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Domestic Abusers in the Trump Administration
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In the last week two White House officials resigned over domestic abuse allegations. The first, Rob Porter was unable to get a security clearance because of this. Despite the highly sensitive nature of his job chief of staff John Kelly continued to do nothing and claims he had no idea, even praising Porter after news broke out.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/08/john-kelly-rob-porter-security-clearance-400987
More recently Trump’s speech writer resigned following allegations of domestic abuse.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/09/trump-speechwriter-quits-over-abuse-allegations.html
Trump of course is defending them.
This thread is a split from the congressional sexual harassment thread and should be considered separate.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/08/john-kelly-rob-porter-security-clearance-400987
White House chief of staff John Kelly was told several weeks ago that multiple White House aides who had been working in the West Wing on interim security clearances would not qualify for permanent clearances.
Those aides, according to a senior administration official, included former White House staff secretary Rob Porter, who left the White House on Thursday after reports that he physically and verbally abused his two ex-wives.
More recently Trump’s speech writer resigned following allegations of domestic abuse.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/09/trump-speechwriter-quits-over-abuse-allegations.html
David Sorensen, a speechwriter who worked with Stephen Miller, a top advisor to President Donald Trump, resigned Friday after his wife accused him of being abusive during their marriage. The Washington Post first reported the allegations.
"Before we were contacted by the media, we learned last night that there were allegations," White House spokesman Raj Shah said. "We immediately confronted the staffer, he denied the allegations and he resigned today."
Trump of course is defending them.
This thread is a split from the congressional sexual harassment thread and should be considered separate.
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Kelly saying he didn’t know about Porter’s past, if honest, means he’s ignoring FBI background checks. Though given his praise I find it far more likely he’s just okay with what his buddy did.
This is not a general Trump admin thread and discussion should be specific to Porter, Stephenson, and I suppose any other admin members who are revealed as abusers.
This guy.
Gotta give props to the reporter who called him out on this.
EDIT: According to some of the comments, the reporter who called him out is Ashley Parker, who is a White House reporter for WaPo.
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It's quite something, and I don't know what to make of them.
https://www.scribd.com/document/371215532/David-Sorensen-Statement
I mean, look at Trump. He was falsely accused of being a serial sexual predator and his career just ended. Hardly anybody knows his name now.
False accusations are the REAL issue here.
That question Pence got asked really nailed his ass to the wall. Kudos I suppose for him keeping his composure but even having to be asked that question diminishes his position, as it should. He's kind of the most do-nothing VP we've had in some decades. I wasn't sure if this was going to be the "I was abused, therefore pity me because it turned me into an abuser" thing or not. This "I am rubber you are glue" shit going on with this administration is pretty embarrassing.
Readings that shit is infuriating. That is classic gaslighting. He is essentially calling her crazy, telling his friends and family that she is crazy, telling her that she is crazy and that she can’t trust her own thoughts and experiences. Every single thing that he is providing without any goddamned context could be explained by a woman trying not to be abused by her husband.
I hope he fucking loses everything.
Trump took out a full page ad in the New York Times demanding that the government execute the Central Park Five, and to this day insists they are guilty even though their convictions have been erased since they were exonerated by DNA evidence. He held a press conference with women who accused Bill Clinton of harassment and assault. During a live TV debate (and many times during his rallies) he threatened to jail his opponent, who has never been charged with a crime, far less convicted of one.
I think it’s safe to say the level of hypocrisy on display here is Biblical.
*takes breath*
He’s already out of the White House, and for different reasons, but Steve Bannon should be added to the list of known abusers too. He beat is wife, and apparently Trump’s reaction on hearing the allegations was to nickname him “Bam Bam.”
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And Porter is a real POS trying to get his wives to downplay or lie about his abuse. One of them I believe the second ex wife said she's sad for Hope Hicks his rumored girlfriend right now because its not an if it's a when he'll abuse her.
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Kelly's excuse is bullshit. By the time he was Chief of Staff he has to have seen the FBI report on the guy which from what we know has to have included his ex-wives saying "He beats the shit out of his wives, he is totally blackmailable for that".
If he saw it he’s evil. If he didn’t see it he’s negligent. Either way he should be out of a job.
There's no way he didn't see it. He's got a White House full of people being denied clearances, he's looked at the papers on them.
Or his false allegations made about Obama’s birth cirtificate before his time as a politician. Hypocrisy is the one thing he cannot disappoint with, it is expected and fulfilled.
The difference here is this scandal is transparently a security risk. I think Congress cannot simply cover for this one like everything else. And Kelly might be seeing that too.
Congress can cover for this no problem. They've been covering for Kushner for over a year now.
Just more rank hypocrisy from the party of family values.
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and everyone knows that when a woman accuses a man of abuse, whether truthfully or not, that woman is 100% always showered with riches, fame, and security in every aspect of her life.
So many famous women we know and admire today built their careers on accusing famous men of abuse.
I'm at the point where I'm convinced that Pence spends every second he isn't doing a public appearance inside of a hermetically sealed sensory deprivation tank given how oblivious he seems to be regarding the various goings on inside of the whitehouse.
How dare they use your playbook, eh Donny?
I'm sure a staffer ripped his phones from his hands before he tweeted out something truly vile.
Doesnt change the fact that hypocrisy pours from each word though.
We all know Trump is a hypocrite in a wide variety of ways, but let's only discuss those that pertain specifically to the thread topic, please.
I'm surprised that he makes public appearances. If I was Trump's Vice President, I'd be spending the whole time in an undisclosed beach-side location, with instructions to only contact me if I need to be sworn in.
The guy giving the presentation during orientation kept making the jerking off motion every time he said the phrase “conflicts of interest”.
Which is why none of them seem to understand the concept.
Pressure building to the point where Kelly had to resign as Chief of Staff would be a major boon to America. We'll see what the tenor of conversation on the Sunday shows is. In a sane world Kelly would be out for protecting domestic abusers, but I believe there's allegations he protected abusers when he was in the military as well?
The best people.
I get its fruit from the rotten tree of Trump. But covering for DV'rs and trying to use "Well he's a nice guy to me" defenses seem really gross when just about everyone in the admin is a man.
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It is kind of like that, I swear.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/11/politics/kellyanne-conway-rob-porter-sotu-cnntv/index.html
Kellyanne Conway is out today saying 1) believe the women, and 2) Kelly has the President's full support. Doesn't that usually mean that you're guilty and the President is going to fire you? Damnit Kelly, you were supposed to be the fking adult in the room.
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There must be some name for the social phenomena at play here where people maybe start out with a generally conservative mindset and gradually start to become sympathizers for heinous shit being perpetrated by others on their "team." Like they can't condemn it openly because to do that would mean siding with the enemy and losing their allies, so instead they remain silent, maybe even help the person keep it quiet. Then they start to do the mental gymnastics required to justify that to themselves and eventually the lie becomes truth to them.