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[Celeste] Just Breathe

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Celeste is a platformer by Matt Makes Games, a team comprising of Matt Thorson (of Towerfall) and Noel Berry. If you've played Super Meat Boy, you'll be right at home here in Celeste, both in terms of teaching through playing alongside gradual increase in difficulty, as well as in terms of oh my god how is this so difficult later stages. You will die. A lot.

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Gameplay constantly changes as you move from level to level, keeping the core functionality of run-jump-dash unaltered in favour of adding some new quirk to the levels to keep them fresh. In addition to that, however, is the simple and straightforward, yet well written story that makes the game incredibly charming. Your protagonist for this game is Madeline who has arrived at Celeste Mountain and made it her mission to reach the summit.

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There is a Soundtrack (Bandcamp link) by Lena Raine, which is just phenomenal, and the game itself is available on the Switch, PS4, Xbox One and Steam.

Just remember to breathe.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    I've been working on attempting to do 1A dashless, for reasons.

    ...Send help D=

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    earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    This game is tops. I beat it pretty quick but I still need to dive back in to complete the endgame stuff.

    Also, I thought I saw Matt say in an interview that they are working on porting Towerfall, which I hope is trueeee!

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    GMaster7GMaster7 Goggles Paesano Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    I'm such a big fan of this game. The level design is terrific and the music and art are just beautiful.

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    LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Just clearing out strawberries for the moment, after getting demolished by the second B-Side I attempted. I haven't played Meat Boy so I can't compare, but it's very nice: tight and precise, and quick to restart when you blow that jump for the 50th time.

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    Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    Nearly managed to rack up 1000 deaths on the chapter 6 b-side.

    I'm a bit scared by the idea of c-sides.

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    GMaster7GMaster7 Goggles Paesano Registered User regular
    Road Block wrote: »
    Nearly managed to rack up 1000 deaths on the chapter 6 b-side.

    I'm a bit scared by the idea of c-sides.

    I think I was somewhere in the 600s on that one, by far the most for me - until the Summit B-Side, where I racked up 900-something. Probably at least 200 of those on the last few screens.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Yesterday I beat the main story! 145/175 strawberries, 703 deaths (does it count B-Side deaths?). Which would probably had been a lot less if I wasn't unable to NOT grab a strawberry that I can see even if it takes fifty retries (as well as real stubborn about making unnecessarily complicated travel paths work instead of sitting back and noticing it's not actually as complicated as I'm trying to make it). Now poking around trying to get some more strawberries and doing the B-sides I was missing. Still can't find how to actually get that blue heart in Stage 2, too.

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    GMaster7GMaster7 Goggles Paesano Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Drascin wrote: »
    Yesterday I beat the main story! 145/175 strawberries, 703 deaths (does it count B-Side deaths?). Which would probably had been a lot less if I wasn't unable to NOT grab a strawberry that I can see even if it takes fifty retries (as well as real stubborn about making unnecessarily complicated travel paths work instead of sitting back and noticing it's not actually as complicated as I'm trying to make it). Now poking around trying to get some more strawberries and doing the B-sides I was missing. Still can't find how to actually get that blue heart in Stage 2, too.

    I love that the game doesn't make you feel bad about your deaths. It counts them, sure, but it's almost as a badge of honor. Like... this is how hard you worked to succeed.

    I have one B-Side left, but I haven't played in a few weeks, because I'm not really feeling the (mid-game spoiler, maybe, not really?)
    chase stuff. I'm not a big fan of the "your ghost(s) will follow you, so you can't stop or backtrack" mechanic. I never really am.
    It was my least favorite part of the main campaign and I imagine that it'll be more intense in the B-Side. It's just about figuring out, refining and memorizing an exact path, but I'm not really into it.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Drascin wrote: »
    Yesterday I beat the main story! 145/175 strawberries, 703 deaths (does it count B-Side deaths?). Which would probably had been a lot less if I wasn't unable to NOT grab a strawberry that I can see even if it takes fifty retries (as well as real stubborn about making unnecessarily complicated travel paths work instead of sitting back and noticing it's not actually as complicated as I'm trying to make it). Now poking around trying to get some more strawberries and doing the B-sides I was missing. Still can't find how to actually get that blue heart in Stage 2, too.

    Hint for the Stage 2 heart (not the actual solution):
    There's no scripted puzzle involved in getting it. All you need is a good understanding of how the game mechanics work.
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    Drascin wrote: »
    Yesterday I beat the main story! 145/175 strawberries, 703 deaths (does it count B-Side deaths?). Which would probably had been a lot less if I wasn't unable to NOT grab a strawberry that I can see even if it takes fifty retries (as well as real stubborn about making unnecessarily complicated travel paths work instead of sitting back and noticing it's not actually as complicated as I'm trying to make it). Now poking around trying to get some more strawberries and doing the B-sides I was missing. Still can't find how to actually get that blue heart in Stage 2, too.

    I love that the game doesn't make you feel bad about your deaths. It counts them, sure, but it's almost as a badge of honor. Like... this is how hard you worked to succeed.

    I have one B-Side left, but I haven't played in a few weeks, because I'm not really feeling the (mid-game spoiler, maybe, not really?)
    chase stuff. I'm not a big fan of the "your ghost(s) will follow you, so you can't stop or backtrack" mechanic. I never really am.
    It was my least favorite part of the main campaign and I imagine that it'll be more intense in the B-Side. It's just about figuring out, refining and memorizing an exact path, but I'm not really into it.

    Don't worry too much about the Chapter 2 B-Side. There's some of that it there, but the primary focus is on an entirely different sort of figuring out, refining, and memorizing an exact path.

    If anything, what you're talking about is one of the more friendly mechanics, since having twitch reactions isn't necessary. If you make a minor mistake you have plenty of time to dig yourself out of it, or stall until another opening is available.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Went to explore a bit more, get the casettes I was missing, and then play some of the B-Sides. Golden Ridge B gave me some trouble because I kept trying to make things more complicated than they needed to be, and at two specific points it took me about thirty deaths before I understood what I was actually supposed to do.

    My current status looks like this:
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    I think I have a suspicion for where the blue heart in stage 1 is, but hell it I know how to interact with what looks like a weirdass game of Simon.

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    Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    Yeah some of the puzzles around crystal hearts are downright mean. No shame in looking those up.

    A hint for the chapter 1 heart.
    It's all about the direction.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Man, Summit B was a freaking blast. Loved it. Though I ended up with like 360 deaths, because I completely failed to understand the simplest part of the last Ridge screen - I was like, I can't reach the top, do I need to be fast and walljump off the moving block? But no, it's just that I'm terrible at clouds, and you can only reach if you zenith the last cloud properly. I must have died something like 50 times trying to be fast enough to walljump off the block.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Yeah, I admit, I looked up the last two crystal hearts and strawberries I had left. Mirror Temple is kind of an ass to explore!

    So with that, all strawberries gotten, all crystal hearts earned, and Core-B is down, C-Sides unlocked! Core B was surprisingly tame for the effort it took to unlock, I felt - only about 170 deaths in all, and a quarter of them were in the same room, to be honest here :P.

    Man why is this game so good.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I got this game last night. Oh my god it's good. I beat Mirror Temple, and have cleared the B-Sides for the nightmare and the hotel.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    I got this game last night. Oh my god it's good. I beat Mirror Temple, and have cleared the B-Sides for the nightmare and the hotel.

    B-side Old site is one of my favorite stages. The magic blocks are such a fun mechanic to futz around with.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Especially when they teach you the dash-jump to be used with the magic blocks.

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    LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Watching the Quick Look for that was agony. It's not that complicated a mechanic. Jump before you exit!

    I'm well over 2k deaths now, going through the Hotel B-side. So many dumb mistakes where I just walk off a ledge straight onto a death ghost because I'm too busy focusing on a complex later part. If I manage to complete under 5k I will be very surprised.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    It took me a few goes to realize what the crow meant. I was like "yeah, I know how to jump."

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Yeah, I must have had ten or fifteen deaths minimum in that first jump before I caught on to the timing and stuff.

    EDIT: Also, Christ, checking my screenshots, I practically doubled my deaths in stage 7 to find all the strawberries. You don't realize how much all the jumping into random suspicious pits and bashing your head against suspicious walls from which you can't recover is adding to the life counter until you see it all added up.

    This is my current status (mild spoilers, of course):
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    Only the C-Sides to go!

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Be proud of your death count!

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Be proud of your death count!

    I am proud of most of my death count!

    It's just the bits like the near-forty deaths in a row from that one room where I was totally convinced you couldn't reach the top with a cloud jump (spoilers: you could) so I kept trying an extremely complicated bouncing scheme that required a pixel-perfect timing I didn't have, that I'm a bit less proud of :P.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I reached the summit!

    Everyone liked my pie!

    So now I'm about a third of the way through the game.

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Halfway through the B-sides now. Beating 4B made my arms sore.

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    CalebrosCalebros a k a TimesNewPwnin Registered User regular
    Just completed it over the weekend. What a wonderful game.

    but yeah man these B-sides do not fuck around. Even 1B on its own is tough as nails, which I wasn't quite expecting right out of the gate. It's so nice to see a game demand so much of you while being so polite about it.

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    SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    My partner laughs at me when I play through the B-sides. For some reason I instinctively tense up and will kick my legs and swing my arms a la anybody who had a parent that tried to play NES for the first time back in the 80s.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Accomplishments!

    Today, I cleared the B-Side for The Summit. What a wild ride that one is! It demanded I remember and execute basically everything I ever learned about the game, and then it sprang on me a new mechanic I never knew always existed in the game! Crazy! That one was utterly brutal: I died 1005 times before it was through, and only once (the final room of the Golden Ridge segment) did I feel like it was being unreasonable.

    That got me enough hearts to unlock the Core. Which I then cleared out. That one was also interesting, and I didn't get anywhere near all the strawberries.

    I then went back to Abandoned City and Reflection and grabbed the B-Side tapes and Blue Hearts for both. I felt really pleased with myself when I figured out the puzzle to the latter. I had gotten spoiled to the fact that the Abandoned City heart and the Reflection heart are connected, but I managed to figure out for myself how they fit together.

    So, now I have 7 hearts (4 red, 3 blue), and all the b-side tapes! Next on the agenda is to clear the B-sides for Abandoned City, Golden Ridge, and Reflection, I suppose. And then I'll be 2/3rds done. I love this game and its wealth of stuff to do.

    By the way, when I was in the Core,
    I was so very happy to see a Badeline launch bubble towards the end. She is still here! Yay!

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    How do you spike jump? I saw one video mentioning it and its apparently needed for dashless level 1, but I can't figure it out.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    There's not a spike jump so much as there are pixels or ledges/walls right up against spikes that you can quickly jump off for extra distance that makes it look like you're jumping off spikes, in part due to the way how spikes operate.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    So, I'm in need of a hint for the blue heart in Celestial Resort.
    I can see it in one of the pathways in the part of the chapter where I need to clean up the big mess. It looks like the way to reach it is through a path from below. Going to the pathway below, I can see a passagway going straight up, in a spot that looks like it leads to the heart. The passage is blocked off by towels, though, so I need to find the path to the towel button, and then come back to this path and make my way to the heart.

    However, the path that has the towel-blocked tunnel is the path to the towel button. and I can't go back to that path after I hit the towel button. This is a real "key to the suitcase is inside the suitcase" situation I find myself in.

    The upper pathway where I can see the blue heart has the otehr end of the tunnel blocked by books. And wouldn't you know it? That's the book button pathway.

    Is there a way to return to these pathways after clearing the mess? Or have I missed soemething big?

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    So, I'm in need of a hint for the blue heart in Celestial Resort.
    I can see it in one of the pathways in the part of the chapter where I need to clean up the big mess. It looks like the way to reach it is through a path from below. Going to the pathway below, I can see a passagway going straight up, in a spot that looks like it leads to the heart. The passage is blocked off by towels, though, so I need to find the path to the towel button, and then come back to this path and make my way to the heart.

    However, the path that has the towel-blocked tunnel is the path to the towel button. and I can't go back to that path after I hit the towel button. This is a real "key to the suitcase is inside the suitcase" situation I find myself in.

    The upper pathway where I can see the blue heart has the otehr end of the tunnel blocked by books. And wouldn't you know it? That's the book button pathway.

    Is there a way to return to these pathways after clearing the mess? Or have I missed soemething big?

    I'mma put a hint and the straight up solution in different boxes here.
    Your guess is close - there is indeed a hidden path you can squeeze in to retrace your steps in Towel Zone.
    In the very room with the Towel switch, try to climb into the tiny thingums from where the water flows down. One of them is a passageway that lets you return to the previous rooms. You can then just walk back easily and climb to the heart.

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    GMaster7GMaster7 Goggles Paesano Registered User regular
    Seeing this thread, I was reminded that I still need to get a couple of hearts to unlock the C-Sides.

    Went over to YouTube to actually watch what a C-Side entails. Although they're obviously doable, I...... am getting the feeling that maybe I should keep my ultra-positive feelings of challenging-but-not-horribly-frustrating Celeste intact by skipping the C-Sides.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Thanks for the hint. I'll start sniffing around for solutions based on that.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    Seeing this thread, I was reminded that I still need to get a couple of hearts to unlock the C-Sides.

    Went over to YouTube to actually watch what a C-Side entails. Although they're obviously doable, I...... am getting the feeling that maybe I should keep my ultra-positive feelings of challenging-but-not-horribly-frustrating Celeste intact by skipping the C-Sides.

    The C-Sides do appear daunting at first, but you get in a rhythm for them and they are much, much shorter levels than typical sides.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Is it possible to screw yourself over in the hotel?

    I've gotten to a screen that appears to be impossible. I've already found some weird tricks like screen transitions resetting your dash, but this seems to have no room for weirdness.
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    Oh NM, I got it. Wow that was silly to be stuck on.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Is it possible to screw yourself over in the hotel?

    I've gotten to a screen that appears to be impossible. I've already found some weird tricks like screen transitions resetting your dash, but this seems to have no room for weirdness.
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    I just went to check that room. Is it this one, only with the towels and books already gone?
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    If so, I just checked that yeah, you can totally do that room without touching the towels and the books. Take advantage of the added distance you get by doing upward diagonal dashes.

    The route, without having to do the dash-under I had to do to not touch the towels, looks something like this (please keep in mind this is a two minute mspaint, the points of dash are not terribly exact, but you get the general idea):

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    I just beat 1-C, 2-C, 3-C, 4-C, and 5-C in a row!

    Holy shit that was exhilarating. The first two were honestly surprisingly tame, but by 3-C things were picking up and 5-C did not fuck around in the slightest. "Have you mastered the wallbounce yet? No? Then get rekt son".

    I am currently still coming down from the tension high. God I love this game.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Yeah that was what I found, Drascin, thanks. I was totally ignoring the left wall for some reason

    Now I'm finding more areas with solutions I don't understand though. This game is demanding.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Does some kind of map or strawberry radar unlock in the post game? Enjoying my first run through so far but some of these levels are pretty huge and I keep finding myself shoved onward with no chance to backtrack and explore.

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    Does some kind of map or strawberry radar unlock in the post game? Enjoying my first run through so far but some of these levels are pretty huge and I keep finding myself shoved onward with no chance to backtrack and explore.

    No, but it does show you the strawberries you have found for each section of a chapter when you pause during gameplay.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Holy shit. ‘Reflection’ was intense!

    There seemed to be multiple paths through the earlier bits of the level, is that the case?

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