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    WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    I want them to make/use a single word for when noncreature permanents "die".

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I want them to make/use a single word for when noncreature permanents "die".

    ...destroy?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    He means, like, when permanents die.

    Also I think I've decided on Azorius for the prerelease(s) I do because white and blue just have amazing commons and uncommons and very few of their rares are duds. Lavinia is probably the worst one you could get as your guild rare.

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    WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    The phrase "Whenever an artifact/enchantment/land is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" can be shortened. I don't think destroy can be used here, unless you specifically leave out sacrificed ones from the conditional phrase.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Force Simic and dream of having the perfect Pod Pod.

    I ate an engineer
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    I want them to make/use a single word for when noncreature permanents "die".

    enchantments, walkers, artifacts, and lands all function very differently and keywording that kinda thing would be incredibly limiting

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    The phrase "Whenever an artifact/enchantment/land is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" can be shortened. I don't think destroy can be used here, unless you specifically leave out sacrificed ones from the conditional phrase.

    "Breaks" almost works, and "Is razed" fits pretty well.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I want them to make/use a single word for when noncreature permanents "die".

    enchantments, walkers, artifacts, and lands all function very differently and keywording that kinda thing would be incredibly limiting

    I don't think they mean keyword it in the sense of "all land/enchantment/artifact goes-to-graveyard triggers are now commingled" or an actual rules keyword, I think they just want a descriptive and flavorful way to shorten the phrase. I don't see any rules limitations on "whenever an enchantment you control is razed" compared to "whenever an enchantment you control is put into the graveyard from the battlefield", or whatever.

    Also, technically, the rules defined term for this action already exists: "Dies". The glossary of the comprehensive rules says "A creature or planeswalker 'dies' if it is put into a graveyard from the battlefield. See rule 700.4.", but rule 700.4 is literally
    The term dies means “is put into a graveyard from the battlefield.”

    So you can already write a card as "whenever an enchantment you control dies" and it's perfectly legal, it's just weird.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Gruul is my goal guild that's for sure, but I can be convinced by a solid showing from a different guild. I'm very sad I missed my favorite guild in the previous release with the Red/Blue combo.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    milski wrote: »
    The phrase "Whenever an artifact/enchantment/land is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" can be shortened. I don't think destroy can be used here, unless you specifically leave out sacrificed ones from the conditional phrase.

    "Breaks" almost works, and "Is razed" fits pretty well.

    Eliminated?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    The phrase "Whenever an artifact/enchantment/land is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" can be shortened. I don't think destroy can be used here, unless you specifically leave out sacrificed ones from the conditional phrase.

    "Breaks" almost works, and "Is razed" fits pretty well.

    Eliminated?

    I think I'd settle on "razed" for it if I had to, because it's got some weight to it and fits flavorfully with lands and artifacts, though it's a bit off the mark on enchantments. The biggest point I'd make in favor of it is that it doesn't work flavorfully for creatures or planeswalkers; since "dies" is already a term, any term that could apply to all permanents like "eliminate" misses the mark.

    That said, as much as I personally might enjoy the shortened wording I don't think it's a good idea to do it. Stuff that cares about creatures dying is common and it's extremely grokkable, so the term is actually easier than writing out the rules definition and saves a ton of time. On the other hand, any word for artifacts/lands/enchantments going to the graveyard would be used far less often, and would require new players to look it up the first time, so it has much less benefit for much more cognitive load.

    Plus, the bigger issue with such a word would be on land, enchantment, and especially artifact creatures; while those are already slightly confusing, having them both be razed and die at the same time is weird and unintuitive.

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Huey Jensen is streaming a hilarious Mardu aristocrats deck and crushing pretty much everyone in today's streamer feature event. The deck:

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    SmurphSmurph Registered User regular
    Do we know when weekly reward packs will switch over to Allegiance?

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    BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    Probably the next time weekly rewards are refreshed (Sunday)

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    https://article.hareruyamtg.com/article/18746/?lang=en

    Time for our annual Hareruya jank!

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Stealing a list shamelessly from /r/spikes, I'm looking forward to playing both the Temur Pod list in the Hareruya list and something like this Bant list below:
    4x Llanowar Elves
    • 4x Merfolk Branchwalker
    • 4x Tithe Taker
    • 1x Kraul Harpooner
    • 3x Exclusion Mage
    • 4x Militia Bugler
    • 2x Knight of Autumn
    • 2x Deputy of Detention
    • 3x Conclave Cavalier
    • 4x Prime Speaker Vannifar
    • 1x Shalai, Voice of Plenty
    • 1x Lyra Dawnbringer
    • 3x Biogenic ooze
    • 4x Temple Garden
    • 4x Breeding pool
    • 3x Hallowed Fountain
    • 3x Sunpetal Grove
    • 3x Hinterland Harbor
    • 3x Glacial Fortress
    • 3x Forest
    • 1x Plains

    SB
    • 1x Deathgorge Scavenger
    • 1x Remorseful Cleric
    • 3x Conclave Tribunal
    • 1x Vivien Reid
    • 2x Settle the Wreckage
    • 2x Negate
    • 1x Spell Pierce
    • 1x Disdainful Stroke
    1x Deputy of Detention
    1x Lavinia, Azorious Renegade

    Probably swapping at least one of the Biogenic Ooze for a toolboxy Trostani. Militia Bugler looks insane in that list, too, tutoring up basically all of your creatures even when they're certainly gonna be bigger, and podding into Ooze looks a lot stronger than having to actually play it.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    I still dunno what I wanna play, probably just whatever the better aggro deck ends up being

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I still dunno what I wanna play, probably just whatever the better aggro deck ends up being

    YOU PLAY GRUUL. YOU SMASH. YOU RIOT.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    i mean if its good sure

    rakdos probably got more red aggro stuff though

    the 3 drop spellbreaker thing is nuts though. gets out of clarion range and makes them unable to use settle the wreckage

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    With the frequency I'm seeing that 1RG 3/3 Riot dude showing up in prospective decklists, I'm wagering that will be an expensive card.

    Also I think people are underestimating midrange but, as usual, midrange will take a while to settle on a list that can stem the tides of figuring-out-the-meta aggro lists. My bet is still on monoblue being a Very Good Deck that is capable of handling threats in all varieties and will have mostly even matchups that come down to knowing the matchups moreso than bringing paper to a room full of rocks.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    you should really play what you want, whichever guild is fun for you!

    as long as it's Gruul

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    i mean if its good sure

    rakdos probably got more red aggro stuff though

    the 3 drop spellbreaker thing is nuts though. gets out of clarion range and makes them unable to use settle the wreckage

    Go Jund.

    Best of both.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Wait, is the set up on Arena today? ( I'm still at work can't check and google not telling me!)

    Steam! Battlenet:Wisemantobes#1508
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Everything current expires in six hours, so it's probably then.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Watching some of the streamer pre-prerelease, and Biogenic Ooze + Quasiduplicate is so goddamn funny

    It dies real, real bad to board clear but it gets out of hand with alacrity

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    i like the theatre of horrors burn deck

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    I am very cold on Theater of Horrors compared to the other pseudo-draw available to red right now but I certainly won't complain if it winds up being good

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    I'm starting to get confused why this janky ass Antiquity War deck is doing so well in ranked for me.

    I went the whole way through silver last night and my only losses were to a mana screw and an aggro deck that curved out perfectly.

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    BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    I'm starting to get confused why this janky ass Antiquity War deck is doing so well in ranked for me.

    I went the whole way through silver last night and my only losses were to a mana screw and an aggro deck that curved out perfectly.

    What's the list?

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    I'm starting to get confused why this janky ass Antiquity War deck is doing so well in ranked for me.

    I went the whole way through silver last night and my only losses were to a mana screw and an aggro deck that curved out perfectly.

    Until you hit Gold it's literally impossible not to gain rank, so anything you're playing against in Bronze and Silver is probably an untested deck. Not to say there can't be some sweet Antiquities War list that can shark the meta, but pre-gold is jank paradise

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Jank Paradise is the name of my band.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    I'm coming to terms with the fact that playing jank is my only constant.

    I don't like the fact that I'm basically a decklist hipster but I can't ignore the truth.

    edit: also why is everything dropping all on January 18th? New set on Arena, new Diablo 3 season starts, new... season of Grace and Frankie

    KalTorak on
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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    turtleant wrote: »
    I'm starting to get confused why this janky ass Antiquity War deck is doing so well in ranked for me.

    I went the whole way through silver last night and my only losses were to a mana screw and an aggro deck that curved out perfectly.

    What's the list?

    I'm at work so I can't look but something like

    4x Fountain of Renewal
    4x Artificers Assistant
    4x Treasure Map
    2x Prying Blade
    4x Deep Freeze
    4x Sky Scanner
    4(?)x Sinister Sabatoge
    2x Voltaic Servant
    2x Temporal Shenanigans
    2x Sai, Master Thopterist
    2x Antiquities War
    2x the 5 Mana Tezzeret that makes thopters
    2x Zaheed, Djinn of the Lamp
    22 Islands (might be off by one)

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    MTGA is up and Allegiance is live

    edit: remember to use "PlayAllegiance" promo code for three free packs.

    Kevin Crist on
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    BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    Code entered. System says code redeemed....!

    ....no packs to open.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Yeah, the store was giving me errors and being slow with buying packs. Everyone is hitting the servers.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    I'm coming to terms with the fact that playing jank is my only constant.

    I don't like the fact that I'm basically a decklist hipster but I can't ignore the truth.

    edit: also why is everything dropping all on January 18th? New set on Arena, new Diablo 3 season starts, new... season of Grace and Frankie

    Punisher seaaon 2, also

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    hahahahAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

    My very first RNA sealed rares:

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    it's time for memes

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    this was before the reset today.
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    Two rounds previous I had 1 health and they had 15.

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    BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    Weird, I played Grimgorg earlier today too.

    No players / dedgame!

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