man
Iron-Man
X-Men
I think science proves that the dash makes all the difference.
Iron man can control all forms of technology with his mind.
Some of the x-men can remake reality. One can regenerate himself from a single drop of blood.
Spider-man has precognitive abilities that were just boosted to kinda ridiculous levels, in addition to basically being the avatar of Anansi, the god of spiders and being a douchebag. Well, god of tricks and whatnot, but he is a total asshole.
Yeah but that is not the very definition of their characters. Come on! You can figure this stuff out for for yourself. You want me to sit here and argue with you all day?
And what's wrong with liking Marvel AND DC?
Now.
"Look up in the Sky"
Super-Man: Red Son
Son of Superman
In that order I find them to be good.
"Oh, you lost your parents at an early age? That's a shame, I had them until I was 8, when they were SHOT TO DEATH IN FRONT OF MY FACE."
Plus the point of DC, as has been stated like 30 fucking times, is that it's more like Greek mythology where Gods walked among men and solved/caused problems for regular humans, but regular humans worship them, whereas Marvel is a more "realistic" and fearful society who isn't too keen on a team consisting of a drunken tank, a frozen soldier, a hot green chick who can benchpress a building, and an archer beating on guys who turn into sand, or control magnetic fields.
On top of that, DC seems to be more about superhuman people dealing with human problems, and Marvel is vice-versa.
Both have their merits (Batman, Superman, Spider-man and the Hulk being some of the most iconic characters ever), both have their demerits("Power Girl is an Atlantean! I mean a kryptonian! I mean alternate-dimension Supergirl stuck in this dimension!" "Captain America is out of touch because he doesn't visit Myspace! Iron Man was just trying to help us by being a dick and starting a war! Let's fire the Hulk into space with an unstable rocket!")
But I will admit, the first link was pretty funny.
"What did you get?"
"...I got a rock."
"...Well...at least it can kill you."
"Yeah, I guess that's something."
I emphatically agree.
Which they are, they have a shitload of films coming down the pipe, many of which will probably lead-up to the Avengers movie.
Hey now.
Let's not get crazy.
;-)
greatest Superman stories ever
Did by the guy Quesada ran off
Which would be great if they can sustain a consistently high level of quality, but if all they're giving is quantity then they're not all that together. Frankly comic-book movies across the board are still pretty hit or miss.
Certainly not. We're all sane here.
If sales determined quality, Fords wouldn't blow goats.
I'm actually kinda shocked you didn't point out the old Captain America movie.
I thought about it, and the old Spider-man and Hulk TV shows. Although the Dolph Lundgren Punisher was awesome.
Didn't agree with the self-enclosed story message, but god did I also fail to approve of the Superman Returns... issue.
Anyway, Marvel is more agressive and successful with their movies on the whole, which I think we can all agree with. And the pretty much have to be, since they're not owned by Warner Brothers, and the movie business helps out the comics business. This sucess doesn't mean that DC doesn't have compelling characters or stories or that Marvel is necessarily superior. The most it says to me is that the Marvel stories translate very well into other mediums, that they're putting the right people on the projects, and that they're partially benefitting from the (wrong) perception that DC's characters are old-fashioned and out of date. I think DC can totally change that if they start making movies out of the stories that are constantly being referred to around here, like Dark Knight Returns, Birthright, Kingdom Come, etc. If they're going to play the mythical story card, they need to start producing these types of movies.
Nothing I like them both
It's the fanboys that are the problems
also these video leave out that DC is THE most importnat comicbook publisher ever
Action Comics #1
Watchmen
DKR
Vertigo
for outweigh everything MARVEL has done combined
What do you mean by important?
And why does everyone have such a hardon for DKR? Jesus, Watchmen alone invalidates the need for DKR.
and here's DC
While the quality of the movies per company is pretty much equal, there have been great movies, and there have been abominations. Marvel is, however, more organized with their films than DC is, and is making much more money at the Box Office.
In comics, their quality is pretty much equal, with Marvel on top in sales.
Notice something similar?
I never saw X3 nor Superman Returns. I only saw Elektra because it was fun to look at. I haven't seen the new Punisher because I don't think it will make me laugh nearly as much as the old one. I probably will see that one eventually, though. And then I just have something personal against Spider-man, but I'm not the only one so I don't feel I need to defend that.
Honestly I just wish all of them would lean harder on quality, particularly non-retarded qualities. It can be done, I'm sure of it.
Because it used an established charecter
That in both instances Marvel is doing a little more and doing a little better. Both in movies and in comics. More people are enjoying/paying for Marvel product then DC product.
This isn't by coincidence. With the success of DC's Batman and Batman Returns Marvel tried to duplicate that with their own movies but Hollywood fustrated them to no end. The powers that be decided to stop screwing around and take their business serious and this current success of Marvel over DC, their compitition, is the result.
Marvel deserves their current success. DC deserves to be second in comic sales and the Box office.
And character assassinates a similarly important established character.
DC could make amazing movies if they actually cared to do it right, but they don't.
Secret Wars
Fantastic Four #1
The Death of Captain Marvel
Both have amazing landmark stories, neither company can really top one another quality-wise.
I don't know, when Marvel can take a character like Blade and make a decent movie out of them while making a great deal of money, it becomes harder to defend DC in this.
And well, I know success at the box office isn't the only measure on how each studio is doing, but look at how well Spider-Man and X-Men have done compared to the new Superman and Batman movies. Marvel has to be doing something right if they can keep making this kind of money off their franchises. Granted, those two didn't do poorly by any stretch of the imagination, but neither one really made the major splash they should have.
I mean, it's basically pretty simple. Marvel, at the moment, is making the right decisions with their movies, and DC is kind of a mess. And you can argue about the quality of the movies for as long as you want, but not only is that entirely subjective (well, not entirely, it's basically irrelevant.
And I don't want to sound like a Marvel fanboy, because I'm really not. There have been plenty of shitty Marvel movies, many of which I don't want to even bother seeing. But Marvel's simply been doing a better job at getting more movies out, and a fair number of them have at least been entertaining. I really don't see how this is really even an argument, at this point, no matter how good Batman Begins or Superman Returns were.