Wang Mods (Piercing interest)

Redspo0nRedspo0n Registered User regular
Looking for anyone with experience with the installation of Wang hardware (genital piercing).

Totally fine with PMs, should you not want to discuss it openly. (Or if such is too far off appropriate for the forums, but it didnt seem like it would be)

My wife was teasing me recently about my lack of tattoos or piercings, and while I still havent had an interest in tattoo work, piercings attracted my interest rather intensely - specificly, I like the idea of a hidden little rebelion in my pants for my wife to enjoy, and for my own amusement. "Oh, yeah, no tattoos for me, but I do have a piercing. No, you cant see. =P"

So! Pain scale on this stuff? I've been told by one friend, his was actually his least painful piercing. Healing time? Special care?
I assume things vary with style of peircing - I'm considering PA or Frenum - one form better than another 'for her'? For me? Do we have to consider durability of location/jewelery?

I'm so new to this realm, but I find it enchanting and I must know more before I jump in head first. Giggity.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Don't stab your junk.
    ~gavel~

    Next question.

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    I mean , you do you ( and not in a condescending way) but it seems like a huge step to go from no mods to genital piercing.

    The caveat being my first and only tattoo is a giant piece on my back so YMMV

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    If you give a general region someone here might be able to recommend a shop where you can get all your questions answered.

    Definitely not a DIY piercing.

    Learn how to put in and remove your own jewelry and don't get something you'd be too embarrassed to talk to a physician or MRI technician about.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Don't stab your junk.
    ~gavel~

    Next question.

    This doesn't seem like an answer to the question OP was asking!

    I second the advice to talk to a local well-reviewed shop about this piercing, maybe even go in and get a 1 on 1 consult. You will want to really make sure it's done right, I'm guessing!

  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    If you give a general region someone here might be able to recommend a shop where you can get all your questions answered.

    Definitely not a DIY piercing.

    Learn how to put in and remove your own jewelry and don't get something you'd be too embarrassed to talk to a physician or MRI technician about.

    Meh, I have had a Prince Albert for 14 years now (fuck I'm old), and doctors, MRI techs, X-Ray techs, and all manner of people have been relatively unphased by it. More just "are you sure it's stainless steel/titanium? Because if it's not, you might want to take it out..." While I can't say for sure that the poster won't get embarrassed, it's so not even an issue for medical professionals, many of whom have seen it and either smile or say "me too," or "this one guy I dated..." This has been my experience in both the relatively rural south as well as in Los Angeles.

    I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with making a genital piercing your first (and only if you so choose) piercing, though it was neither my first nor my only piercing. It was nowhere close to the most painful piercing that I have had, though it definitely wins the award for bloodiest. The most painful was my septum by a mile. Bumping that fucker for the first couple of weeks caused my eyes to tear up and do that thing where I look like I remembered a childhood dog dying and started crying at completely inappropriate times.

    The Prince Albert was a bit sore after the initial adrenaline/endorphin rush wore off, and it wasn't pain free or anything like that, but it's more of a dull ache than anything else. The first few times you urinate (and the first time you go every day) will hurt, but the more hydrated you stay the better it will be. (This goes for any piercing that traverses the urethra in any way, though with an apadravya or ampallang you have two sides of the urethra to deal with.) As long as you are gentle with it, however, this is not something you will have to worry about for too long. Mine healed fully in about 3-4 weeks, and I could basically forget about it after a week or maybe 10 days.

    That said, there will be blood. I spent the first couple of days with a surgical glove (gently) rubber banded around my penis. If you're at all squeamish about dumping out three fingers worth of blood and cleaning bloody residue off your penis, don't pierce it. There is a LOT of blood flow to it, and that is no more apparent than after you have pierced it. I believe I was able to go without a glove after the third day, but it was so long ago I don't clearly remember. I remember at some point I switched to using a friend's overnight pads, which were more than sufficient to handle the small amount of blood there was at that point. I also pierced mine and then immediately stretched up a size, which a lot of folks do with genital piercings to cut down on the amount of bleeding. Regardless, there was still a lot of blood.

    Go to a reputable piercer in your area. Depending on where you are, I may know of someone or know someone who knows someone. Don't go somewhere that seems sketchy or that probably only sees people coming in for tongue piercings or shitty tattoos. Make sure that everything comes out of sterile, autoclaved bags and that they make you feel comfortable the entire time. Ask to see a portfolio and make sure they have pictures of the exact piercing you want (and that it looks good).

    One last thing I want to mention is that bigger tends to be better with most genital piercings. Smaller gauge (larger number) piercings can have that cheese cutter effect with the skin down there. Since you've mentioned using it during sex, the last thing you want is for a piercing to cut through your skin while you're using it. Mine was pierced at an 8 gauge and stretched immediately to a 6 gauge, but I know a lot of people who have pierced it at a 10 and stretched immediately to an 8. Listen to the piercers who are doing it more than a rando on the PA boards, but you won't be able to feel a difference in terms of pain, and you will absolutely want to have a solid amount of metal in there.

    Also, not everyone likes the feel of it during sex (and that goes for both you and your partners). I've been with people who dig it, and I've been with people who don't. It's kind of a mixed bag. That said, it only takes a few seconds to remove, so if you like it and your partner doesn't, it's not that big of a deal to take out for sex (once it's healed).

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  • Redspo0nRedspo0n Registered User regular
    I'm in Salem, Oregon - and talking with a reputable shop is always part of the gameplan. @LoveIsUnity - that's exactly the kind of insight I was looking for! Thank you!

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Medical professionals aren't bothered by piercings at all. If someone has one they won't tell you about when asked and it becomes necessary to remove it while you're under anesthesia they will just cut it off. So if you get one just be willing to answer honestly and know how to remove it.

    I'm not sure why someone would conceal something like that, but it does happen. The not knowing how to remove it happens a lot too.


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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Yeah, I have a friend who was an ER nurse and they have some ... interesting ... stories.

  • Redspo0nRedspo0n Registered User regular
    Even with a small portion of internet anonymity, I'm obviously not shy about discussing it, LOL.

    Do they use a local anesthetic for a PA? I've heard both ways - and honestly I expected to just have to grit my teeth, but if they do a local, I cant imagine the rest of it concerning me as much, pain-wise

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    I've never had anesthetic for any of my piercings, tattoos, having my lobes done at 0 gauge with a scalpel, or the very large scar piece done on my chest with a scalpel. Though, you could probably get some topical lidocaine for the PA if you're really worried about it. Personally, I would feel weirder having a numb urethra, but you do you. The pain wasn't that bad for me, though. I thought it was infinitely more uncomfortable having a receiving tube in my urethra (for those of you wondering why this is a thing, remember that the needle has to go somewhere).

    I will ask around and see if I have a friend of a friend or someone like that who has a shop in Salem.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    [Wrong Fucking Wang-Mod Edit]

    I have read that a[n Ampallang] Frenum piercing can go horribly wrong and, even if done right, can take months to heal. It goes through the cavernosa (plural), two of the three parts that fill with blood.

    I would not get a[n Ampallang] Frenum piercing from less than an experienced piercer with references from satisfied customers of the exact same thing.

    I believe the same book said the PA [and I guess the Frenum?] is much safer (possibly why it is more common?)

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    I'm not sure you'd be able to get anything other than topical, and that may actually burn a bit in the urethra. I *think* injection of local anesthetic is by prescription, and the injection would probably hurt at least as much as the piercing if you somehow found a way around that.

    There really is no way to get around piercings being painful, a skilled and well trained piercer(ist?) who uses clean (sterile!) tools is your best bet. In my limited experience the actual piercing isn't very painful, it's a day later when things are tender and need to be cleaned while going through the inflammation of the healing process that I remember. Endorphins do crazy things for acute pain, it's a few hours later when it's throbbing where I imagine the pain would be.

    Edit: My piercing was non-wang. Most people I know say nipples were the most painful.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    Oh, fuck me, no thats an "ampallang" piercing. I guess the frenum is just a sideways PA? Ignore all that. (Unless you want an ampallang!)

    Man. Now I'm extra glad I never went forward on that, can't imagine there's anything quite like realizing you had miscommunicated exactly where you wanted the spike rammed through your genitals.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Oh, fuck me, no thats an "ampallang" piercing. I guess the frenum is just a sideways PA? Ignore all that. (Unless you want an ampallang!)

    Man. Now I'm extra glad I never went forward on that, can't imagine there's anything quite like realizing you had miscommunicated exactly where you wanted the spike rammed through your genitals.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    I'm not sure you'd be able to get anything other than topical, and that may actually burn a bit in the urethra. I *think* injection of local anesthetic is by prescription, and the injection would probably hurt at least as much as the piercing if you somehow found a way around that.

    There really is no way to get around piercings being painful, a skilled and well trained piercer(ist?) who uses clean (sterile!) tools is your best bet. In my limited experience the actual piercing isn't very painful, it's a day later when things are tender and need to be cleaned while going through the inflammation of the healing process that I remember. Endorphins do crazy things for acute pain, it's a few hours later when it's throbbing where I imagine the pain would be.

    Edit: My piercing was non-wang. Most people I know say nipples were the most painful.

    My nipples weren't too bad, though the second one smarted like a mother fucker since the rush of endorphins and adrenaline had worn off from the first one. I still think the septum was the most painful for me. The prince albert was actually a dream piercing in a lot of ways. Not super painful. Healed very quickly. Once you get past the part where the first time you pee each day burns and it stops bleeding, it's a really, really low maintenance piercing to heal.

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