I love the idea that Mila actually bothered to give each of the clones different personalities/behaviors for what is essentially one throwaway scene.
Afterlife is such a great movie, everyone plays their character as hard as they can, and then Shawn Roberts plays an absolutely transcendental Wesker. Love it.
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I love the idea that Mila actually bothered to give each of the clones different personalities/behaviors for what is essentially one throwaway scene.
Afterlife is such a great movie, everyone plays their character as hard as they can, and then Shawn Roberts plays an absolutely transcendental Wesker. Love it.
Despite being a big resident evil fan and having loved the movies id never played 1, 5 or 6. When I finally got around to it it blew my mind how many scenes in the movies were homages to those games. Particularly the Wesker stuff. And the little mind control bug that has a glowing crystal on it. When I saw that in the movies I was like what the hell is that it's a weird design choice, it looks like a weak point for a boss fight. And then I played 5 and it straight up was
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Pretty fucked up how I knew exactly what was gonna happen at any given point, yet I still cried so hard that my face is on fire
Preeeeetty fucked up
Coco:
I knew going into it the whole people who are forgotten die again but watching that old ghost die was still super rough. But I didn’t lose it until the end when they were desperately trying to get grandma to remember her dad and it looked like she wasn’t.
It's kind of a shame that everyone hated The Predator because I feel like it's a genuinely interesting film that desperately needed another script pass. It's kind of the perfect idea of a reboot, get a fresh set of eyes to look at the franchise and say "ok, this no longer works as a horror film. What if we turn it into an action comedy?". I think if there had never been another Predator movie, we'd be looking at this as a strange gem that came out of nowhere It gets more right than it gets wrong, but the things that it gets wrong are thunderingly stupid. Thankfully, most of the really dumb "here's what the predators are after" stuff is never actually confirmed, the dumb human characters just throw them out as theories. Here are the things that don't make it through the Tube script pass:
Olivia Munn's character is just a renowned evolutionary biologist, not someone who wrote a letter to the president. Give her one line about having special forces training or some shit. The various incredibly wrong things she says about evolutionary biology are cut out.
The dogs scene is rewritten, because it looks very goofy on screen
No "autism is the next stage of human evolution". That's not how evolution works. I genuinely think Shane Black thought he was being progressive with this.
Cut the line "I hear you wrote the book on evolutionary biology". She didn't. That book is very famous and was written before she was born
Any theories about why the aliens are here should be put into the mouths of the dumb characters to make it clear that they're just coming up with shit
Cut the last scene that feels like a post-credit sequence
I don't think the script (or the idea for the script) is unsalvageable, it just needed someone to get the red pen out.
I think it had a broken script on a core level since the whole
Autism is the NEXT STEP OF EVOLUTION thing is core to the movie they made
It is how the kid was able to decipher and use alien tech
It is why the Big Predator wanted to take him
It informs every part of that kid's, significant, role in the movie is clearly a thing Black wanted to tackle
Mental Illness and Autism were the themes of the movie and he handled them like dog shit
I mean at one point Tom Jane's character, who is basically a cartoon of a person with tourette's, is CURED of it because of a big action scene. Keegan Michael Key even comments on how hes back to his old self!
They never establish that it's why the big predator wants him. Someone just says that as a possibility. If that line were cut out, I don't think any of us would have come up with it on our own from watching the movie. The kid doesn't need to be autistic, he can just be really smart. The twist is "the predators aren't interested in the biggest badass, they pick off the biggest badasses one by one as a hobby. They want smart people who are good with technology."
You reminded me though, that cutting out "Thomas Jane has Hollywood Tourettes" needs to go too.
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They never establish that it's why the big predator wants him. Someone just says that as a possibility. If that line were cut out, I don't think any of us would have come up with it on our own from watching the movie. The kid doesn't need to be autistic, he can just be really smart. The twist is "the predators aren't interested in the biggest badass, they pick off the biggest badasses one by one as a hobby. They want smart people who are good with technology."
You reminded me though, that cutting out "Thomas Jane has Hollywood Tourettes" needs to go too.
I think at that point it is less "the script is salvagable" and more "rewrite the whole thing top to bottom but keep the sets and character names"
All of the protaganists except Munn suffer from Hollywood Mental Illnesses or are on the Autism spectrum and that's absolutely an intentional move from Black and at the heart of the script
I think you're right about Black thinking he was being progressive, but he fucked it up in basically every way he could have and it's too rotten to salvage outside of scrapping everything IMO
Olivia Munn who wakes up in a room full of strange dudes is told by Jane during one of his outbursts "eat your pussy" and they do a fucking Laurel and Hardy bit of NOOO I SAID GEE YOU'RE PUSHY
They never establish that it's why the big predator wants him. Someone just says that as a possibility. If that line were cut out, I don't think any of us would have come up with it on our own from watching the movie. The kid doesn't need to be autistic, he can just be really smart. The twist is "the predators aren't interested in the biggest badass, they pick off the biggest badasses one by one as a hobby. They want smart people who are good with technology."
You reminded me though, that cutting out "Thomas Jane has Hollywood Tourettes" needs to go too.
I think at that point it is less "the script is salvagable" and more "rewrite the whole thing top to bottom but keep the sets and character names"
All of the protaganists except Munn suffer from Hollywood Mental Illnesses or are on the Autism spectrum and that's absolutely an intentional move from Black and at the heart of the script
I think you're right about Black thinking he was being progressive, but he fucked it up in basically every way he could have and it's too rotten to salvage outside of scrapping everything IMO
I think you'd be surprised how much difference relatively few changes would make to that script but short of buying a copy of it and doing my own rewrite I don't really have a way of proving it.
Olivia Munn who wakes up in a room full of strange dudes is told by Jane during one of his outbursts "eat your pussy" and they do a fucking Laurel and Hardy bit of NOOO I SAID GEE YOU'RE PUSHY
I think if you're talking about salvagble elements from The Predator it would be:
Dirty Dozen style military misfits
Competent scientist action lady
Predators having rival factions and some wanting to help humans
The Government wanting to reverse engineer predator tech
That's literally it and at that point it is less the raw bones of a script and more a very basic rough outline
Yeah I never thought I'd say I was done for at least a little bit with either franchise, let alone both, but that's where I'm at with both Alien (certainly for good with anything Ridley has to contribute to it, at least) and Predator. Stuff just fell off a creative cliff rapidly in directions I want nothing to do with
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This reminds me of so many teen age years of watching cinemax late at night. "Oh come on this was called CheerLeader Sex Party! THIS IS BULLSHIT!"
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I love the idea that Mila actually bothered to give each of the clones different personalities/behaviors for what is essentially one throwaway scene.
what is going on here
it looks like there are Transformers in this movie that actually look like Transformers
I'm that easy to please
Pretty fucked up how I knew exactly what was gonna happen at any given point, yet I still cried so hard that my face is on fire
Preeeeetty fucked up
Goddamn good for nothing movie making my eyes hurt from crying.
Afterlife is such a great movie, everyone plays their character as hard as they can, and then Shawn Roberts plays an absolutely transcendental Wesker. Love it.
Yeah, seems on brand for coco.
Satans..... hints.....
Despite being a big resident evil fan and having loved the movies id never played 1, 5 or 6. When I finally got around to it it blew my mind how many scenes in the movies were homages to those games. Particularly the Wesker stuff. And the little mind control bug that has a glowing crystal on it. When I saw that in the movies I was like what the hell is that it's a weird design choice, it looks like a weak point for a boss fight. And then I played 5 and it straight up was
Coco:
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we talked about it before
but i think mystery box thinking has sort of really damaged both movie writing and watching
you totally know exactly whats gonna happen in coco
but thats okay and honestly it wouldnt have hit as hard if there was some crazy twist
love that movie. glad you liked it pooro!
i mean there are boobs in it
in that very scene, even!
you just ain't seeing 'em on basic cable
The dogs scene is rewritten, because it looks very goofy on screen
No "autism is the next stage of human evolution". That's not how evolution works. I genuinely think Shane Black thought he was being progressive with this.
Cut the line "I hear you wrote the book on evolutionary biology". She didn't. That book is very famous and was written before she was born
Any theories about why the aliens are here should be put into the mouths of the dumb characters to make it clear that they're just coming up with shit
Cut the last scene that feels like a post-credit sequence
I don't think the script (or the idea for the script) is unsalvageable, it just needed someone to get the red pen out.
It is how the kid was able to decipher and use alien tech
It is why the Big Predator wanted to take him
It informs every part of that kid's, significant, role in the movie is clearly a thing Black wanted to tackle
Mental Illness and Autism were the themes of the movie and he handled them like dog shit
I mean at one point Tom Jane's character, who is basically a cartoon of a person with tourette's, is CURED of it because of a big action scene. Keegan Michael Key even comments on how hes back to his old self!
You reminded me though, that cutting out "Thomas Jane has Hollywood Tourettes" needs to go too.
All of the protaganists except Munn suffer from Hollywood Mental Illnesses or are on the Autism spectrum and that's absolutely an intentional move from Black and at the heart of the script
I think you're right about Black thinking he was being progressive, but he fucked it up in basically every way he could have and it's too rotten to salvage outside of scrapping everything IMO
Its ghastly
It's certainly not the boring kind of terrible.
I think you'd be surprised how much difference relatively few changes would make to that script but short of buying a copy of it and doing my own rewrite I don't really have a way of proving it.
Oh that's sheer death
And I do agree that the raw bones of much of the script are okay. But much of it is also bizarrely terrible (good turn of phrase for it).
Also at the same time, get rid of the CGI. Practical effects. That had a marked impact on the movie's quality
Otherwise tho it’s lovely
Competent scientist action lady
Predators having rival factions and some wanting to help humans
The Government wanting to reverse engineer predator tech
That's literally it and at that point it is less the raw bones of a script and more a very basic rough outline
let me tell you about deep blue sea
Yeah I never thought I'd say I was done for at least a little bit with either franchise, let alone both, but that's where I'm at with both Alien (certainly for good with anything Ridley has to contribute to it, at least) and Predator. Stuff just fell off a creative cliff rapidly in directions I want nothing to do with
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yes i have