it felt like the original plan was to have miles be 'Spider-Man' and have Peter graduate to something else a la Rogers running SHIELD back when, but then Peter Parker is way too much of a cash cow for them to ever go away from like that
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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They clearly didn't have any plans for Miles once he went from being The Ultimate Spider-Man to The Other Spider-Man
Their plan, their garbage plan that was never going to work long term, was for Miles to be the "street level" Spider-Man and Peter to be the "global" Spider-Man
I've been out of the Marvel game for a good long while, the last time I was buying any Marvel was when Chip Zdarsky was on Star-Lord and there was that Kelly Thompson Hawkeye series
what's even good at Marvel anymore comics-wise, what're the standouts of the current lineup (editor's note: for some reason I do not care about X-Men at all so any X-Men stuff is gonna do nothin' for me)
I've been out of the Marvel game for a good long while, the last time I was buying any Marvel was when Chip Zdarsky was on Star-Lord and there was that Kelly Thompson Hawkeye series
what's even good at Marvel anymore comics-wise, what're the standouts of the current lineup (editor's note: for some reason I do not care about X-Men at all so any X-Men stuff is gonna do nothin' for me)
Zdarsky's 2-in-1 and Spectacular Spider-Man
Saladin Ahmed's Exiles, which stars an X-adjacent character but isn't really an X-Book
Donny Cates' Doctor Strange and Thanos (the latter of which just wrapped up)
Jason Aaron's Avengers and Thor relaunches are hitting tomorrow and next month, as are various other launches like Cates' Venom and Ewing's Immortal Hulk
did DC and creator-owned really suck up all the talented writers right now, because it seems very odd that all of the few interesting Marvel books are all written by the same 4 dudes
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Just let Zdarsky run wild with the Marvel universe
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Talented People have basically been drifting from Marvel as they have been finishing their runs for the last couple years
did DC and creator-owned really suck up all the talented writers right now, because it seems very odd that all of the few interesting Marvel books are all written by the same 4 dudes
Kinda, yeah
Marvel's talent pool isn't terrible but Ahmed and Cates are basically the only actually exciting new talent they've brought on in the past couple years
They've got Aaron, Ewing and Zdarsky who are all fantastic and Waid who can still write a good superhero book when he remembers he's an old ass white man and to stay in his lane
But that's about it as far as huge creators I'm interested in
Well there is also Coates but he seems pretty well entrenched in terms of doing his own thing on his books and not being too big of an active part of the MU at large
are there ANY women writing for Marvel right now besides (I assume) G. Willow Wilson still at it?
Feels like every single announcement was dudes
Mariko Tamaki is on X-23 and Margaret Stohl is still on Captain Marvel but yeah they do not have even half a dozen active lady writers on the roster and it's not great
did DC and creator-owned really suck up all the talented writers right now, because it seems very odd that all of the few interesting Marvel books are all written by the same 4 dudes
Kinda, yeah
Marvel's talent pool isn't terrible but Ahmed and Cates are basically the only actually exciting new talent they've brought on in the past couple years
They've got Aaron, Ewing and Zdarsky who are all fantastic and Waid who can still write a good superhero book when he remembers he's an old ass white man and to stay in his lane
But that's about it as far as huge creators I'm interested in
Well there is also Coates but he seems pretty well entrenched in terms of doing his own thing on his books and not being too big of an active part of the MU at large
I've been out of the Marvel game for a good long while, the last time I was buying any Marvel was when Chip Zdarsky was on Star-Lord and there was that Kelly Thompson Hawkeye series
what's even good at Marvel anymore comics-wise, what're the standouts of the current lineup (editor's note: for some reason I do not care about X-Men at all so any X-Men stuff is gonna do nothin' for me)
Gerry Duggan's work on Guardians of the Galaxy/Infinity Countdown is the best Marvel Cosmic stuff in years, I strongly recommend it.
hmm, Infinity War definitely has me in the mood for Guardians stuff again, what's their lineup lookin' like these days, still the usual "exactly like the movies + 1 more character" thing?
Right now, it's the team from the movies plus Richard Rider and Ant-Man (Scott Lang). Also Adam Warlock is around doing stuff, but they haven't met up with him yet.
I feel like that's a particularly odd anomaly in comics right now, the Guardians now feel like they're permanently locked to Star-Lord, Gamora, Drax, Rocket, and Groot in a way something like the Avengers didn't get stuck to
I'm definitely not complaining about it, but it feels like Guardians was designed to be a floating roster and now there's an expectation of who has to be there, like the Fantastic Four
did DC and creator-owned really suck up all the talented writers right now, because it seems very odd that all of the few interesting Marvel books are all written by the same 4 dudes
Kinda, yeah
Marvel's talent pool isn't terrible but Ahmed and Cates are basically the only actually exciting new talent they've brought on in the past couple years
They've got Aaron, Ewing and Zdarsky who are all fantastic and Waid who can still write a good superhero book when he remembers he's an old ass white man and to stay in his lane
But that's about it as far as huge creators I'm interested in
Well there is also Coates but he seems pretty well entrenched in terms of doing his own thing on his books and not being too big of an active part of the MU at large
What about Gerry Duggan?
Oh you're right! Duggan rules, but his Guardians run getting derailed and turned into unnecessary crossovers has soured me.
@Mr. G Duggan's Guardians is really good but around 3 or 4 trades in they cancelled it and transitioned into Infinity Countdown, a crossover event which basically took his plotlines and tied them to an unnecessary crossover angle.
The same month Infinity Countdown ends, Infinity Wars begins which is an even bigger crossover.
To be clear, the books are still good because Duggan is good
But if you're wanting just a standalone Guardians title, it quickly gets left in the dust and it's a bummer
I was browsing old stuff and came across the Thor/Iron Man fight from Civil War after he lands Asgard in Oklahoma. Fuck, that was such a fucking cathartic moment in a wide ocean of bullshit.
Did they ever truly resolve how immensely pissed off Thor was at Tony for stealing his genetic code and making an evil clone of him that killed people?
I was browsing old stuff and came across the Thor/Iron Man fight from Civil War after he lands Asgard in Oklahoma. Fuck, that was such a fucking cathartic moment in a wide ocean of bullshit.
Did they ever truly resolve how immensely pissed off Thor was at Tony for stealing his genetic code and making an evil clone of him that killed people?
Yeah, Fraction had them make up when he was on both Thor and Iron Man
Basically after Siege when Tony got reset to pre-Civil War Tony they used it as an excuse to mend bridges and Stark even set up shop in Broxton
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I was browsing old stuff and came across the Thor/Iron Man fight from Civil War after he lands Asgard in Oklahoma. Fuck, that was such a fucking cathartic moment in a wide ocean of bullshit.
Did they ever truly resolve how immensely pissed off Thor was at Tony for stealing his genetic code and making an evil clone of him that killed people?
Sort of, I forgot there was a bit. But it was mostly swept under the rug
I was browsing old stuff and came across the Thor/Iron Man fight from Civil War after he lands Asgard in Oklahoma. Fuck, that was such a fucking cathartic moment in a wide ocean of bullshit.
Did they ever truly resolve how immensely pissed off Thor was at Tony for stealing his genetic code and making an evil clone of him that killed people?
Yeah, Fraction had them make up when he was on both Thor and Iron Man
Basically after Siege when Tony got reset to pre-Civil War Tony they used it as an excuse to mend bridges and Stark even set up shop in Broxton
that is good, then! It's really frustrating when stuff in serial works like that gets brushed aside.
On the other hand, sometimes something happens in a story that's extremely terrible and better off forgotten, and that's...probably one of them
They basically had their cake and ate it because Tony got reset to before he did that and so couldn't be directly held accountable but they still used Robo-Clone-Thor, and named him Ragnarok, for various books.
There was one really fun moment where Tony was talking to Thor about getting Stark Resilent off the ground and proposed rebuilding Asgard as a dream project that they could do down the road once they have funding and have rebuilt their coffers
Thor just laughs and asks him to a wait a second
He's gone for a few minutes and comes back with a sack full of pure Asgardian gold and jewels and says that Tony can have as much as he wants, Asgard's treasuries are open to his friends.
that was because he had to kill his own brain or something, right? but then he had like a backup of his brain?
Yeah, when Osborn took over SHIELD the first thing, literally the very first thing, he did when he got control was try to raid the database of superhero identities
Tony set up a fail safe where if he tried it (giving Norman a chance to not be a monster) the local copy would be destroyed and the digital copy would be downloaded to Tony's Extremis brain which he later set to basically self-delete as it was the only way to keep the info out of Norman's hands.
I think Fraction's Iron Man run was one of the first big solo books I binged after getting Marvel Unlimited due to MCU Fever (would've been just post-Avengers)
So only having MCU Tony to go on, I thought Fraction's post-human Tony Stark RULED
I still do, honestly
Give me back technopath Tony with the armor living in his bones
are there ANY women writing for Marvel right now besides (I assume) G. Willow Wilson still at it?
Feels like every single announcement was dudes
Mariko Tamaki is on X-23 and Margaret Stohl is still on Captain Marvel but yeah they do not have even half a dozen active lady writers on the roster and it's not great
What's the word on that Captain Marvel book
Last one I read was DeConnick and it didn't do much for me
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that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Their plan, their garbage plan that was never going to work long term, was for Miles to be the "street level" Spider-Man and Peter to be the "global" Spider-Man
what's even good at Marvel anymore comics-wise, what're the standouts of the current lineup (editor's note: for some reason I do not care about X-Men at all so any X-Men stuff is gonna do nothin' for me)
Zdarsky's 2-in-1 and Spectacular Spider-Man
Saladin Ahmed's Exiles, which stars an X-adjacent character but isn't really an X-Book
Donny Cates' Doctor Strange and Thanos (the latter of which just wrapped up)
Jason Aaron's Avengers and Thor relaunches are hitting tomorrow and next month, as are various other launches like Cates' Venom and Ewing's Immortal Hulk
Feels like every single announcement was dudes
Marvel's talent pool isn't terrible but Ahmed and Cates are basically the only actually exciting new talent they've brought on in the past couple years
They've got Aaron, Ewing and Zdarsky who are all fantastic and Waid who can still write a good superhero book when he remembers he's an old ass white man and to stay in his lane
But that's about it as far as huge creators I'm interested in
Well there is also Coates but he seems pretty well entrenched in terms of doing his own thing on his books and not being too big of an active part of the MU at large
Mariko Tamaki is on X-23 and Margaret Stohl is still on Captain Marvel but yeah they do not have even half a dozen active lady writers on the roster and it's not great
What about Gerry Duggan?
Okay. He's still killing it, though.
Gerry Duggan's work on Guardians of the Galaxy/Infinity Countdown is the best Marvel Cosmic stuff in years, I strongly recommend it.
I'm definitely not complaining about it, but it feels like Guardians was designed to be a floating roster and now there's an expectation of who has to be there, like the Fantastic Four
The same month Infinity Countdown ends, Infinity Wars begins which is an even bigger crossover.
To be clear, the books are still good because Duggan is good
But if you're wanting just a standalone Guardians title, it quickly gets left in the dust and it's a bummer
Did they ever truly resolve how immensely pissed off Thor was at Tony for stealing his genetic code and making an evil clone of him that killed people?
Basically after Siege when Tony got reset to pre-Civil War Tony they used it as an excuse to mend bridges and Stark even set up shop in Broxton
Sort of, I forgot there was a bit. But it was mostly swept under the rug
that is good, then! It's really frustrating when stuff in serial works like that gets brushed aside.
Thor just laughs and asks him to a wait a second
He's gone for a few minutes and comes back with a sack full of pure Asgardian gold and jewels and says that Tony can have as much as he wants, Asgard's treasuries are open to his friends.
Tony set up a fail safe where if he tried it (giving Norman a chance to not be a monster) the local copy would be destroyed and the digital copy would be downloaded to Tony's Extremis brain which he later set to basically self-delete as it was the only way to keep the info out of Norman's hands.
Wasn't that ellis thunderbolts
Remember when he had a drinking problem?
I didn't really hate Fraction's run, but I think looking back at it that's probably where I stopped caring about Tony Stark
So only having MCU Tony to go on, I thought Fraction's post-human Tony Stark RULED
I still do, honestly
Give me back technopath Tony with the armor living in his bones
What's the word on that Captain Marvel book
Last one I read was DeConnick and it didn't do much for me