Started playing late yesterday, just managed to get out of Earth and so far the gameplay is pretty fun.
But i do have some questions, mainly, what the heck am i?
Am i a robot? An AI capable of jumping bodies? Someone wearing a rather snug power armor? Brain and spine in a jar that can be switched between robot bodies?
Oh, the game definitely never gets into that... *wink*
Yeah, just keep playing and unlocking junctions and doing the quests. Things will be explained!
So, I just did Octavia's anthem. The quest was cool, but. It just gives you the main blueprint, not the parts? And there's zero hints as to where you could get the parts?
You know, DE, designing your game under the assumption that the player will have the wiki open in their phone while playing at all times is kind of shitty design. Let's check what the parts require...
...apparently the pieces for Octavia require, in order: solving a puzzle room that might appear sometimes in Lua missions, a 20% chance of drop in the C rotation of Derelict Survival (so one chance every 20 minutes in a mission that requires spending resources to enter and which most people are probably not really doing), and a chance in one cache in one specific mission on Lua. What the bowling fuck? O_o Okay, first, how is anyone supposed to find out about this, and second, wow, between how bad I am at finding caches and how much I hate survival missions I'm clearly not getting Octavia anytime soon.
So, I just did Octavia's anthem. The quest was cool, but. It just gives you the main blueprint, not the parts? And there's zero hints as to where you could get the parts?
You know, DE, designing your game under the assumption that the player will have the wiki open in their phone while playing at all times is kind of shitty design. Let's check what the parts require...
...apparently the pieces for Octavia require, in order: solving a puzzle room that might appear sometimes in Lua missions, a 20% chance of drop in the C rotation of Derelict Survival (so one chance every 20 minutes in a mission that requires spending resources to enter and which most people are probably not really doing), and a chance in one cache in one specific mission on Lua. What the bowling fuck? O_o Okay, first, how is anyone supposed to find out about this, and second, wow, between how bad I am at finding caches and how much I hate survival missions I'm clearly not getting Octavia anytime soon.
While this doesn't entirely refute what you're saying, I'm under the impression that they publish where to find things in the release notes of a given update, which is then swiftly added to the wiki. Like, I don't really think they expect players to toil in search of secrets, instead they just implement things in whatever manner "best" feeds the grind.
By the way, Ivara is hilarious and I should have just bought her ages ago to go through the starmap.
Octavia quest spoilers:
So there's a pile of Sentients in Octavia's quest. My Operator mode sucks something fierce, but my Hek hits hard enough that I can kill a sentient in 3 or 4 direct impact shots even with the resistances they grow. So what I did was sneak with Ivara right next to them, unload, and by the time the rest came in screaming I was already invisible again. Repeat to calmly kill every quest sentient without issue, if slowly.
(Also, Polyp dealt serious damage to them, though sadly when they grew a resistance to Slash damage her attacks became ineffective. I love my weird dog.)
Started playing late yesterday, just managed to get out of Earth and so far the gameplay is pretty fun.
But i do have some questions, mainly, what the heck am i?
Am i a robot? An AI capable of jumping bodies? Someone wearing a rather snug power armor? Brain and spine in a jar that can be switched between robot bodies?
And what would be an easy early game way to get different weapons? apart from real money or the credit store in your ship.
Mainly after a single sword (should have picked one at the start, because i could have just bought the staff later).
The Skana (the sword) can also be bought for credits. It sucks however, the staff is better. You'll can get a somewhat better sword (Cronus) by defeating Vor on Mercury, and get the blueprint for a much better sword (Heat Sword) through the Mercury Junction on Venus. Heat Sword requires Neural Sensors though, and if you don't get those through weird means you'll have to go to jupiter to get some.
Getting the Braton (which can also be bought for credits) is a good first buy, giving you a steady (though hardly amazing) rifle to begin your work.
For most weapons you need to buy a blueprint of the market (credits) and then collect the necessary materials to craft it.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
It takes 84 hours (72 hours+12 hours or 3½ days) to craft a Warframe.
All components can be crafted simultaneously, THEN it takes 3 days to assemble the frame.
And yeah. It's one of the ways they get the impatient to part with their platinum, but don't. There is always something else you can do for those few days. Like getting more credits/materials and going for the next project after that.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
So, I just did Octavia's anthem. The quest was cool, but. It just gives you the main blueprint, not the parts? And there's zero hints as to where you could get the parts?
You know, DE, designing your game under the assumption that the player will have the wiki open in their phone while playing at all times is kind of shitty design. Let's check what the parts require...
...apparently the pieces for Octavia require, in order: solving a puzzle room that might appear sometimes in Lua missions, a 20% chance of drop in the C rotation of Derelict Survival (so one chance every 20 minutes in a mission that requires spending resources to enter and which most people are probably not really doing), and a chance in one cache in one specific mission on Lua. What the bowling fuck? O_o Okay, first, how is anyone supposed to find out about this, and second, wow, between how bad I am at finding caches and how much I hate survival missions I'm clearly not getting Octavia anytime soon.
While this doesn't entirely refute what you're saying, I'm under the impression that they publish where to find things in the release notes of a given update, which is then swiftly added to the wiki. Like, I don't really think they expect players to toil in search of secrets, instead they just implement things in whatever manner "best" feeds the grind.
Also, DE started publicly posting all the drop tables for everything in the game a while back. So it's not like they're hiding anything.
DE's problem isn't transparency of drop tables, it's frequently not explaining how to do anything inside their actual game. "There's a wiki" is not good UX design!
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DE's problem isn't transparency of drop tables, it's frequently not explaining how to do anything inside their actual game. "There's a wiki" is not good UX design!
no fuck you figure it out!
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DE's problem isn't transparency of drop tables, it's frequently not explaining how to do anything inside their actual game. "There's a wiki" is not good UX design!
something something its only a beta
It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
DE's problem isn't transparency of drop tables, it's frequently not explaining how to do anything inside their actual game. "There's a wiki" is not good UX design!
...apparently the pieces for Octavia require, in order: solving a puzzle room that might appear sometimes in Lua missions, a 20% chance of drop in the C rotation of Derelict Survival (so one chance every 20 minutes in a mission that requires spending resources to enter and which most people are probably not really doing), and a chance in one cache in one specific mission on Lua.
This is so dumb! I did the quest to get the frame! Why make it so hard to actually get the thing I just did the quest to get!
Started playing late yesterday, just managed to get out of Earth and so far the gameplay is pretty fun.
But i do have some questions, mainly, what the heck am i?
Am i a robot? An AI capable of jumping bodies? Someone wearing a rather snug power armor? Brain and spine in a jar that can be switched between robot bodies?
And what would be an easy early game way to get different weapons? apart from real money or the credit store in your ship.
Mainly after a single sword (should have picked one at the start, because i could have just bought the staff later).
The Skana (the sword) can also be bought for credits. It sucks however, the staff is better. You'll can get a somewhat better sword (Cronus) by defeating Vor on Mercury, and get the blueprint for a much better sword (Heat Sword) through the Mercury Junction on Venus. Heat Sword requires Neural Sensors though, and if you don't get those through weird means you'll have to go to jupiter to get some.
Getting the Braton (which can also be bought for credits) is a good first buy, giving you a steady (though hardly amazing) rifle to begin your work.
For most weapons you need to buy a blueprint of the market (credits) and then collect the necessary materials to craft it.
Really, from where?
Yes, i know i can get the blueprint from market, but that's not buying a sword, that's crafting one.
Started playing late yesterday, just managed to get out of Earth and so far the gameplay is pretty fun.
But i do have some questions, mainly, what the heck am i?
Am i a robot? An AI capable of jumping bodies? Someone wearing a rather snug power armor? Brain and spine in a jar that can be switched between robot bodies?
And what would be an easy early game way to get different weapons? apart from real money or the credit store in your ship.
Mainly after a single sword (should have picked one at the start, because i could have just bought the staff later).
The Skana (the sword) can also be bought for credits. It sucks however, the staff is better. You'll can get a somewhat better sword (Cronus) by defeating Vor on Mercury, and get the blueprint for a much better sword (Heat Sword) through the Mercury Junction on Venus. Heat Sword requires Neural Sensors though, and if you don't get those through weird means you'll have to go to jupiter to get some.
Getting the Braton (which can also be bought for credits) is a good first buy, giving you a steady (though hardly amazing) rifle to begin your work.
For most weapons you need to buy a blueprint of the market (credits) and then collect the necessary materials to craft it.
Really, from where?
Yes, i know i can get the blueprint from market, but that's not buying a sword, that's crafting one.
Only the blueprint, actually. The Mk-1 Bo is available for credits outright (all the Mk-1 weapons are), but not the Skana, which probably makes the Skana the better choice in the tutorial since either one will be fine until you can get the other.
DE's problem isn't transparency of drop tables, it's frequently not explaining how to do anything inside their actual game. "There's a wiki" is not good UX design!
...apparently the pieces for Octavia require, in order: solving a puzzle room that might appear sometimes in Lua missions, a 20% chance of drop in the C rotation of Derelict Survival (so one chance every 20 minutes in a mission that requires spending resources to enter and which most people are probably not really doing), and a chance in one cache in one specific mission on Lua.
This is so dumb! I did the quest to get the frame! Why make it so hard to actually get the thing I just did the quest to get!
Yeah, honestly, that kinda pisses me off. Like, I did Inaros and it gave me the blueprints to MAKE Inaros. That makes sense. But then I do the quest for Octavia and after doing it I have to go do some completely unrelated random drop shit to make the frame I just spent an hour-long quest earning? Like, of the three things you need to do, the only one that makes even the slightest sense is the music puzzle one, and it still should be said inside the game.
Honestly, I'm wondering if, grind for grind's sake, it won't be more productive to just grind relics instead and sell the results for plat to buy her, overall. Just the survival mission one averages to almost 2 hours of constant Survival (and I hate Survival) with average luck, which I think my eighty plus runs at Ivara's blueprint show I don't have. 2 hours of relic grinding can be a reasonable amount of plat.
I started playing again and I've already defaulted to havin a tab on my browser for where to find x in warframe.
On a related note I didn't see the x box one clan in the OP if there is one. My live tag is same as here if anybody wants a friend.
Magell, I don't think there's an Xbox clan for PA, but I have a clan if you ever want to join. My gamertag is the same as my username here: ping me an FR and I can help you out if you get stuck or have any questions - I'm based in Ireland so working in a European timezone, but that doesn't mean we can't have space adventures at odd hours if you're States-side!
Tried the Index, since people said it was a good way to get credits. Honestly, anything above low mostly seems a great way to lose a bunch of credits when you don't reach the index point cutoff to actually get any money, since your cpu partners don't score for crap so it's basically all you.
Hooray! MR 10 achieved. Still really enjoying myself. I have a Corinth cooking right now, and I'd love to hear your build ideas for it.
edit: Also what's all this fuss about it's hard to get Harrow parts I have like 40 of those chassis BP's right now /s
My Corinth setup is: Shell Shock, Contagious Spread, Primed Point Blank, Charged Shell, Toxic Barrage, Blaze, Primed Ravage, Hell’s Chamber.
I have yet to encounter anything that I can’t kill in at most two shots, barring cheesy stuff like Juggernauts or the Stalker. It’s actually my go to gun right now, though the secondary fire takes a bit of getting used to in regards to proper range for the grenade to actually explode.
Fuck you Suumbaat. 20k each for the Eidolon gem blueprints is whatever the Plains equivalent of highway robbery is. I’ll pay it, but feh. It’ll take awhile to get them. I might be better off selling fish to buy them.
Oh well. ZephyrP is building, I need to farm up some forma.
Cuthol are annoying cause I need a hotspot, but not too bad.
Fuck you Suumbaat. 20k each for the Eidolon gem blueprints is whatever the Plains equivalent of highway robbery is. I’ll pay it, but feh. It’ll take awhile to get them. I might be better off selling fish to buy them.
Oh well. ZephyrP is building, I need to farm up some forma.
Cuthol are annoying cause I need a hotspot, but not too bad.
that blueprint is not super usefull, much better to just kill eidolons when you login at plains night
Fuck you Suumbaat. 20k each for the Eidolon gem blueprints is whatever the Plains equivalent of highway robbery is. I’ll pay it, but feh. It’ll take awhile to get them. I might be better off selling fish to buy them.
Oh well. ZephyrP is building, I need to farm up some forma.
Cuthol are annoying cause I need a hotspot, but not too bad.
that blueprint is not super usefull, much better to just kill eidolons when you login at plains night
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Yeah, just keep playing and unlocking junctions and doing the quests. Things will be explained!
You know, DE, designing your game under the assumption that the player will have the wiki open in their phone while playing at all times is kind of shitty design. Let's check what the parts require...
...apparently the pieces for Octavia require, in order: solving a puzzle room that might appear sometimes in Lua missions, a 20% chance of drop in the C rotation of Derelict Survival (so one chance every 20 minutes in a mission that requires spending resources to enter and which most people are probably not really doing), and a chance in one cache in one specific mission on Lua. What the bowling fuck? O_o Okay, first, how is anyone supposed to find out about this, and second, wow, between how bad I am at finding caches and how much I hate survival missions I'm clearly not getting Octavia anytime soon.
While this doesn't entirely refute what you're saying, I'm under the impression that they publish where to find things in the release notes of a given update, which is then swiftly added to the wiki. Like, I don't really think they expect players to toil in search of secrets, instead they just implement things in whatever manner "best" feeds the grind.
On a related note I didn't see the x box one clan in the OP if there is one. My live tag is same as here if anybody wants a friend.
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Octavia quest spoilers:
(Also, Polyp dealt serious damage to them, though sadly when they grew a resistance to Slash damage her attacks became ineffective. I love my weird dog.)
The Skana (the sword) can also be bought for credits. It sucks however, the staff is better. You'll can get a somewhat better sword (Cronus) by defeating Vor on Mercury, and get the blueprint for a much better sword (Heat Sword) through the Mercury Junction on Venus. Heat Sword requires Neural Sensors though, and if you don't get those through weird means you'll have to go to jupiter to get some.
Getting the Braton (which can also be bought for credits) is a good first buy, giving you a steady (though hardly amazing) rifle to begin your work.
For most weapons you need to buy a blueprint of the market (credits) and then collect the necessary materials to craft it.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
{Twitter, Everybody's doing it. }{Writing and Story Blog}
All components can be crafted simultaneously, THEN it takes 3 days to assemble the frame.
And yeah. It's one of the ways they get the impatient to part with their platinum, but don't. There is always something else you can do for those few days. Like getting more credits/materials and going for the next project after that.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Also, DE started publicly posting all the drop tables for everything in the game a while back. So it's not like they're hiding anything.
no fuck you figure it out!
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
But also like, look at this shit:
This is so dumb! I did the quest to get the frame! Why make it so hard to actually get the thing I just did the quest to get!
ivara's pretty awful too
Yes, i know i can get the blueprint from market, but that's not buying a sword, that's crafting one.
Only the blueprint, actually. The Mk-1 Bo is available for credits outright (all the Mk-1 weapons are), but not the Skana, which probably makes the Skana the better choice in the tutorial since either one will be fine until you can get the other.
3DS: 0473-8507-2652
Switch: SW-5185-4991-5118
PSN: AbEntropy
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that's some nightmare fuel
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Yeah, honestly, that kinda pisses me off. Like, I did Inaros and it gave me the blueprints to MAKE Inaros. That makes sense. But then I do the quest for Octavia and after doing it I have to go do some completely unrelated random drop shit to make the frame I just spent an hour-long quest earning? Like, of the three things you need to do, the only one that makes even the slightest sense is the music puzzle one, and it still should be said inside the game.
Honestly, I'm wondering if, grind for grind's sake, it won't be more productive to just grind relics instead and sell the results for plat to buy her, overall. Just the survival mission one averages to almost 2 hours of constant Survival (and I hate Survival) with average luck, which I think my eighty plus runs at Ivara's blueprint show I don't have. 2 hours of relic grinding can be a reasonable amount of plat.
Jesus, give us a warning or something!
Magell, I don't think there's an Xbox clan for PA, but I have a clan if you ever want to join. My gamertag is the same as my username here: ping me an FR and I can help you out if you get stuck or have any questions - I'm based in Ireland so working in a European timezone, but that doesn't mean we can't have space adventures at odd hours if you're States-side!
Found your problem. Don't do it solo
edit: Also what's all this fuss about it's hard to get Harrow parts I have like 40 of those chassis BP's right now /s
I spent all my credits and mod juice pimping out Excal Umbra so if you wanna do some index farming this evening I would definitely help.
Chassis is easy. Other two are a pain.
3DS: 0473-8507-2652
Switch: SW-5185-4991-5118
PSN: AbEntropy
My Corinth setup is: Shell Shock, Contagious Spread, Primed Point Blank, Charged Shell, Toxic Barrage, Blaze, Primed Ravage, Hell’s Chamber.
I have yet to encounter anything that I can’t kill in at most two shots, barring cheesy stuff like Juggernauts or the Stalker. It’s actually my go to gun right now, though the secondary fire takes a bit of getting used to in regards to proper range for the grenade to actually explode.
3DS: 0473-8507-2652
Switch: SW-5185-4991-5118
PSN: AbEntropy
It just wants to be your friend!
Oh well. ZephyrP is building, I need to farm up some forma.
Cuthol are annoying cause I need a hotspot, but not too bad.
that blueprint is not super usefull, much better to just kill eidolons when you login at plains night
I mean the ones for Nyth and Sentrium.