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PA Game Of The Year 2018 - Nomination and rule discussion thread (21st deadline)

Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
edited January 11 in Games and Technology
It's that time of year. I can tell because my inbox actually gets messages in it.

You all know the drill by now. MCC did some awesome work with these and we now carry it on each year. @Infidel hosts and does all the wonderful techie bits. I just chuck up a list of all the games released in 2018 and you guys tell me what I've got wrong and what I've missed. We then vote on these and ultimately Beat Saber wins. Or something else, I dunno, I'm so out of touch this year.

Here's the bit I steal every year:
There are a lot of Game of the Year polls out there, but this one is special. Where most GOTY polls just give you a list of maybe five of the best-selling games from the last year, and ask you to choose your favorite, THIS poll gives you a list of EVERY game that came out in the last year (more or less) and asks you to vote for [up to] your top 20-- ranked by how much you liked them. Here's last year's poll if you want to see how this works. We actually wind up with a serviceable ranking of the top hundred or so games from the last year, with blockbusters, obscurities and cult hits mixed in side by side, and a pretty color-coded graph.

Remember, the point of this is to have the most comprehensive list of games possible! So any game that anyone might POSSIBLY put in their top 20 deserves to go on the list. This year more than ever I've likely missed a chunk of really good indie games, and included a shed load of titles I probably shouldn't.

The usual rules are:

* It must have been legally released IN AMERICA for the first time in 2018
* It must be a new game-- no ports, no expansion packs.

We can try to be flexible about these rules. But here's the underlying point of the rules: Every game gets one shot.

Now they WERE the rules. Many other GOTY polls have started to be flexible and I'd like to use this nomination thread to also discuss any rule amendments. What does Early Access really mean? When does a remaster go far enough to be counted as a new experience? This is our poll, and we get to decide what goes on it. Do we add in remastered? Complete editions? Early Access titles? Do we try to judge when a title has reached peak popularity rather than when it officially released? Can I vote for Night Trap? Do we want a separate "platform" for VR? Should it be split between PCVR and PSVR?

Anyway, here is the games list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17iUxJf5xgG73RMLXYQxO2i-RBGZGcYl6jTz5MHVsKDc/edit?usp=sharing

And here it is in text, I'll try to keep this up to date with any amendments made to the Google Sheet. You'll see that in the google sheet there's a column to highlight remasters/re-releases/early access. We might not use these but feel free to fill them in if you happen to know them, it might help inform discussion on if we keep them in or not.

If you add/remove items from the google sheet it'd be worth letting us know in thread:
11-11: Memories Retold (PC, PS4, XBO)
428: Shibuya Scramble (PC, PS4)
7'scarlet (PSVita)
8-bit ADV Steins;Gate (NS)
A Certain Magical Virtual-On (PS4, PSVITA)
A Way Out (PC, PS4, XBO)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Aegis Defenders (NS, PC, PS4)
Age of Empires: Definitive Edition (PC)
Agony (PC, PS4, XBO)
All-Star Fruit Racing (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Aqua Moto Racing Utopia (NS, WIIU)
Ark: Survival Evolved (NS)
Armored Warfare (PS4)
Artifact (PC)
Asdivine Hearts (NS)
Asdivine Hearts II (PC, XBO)
Ashen (PC, XBO)
Assassin's Creed Odyssey (PC, PS4, XBO)
Assassin's Creed Rogue: Remastered (PS4, XBO)
Assault Gunners HD Edition (PC, PS4)
Astro Bot Rescue Mission (PS4)
Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings (NS, PC, PS4)
Attack on Titan 2 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
ATV Drift & Tricks (NS)
Bass Pro Shops: The Strike – Championship Edition (NS)
Batman: The Enemy Within (NS)
Battle Chasers: Nightwar (NS)
Battlefield V (PC, PS4, XBO)
BattleTech (PC)
Battlezone: Gold Edition (PC, PS4, XBO)
Bayonetta (NS)
Bayonetta 2 (NS)
Below (PC, XBO)
Bendy and the Ink Machine (NS, PS4, XBO)
Big Buck Hunter Arcade (NS)
Biohazard 7: Resident Evil Cloud Version (NS)
Black Clover: Quartet Knights (PC, PS4)
Blade Strangers (NS, PC, PS4)
BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle (NS, PC, PS4)
Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (NS, PC, PS4, PSVITA, XBO)
Borderlands 2 VR (PS4)
Boundless (PS4)
Bravo Team (PS4)
Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse (NS)
Burnout Paradise Remastered (PS4, XBO)
Cabela's: The Hunt - Championship Edition (NS)
Call of Cthulhu: The Official Video Game (PC, PS4, XBO)
Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Candle: The Power of the Flame (NS)
Capcom Beat 'Em Up Bundle (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (3DS, NS)
Carnival Games (NS)
Castlevania Requiem (PS4)
Celeste (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Chasm (PC, PS4, PSVITA)
Chicken Range (NS)
Chuchel (MOBILE, PC)
City of Brass (PC, PS4, XBO)
Civilization VI: Rise and Fall (PC)
Closed Nightmare (NS, PS4)
Code of Princess EX (NS)
Conan Exiles (PC, PS4, XBO)
Corpse Party 2: Dead Patient (PC)
Cosmic Star Heroine (NS)
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (NS, PC, XBO)
Crayola Scoot (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Crisis on the Planet of the Apes VR (PC, PS4, RIFT)
CrossCode (PC)
Cultist Simulator (PC)
Dakar 18 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Damascus Gear: Operation Osaka (PC, PS4, PSVITA)
Dark Rose Valkyrie (PC)
Dark Souls Remastered (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Darkest Dungeon (NS, XBO)
Darksiders III (PC, PS4, XBO)
DayZ (PC)
De Blob 2 Remastered (NS, PS4, XBO)
De Blob Remastered (NS)
Dead Cells (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Death end re;Quest (PS4)
Death Mark (NS, PS4)
Death's Gambit (PC, PS4)
Deltarune (PC)
Déraciné (PSVR)
Detective Pikachu (3DS)
Detroit: Become Human (PS4)
Devil May Cry HD Collection (PC, PS4, XBO)
Diablo III: Eternal Collection (NS)
Dies irae: Amantes amentes (NS)
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth – Hacker's Memory (PS4, PSVITA)
Dillon's Dead-Heat Breakers (3DS)
Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories (PS4)
Disgaea 1 Complete (NS, PS4)
Dissidia Final Fantasy NT (PS4)
Divinity: Original Sin II (PS4, XBO)
DJMax Respect (PS4)
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (NS)
Don't Starve (NS)
Donut County (MOBILE, PC, PS4)
Dragalia Lost (MOBILE)
Dragon Ball FighterZ (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Dragon Quest Builders (NS)
Dragon Quest Builders 2 (NS, PS4)
Dragon Quest XI (PC, PS4)
Dream Daddy: Dadrector's Cut (PS4)
Dust: An Elysian Tail (NS)
Dynasty Warriors 9 (PC, PS4, XBO)
EA Sports UFC 3 (PS4, XBO)
Earth Defense Force 4.1: Wing Diver The Shooter (PC)
Earth Defense Force 5 (PS4)
Echo Combat (Oculus Rift)
Echo VR (Oculus Rift)
Eve: Burst Error R (NS)
Extinction (PC, PS4, XBO)
F1 2018 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Fallen Legion: Rise to Glory (NS)
Fallout 76 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Fallout Shelter (NS, PS4)
Far Cry 5 (PC, PS4, XBO)
FAR: Lone Sails (PC)
Farming Simulator 19 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Fe (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Fear Effect Sedna (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Fernz Gate (NS, PS4, XBO)
FIFA 19 (NS, PC, PS3, PS4, X360, XBO)
Fighting EX Layer (PC, PS4)
Final Fantasy XV: Pocket Edition (NS)
Final Fantasy XV: Windows Edition (PC)
Firefighters: Airport Fire Department (NS)
Firefighters: The Simulation (NS)
Firewall: Zero Hour (PSVR)
Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise (PS4)
Flashback: Remastered Edition (NS)
Flinthook (NS)
Flipping Death (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Floor Kids (PC)
Fortnite Battle Royale (NS)
Forza Horizon 4 (PC, XBO)
Frantics (PS4)
Frostpunk (PC)
Frozen Synapse 2 (PC)
Full Metal Panic! Fight: Who Dares Wins (PS4)
Gal Gunvolt Burst (PS4)
Gal Metal (NS)
Gal*Gun 2 (NS, PS4)
Gear.Club Unlimited 2 (NS)
Ghost of a Tale (PC)
Giana Sisters Twisted Dreams: Owltimate Edition (NS)
Gintama Rumble (PS4)
Girls und Panzer: Dream Tank Match (PS4)
Go Vacation (NS)
God Eater 3 (PS4)
God of War (PS4)
God Wars: The Complete Legend (NS)
Gone Home (NS)
Goosebumps The Game (NS)
Gravel (PC, PS4, XBO)
Grip: Combat Racing (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
GRIS (NS, PC)
Guacamelee! 2 (PC, PS4)
Gundemoniums (PS4, PSVITA)
Gwent: The Witcher Card Game (PC, PS4, XBO)
H1Z1 (PC)
Happy Birthdays (NS)
Harvest Moon: Light of Hope Special Edition (NS, PS4)
Head AS Code (PC)
Heaven Will Be Mine (PC)
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (XBO)
Hello Kitty Kruisers (NS)
Hello Lady! Superior Dynamis (PSVita)
Hello Neighbor (MOBILE, NS, PS4)
Heroine Anthem Zero — Episode 1 (PS4)
Hidden Folks (NS)
Hitman 2 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Hollow Knight (NS, PS4, XBO)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Hunting Simulator (NS)
Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition (NS)
Iconoclasts (PC, PS4, PSVITA)
Ikaruga (NS)
Immortal Unchained (PC, PS4, XBO)
Indie Pogo (PC)
InnerSpace (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Inside (NS)
Insurgency: Sandstorm (PC)
Into the Breach (NS, PC)
Jake Hunter Detective Story: Ghost of the Dusk (3DS)
Judge Eyes (PS4)
Jurassic World Evolution (PC, PS4, XBO)
Just Cause 4 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Just Dance 2019 (NS, PS4, WII, WIIU, X360, XBO)
Katamari Damacy Reroll (NS, PC)
Kerbal Space Program: Enhanced Edition (PS4, XBO)
Ketsui Deathtiny: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi (PS4)
Kimi no Hitomi ni Hit Me (PS4, PSVITA)
King of Fighters '97 Global Match (PC, PS4, PSVITA)
Kingdom Come: Deliverance (PC, PS4, XBO)
Kirby Battle Royale (3DS)
Kirby Star Allies (NS)
Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk (NS, PC, PS4)
Laser League (PC, PS4, XBO)
Layers of Fear: Legacy (NS)
Layton's Mystery Journey DX (NS)
Legend of Kay Anniversary (NS)
Legendary Fishing (NS, PS4)
Lego DC Super-Villains (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Lego Harry Potter Collection (NS, XBO)
Lego The Incredibles (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Let It Die (PC)
Liar Princess and the Blind Prince (NS, PS4, PSVITA)
Life Is Strange 2 – Episode 1: Roads (PC, PS4, XBO)
Light Fall (NS, PC)
Limbo (NS)
Little Dragons Café (NS, PS4)
Little Nightmares: Complete Edition (NS)
Little Witch Academia: Chamber of Time (PC, PS4)
London Detective Mysteria (PSVita)
Long Gone Days (PC)
Lost Sphear (NS, PC, PS4)
Luigi's Mansion (3DS)
Lumines Remastered (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Madden NFL 19 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Maelstrom (PC)
Mario Tennis Aces (NS)
Mark of the Ninja: Remastered (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Marooners (PS4, XBO)
Mega Man 11 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Mega Man Legacy Collection (NS)
Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 (NS)
Mega Man X Legacy Collection (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Metal Gear Survive (PC, PS4, XBO)
Metal Max Xeno (PS4)
Minit (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
MLB The Show 18 (PS4)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Battle Operation 2 (PS4)
Monkey King: Master of the Clouds (PS4)
Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Monster Energy Supercross: The Official Videogame (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate (NS)
Monster Hunter: World (PC, PS4, XBO)
Moonlighter (NS, PC)
Moss (PS4)
Moto Racer 4 (NS)
MotoGP 18 (NS)
MUSYNX (NS)
Mutant Football League: Dynasty Edition (NS)
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden (PC, PS4, XBO)
Muv-Luv Alternative (PSVita)
Muv-Luv (PSVita)
MX vs. ATV All Out (PC, PS4, XBO)
My Hero One's Justice (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
My Riding Stables - Life with Horses (NS)
Naruto to Boruto: Shinobi Striker (PC, PS4, XBO)
NASCAR Heat 3 (PC, PS4, XBO)
NBA 2K Playgrounds 2 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
NBA 2K19 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
NBA Live 19 (PS4, XBO)
New Gundam Breaker (PS4)
Next Up Hero (NS, PS4, XBO)
NHL 19 (PS4, XBO)
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (PC, PS4)
Nickelodeon Kart Racers (NS, PS4, XBO)
Nier: Automata (XBO)
Night in the Woods (NS)
Night Trap: 25th Anniversary Edition (NS)
Nintendo Labo Robot Kit (NS)
Nintendo Labo Variety Kit (NS)
No Man's Sky (XBO)
Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (PC, PS4)
Northgard (PC)
Nostalgic Train (PC)
Octogeddon (PC)
Octopath Traveler (NS)
OK K.O.! Let's Play Heroes (NS)
Ōkami HD (NS)
Omen of Sorrow (PS4)
Omensight (PC, PS4)
Omensight: The Definitive Edition (NS)
Onrush (PS4, XBO)
Outlast (NS)
Outlast 2 (NS)
Overcooked 2 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Overkill's The Walking Dead (PC)
Overload (PC, PS4, XBO)
Override: Mech City Brawl (PC, PS4, XBO)
Owlboy (NS, PS4, XBO)
Pac-Man Championship Edition 2 Plus (NS)
Paladins (NS)
Parkitect (PC)
Part Time UFO (MOBILE)
Past Cure (PC, PS4, XBO)
Path of Exile (PS4)
Pathfinder: Kingmaker (PC)
PAW Patrol: On a Roll! (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Payday 2 (NS)
Penguin Wars (NS)
Penny-Punching Princess (NS, PSVITA)
Persona 3: Dancing in Moonlight (PS4, PSVITA)
Persona 4: Dancing All Night (PS4)
Persona 5: Dancing in Starlight (PS4, PSVITA)
Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth (3DS)
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire (PC)
Pit People (PC, XBO)
Pixel Puzzle Collection (Mobile)
Planet Alpha (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds (PS4)
Pokémon Quest (NS)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! (NS)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Professional Construction: The Simulation (NS)
Project Highrise: Architect's Edition (NS)
Project Nimbus: Code Mirai (PS4)
Psychedelica of the Ashen Hawk (PSVita)
Psychedelica of the Black Butterfly (PC, PSVITA)
Psyvariar Delta (NS, PS4)
Punch Club (NS)
Punch Line (PC, PS4, PSVITA)
Q.U.B.E. 2 (PC, PS4, XBO)
R.B.I. Baseball 18 (NS, PS4, XBO)
Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology (3DS)
Railway Empire (PC, PS4, XBO)
Rainbow Skies (PS3, PS4, PSVITA)
Rapala Fishing Pro Series (NS)
Red Dead Redemption 2 (PS4, XBO)
Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition (PC, PS4, XBO)
Regalia: Of Men and Monarchs - Royal Edition (NS, PS4, XBO)
Return of Double Dragon (SNES)
Return of the Obra Dinn (PC)
Revenant Dogma (NS, PC, PS4, VITA)
Robocraft Infinity (XBO)
RPG Maker MV Trinity (NS, PS4)
Runbow (NS)
Runner3 (NS, PC)
Rust (PC)
Salt and Sanctuary (NS)
Saturday Morning RPG (NS)
Scribblenauts Mega Pack (NS, PS4, XBO)
Scribblenauts Showdown (NS, PS4, XBO)
Sea of Thieves (PC, XBO)
Secret of Mana (PC, PS4, PSVITA)
Sega Genesis Classics (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Shadow of the Colossus (PS4)
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (PC, PS4, XBO)
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse (NS)
Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Shenmue (PC, PS4, XBO)
Shenmue II (PC, PS4, XBO)
Shin Hayarigami (MOBILE)
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux (3DS)
Shining Resonance Refrain (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
SINNER: Sacarifice for Redemption (NS, PS4, XBO)
SINNER: Sacrifice for Redemption (PC)
Sky Force Reloaded (NS)
SNK 40th Anniversary Collection (NS)
SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy (NS, PS4)
Snow Moto Racing Freedom (NS)
Sonic Mania Plus (NS, PS4, XBO)
Soulcalibur VI (PC, PS4, XBO)
South Park: The Fractured but Whole (NS)
South Park: The Stick of Truth (NS)
Spider-Man (PS4)
Spintires: Mudrunner – American Wilds Edition (NS)
Sports Party (NS)
Spyro Reignited Trilogy (PS4, XBO)
Star Control: Origins (PC)
Stardew Valley (PSVita)
Starlink: Battle for Atlas (NS, PS4, XBO)
State of Decay 2 (PC, XBO)
State of Mind (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
SteamWorld Dig (NS)
Steins;Gate 0 (PC)
Steins;Gate Elite (NS, PS4, PSVITA)
Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram (PS4)
Steven Universe: Save the Light (NS)
Strange Brigade (PC, PS4, XBO)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Street Fighter V Arcade Edition (PC, PS4)
Subnautica (PC, PS4, XBO)
Sudden Strike 4: European Battlefields Edition (XBO)
Sunless Sea: Zubmariner Edition (PS4)
Super Bomberman R (PC, PS4, XBO)
Super Mario Party (NS)
Super Mega Baseball 2 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Super Neptunia RPG (NS, PS4)
Super Robot Wars X (PS4, PSVITA)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (NS)
Super Street: The Game (PC, PS4, XBO)
Surviving Mars (PC, PS4, XBO)
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido (3DS, NS)
Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet (PC, PS4, XBO)
Syberia 3 (NS)
Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (NS)
Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum Session! (PS4)
Tanglewood (MD, PC)
Tennis World Tour (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Tetris Effect (PS4)
The Alliance Alive (3DS)
The Awesome Adventures of Captain Spirit (PC, PS4, XBO)
The Banner Saga (NS)
The Banner Saga 2 (NS)
The Banner Saga 3 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
The Banner Saga Trilogy (NS)
The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep (PC)
The Crew 2 (PC, PS4, XBO)
The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset (PC, PS4, XBO)
The Escapists 2 (NS)
The Forest (PS4)
The Inpatient (PS4)
The Last Remnant: Remastered (PS4)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II (PC)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II: Kai (PS4)
The Longest 5 Minutes (NS, PC, PSVITA)
The Lost Child (NS, PS4, PSVITA)
The Messenger (NS, PC)
The Missing: J.J. Macfield and the Island of Memories (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
The Night Journey (PC, PS4)
The Quiet Man (PC, PS4)
The Seven Deadly Sins: Knights of Britannia (PS4)
The Swords of Ditto (PC, PS4)
The Unlikely Legend of Rusty Pup (PC)
The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 1: Done Running (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 2: Suffer the Children (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2 (PS4)
The World Ends with You: Final Remix (NS)
This Is the Police 2 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales (PC, PS4, XBO)
Titan Quest (NS)
Toki (NS)
Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia (PC)
Touhou Azure Reflections (PS4)
Touhou Genso Wanderer: Reloaded (NS, PS4)
Trailblazers (NS)
Tsioque (PC)
Two Point Hospital (PC)
Under Night In-Birth Exe: Late[st] (PS3, PS4, PSVITA)
Undertale (NS)
Underworld Ascendant (PC)
Unravel Two (PC, PS4, XBO)
Valkyria Chronicles 4 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Valthirian Arc: Hero School Story (NS, PC, PS4)
Vampyr (PC, PS4, XBO)
Vegas Party (NS)
Victor Vran: Overkill Edition (NS)
Walden, a Game (PS4)
Wandersong (NS, PC)
Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor – Martyr (PC, PS4, XBO)
Warhammer: Vermintide 2 (PC, PS4, XBO)
WarioWare Gold (3DS)
Warriors Orochi 4 (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Wasteland 2: Director's Cut (NS)
Way of the Passive Fist (PC, PS4, XBO)
We Happy Few (PC, PS4, XBO)
We Were Here Too (PC)
Wild Guns Reloaded (NS)
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (NS)
World of Final Fantasy Maxima (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth (PC)
World to the West (NS)
Wreckfest (PC, PS4, XBO)
WWE 2K19 (PC, PS4, XBO)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna – The Golden Country (NS)
Yakuza 0 (PC)
Yakuza 3 (PS4)
Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (PS4)
Yakuza Kiwami 2 (PS4)
Yesterday Origins (NS)
Yo-Kai Watch Blasters: Red Cat Corp and White Dog Squad (3DS)
Yoku's Island Express (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
Yomawari: The Long Night Collection (NS)
Yonder: The Cloud Catcher Chronicles (NS)
Your Four Knight Princesses Training Story (NS, PS4, PSVITA)
Ys Origin (XBO)
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana (NS, PC)
Ys: Memories of Celceta (PC)
Yume Nikki: Dream Diary (PC)

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    To combine two of my favorite things, numbered lists and pedantry, let me take a crack at which games should not be included due to being remasters, late to the party ports of previously released games, etc.:


    Age of Empires: Definitive Edition (PC)
    Ark: Survival Evolved (NS)
    Batman: The Enemy Within (NS)
    Bayonetta (NS)
    Bayonetta 2 (NS)
    Biohazard 7: Resident Evil Cloud Version (NS)
    Burnout Paradise Remastered (PS4, XBO)
    Cabela's: The Hunt - Championship Edition (NS)
    Capcom Beat 'Em Up Bundle (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Civilization VI: Rise and Fall (PC)
    Conan Exiles (PC, PS4, XBO)
    Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (NS, PC, XBO)
    Dark Souls Remastered (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Darkest Dungeon (NS, XBO)
    De Blob 2 Remastered (NS, PS4, XBO)
    De Blob Remastered (NS)
    Devil May Cry HD Collection (PC, PS4, XBO)
    Diablo III: Eternal Collection (NS)
    Divinity: Original Sin II (PS4, XBO)
    Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (NS)
    Don't Starve (NS)
    Dream Daddy: Dadrector's Cut (PS4)
    Dust: An Elysian Tail (NS)
    Fallout Shelter (NS, PS4)
    Final Fantasy XV: Pocket Edition (NS)
    Final Fantasy XV: Windows Edition (PC)
    Fortnite Battle Royale (NS)
    Giana Sisters Twisted Dreams: Owltimate Edition (NS)
    Gone Home (NS)
    Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (XBO)
    Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition (NS)
    Ikaruga (NS)
    Inside (NS)
    Katamari Damacy Reroll (NS, PC)
    Kerbal Space Program: Enhanced Edition (PS4, XBO)
    Layers of Fear: Legacy (NS)
    Lego Harry Potter Collection (NS, XBO)
    Life Is Strange 2 – Episode 1: Roads (PC, PS4, XBO)
    Limbo (NS)
    Little Nightmares: Complete Edition (NS)
    Lumines Remastered (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Mark of the Ninja: Remastered (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Mega Man Legacy Collection (NS)
    Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 (NS)
    Mega Man X Legacy Collection (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Mutant Football League: Dynasty Edition (NS)
    Nier: Automata (XBO)
    Night in the Woods (NS)
    Night Trap: 25th Anniversary Edition (NS)
    Nintendo Labo Robot Kit (NS)
    Nintendo Labo Variety Kit (NS)
    No Man's Sky (XBO)
    Ōkami HD (NS)
    Path of Exile (PS4)
    Payday 2 (NS)
    PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds (PS4)
    Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition (PC, PS4, XBO)
    Salt and Sanctuary (NS)
    Scribblenauts Mega Pack (NS, PS4, XBO)
    Scribblenauts Showdown (NS, PS4, XBO)
    Sega Genesis Classics (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Shadow of the Colossus (PS4)
    Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    Shenmue (PC, PS4, XBO)
    Shenmue II (PC, PS4, XBO)
    SNK 40th Anniversary Collection (NS)
    South Park: The Fractured but Whole (NS)
    South Park: The Stick of Truth (NS)
    Spintires: Mudrunner – American Wilds Edition (NS)
    Spyro Reignited Trilogy (PS4, XBO)
    Stardew Valley (PSVita)
    SteamWorld Dig (NS)
    Street Fighter V Arcade Edition (PC, PS4)
    Subnautica (PC, PS4, XBO)
    Sunless Sea: Zubmariner Edition (PS4)
    The Banner Saga (NS)
    The Banner Saga 2 (NS)
    The Banner Saga Trilogy (NS)
    The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset (PC, PS4, XBO)
    The Escapists 2 (NS)
    The Forest (PS4)
    The Last Remnant: Remastered (PS4)
    The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 1: Done Running (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 2: Suffer the Children (NS, PC, PS4, XBO)
    The World Ends with You: Final Remix (NS)
    Titan Quest (NS)
    Undertale (NS)
    Victor Vran: Overkill Edition (NS)
    Wasteland 2: Director's Cut (NS)
    Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (NS)
    Yakuza 0 (PC)
    Yakuza 3 (PS4)
    Yakuza Kiwami 2 (PS4)

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Going to argue on Yakuza Kiwami 2.

    It shares a story, but the game is brand new. New missions, new mini games, new side stories, new fighting style.

    And added in a Majima Story mode which is completely new.

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  • BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    I think basically splitting the difference would be the core feature set (story, gameplay) of a game. If its mostly the same I'd argue for not including it, if it has an expansion pack attached to a rerelease... Ehhhh

    Because by this stage of the generation we're going to reach that point where not only are all the timed exclusivity deals that Sony and Microsoft make going to start expiring, but every indie developer is going to start spooging their whatever on the Switch and that's just going to inflate the numbers

    (I say this mostly because if left as is Katamari Rerolled would be the best game in this list and compared to most of the rest it wouldn't even be close. And that's not fair for the rest of these games! :P)

  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    Yay! Thanks for putting this up. As always, I have many suggested additions, but I will wait for the link to add them myself. In the meantime, a couple of entries worth discussing:
    • Deltarune: is this a demo? Taking these notes into consideration, there's not really a guarantee that there will be a full version, but if there is it will only be one further release rather than multiple episodes. My personal inclination is that it stay on the list, but maybe retitled as Deltarune Chapter 1.
    • Fortnite Battle Royale: will this be the year Fortnite makes it onto the list, or will we do the traditional thing and wait for it to be officially out of early access? Are Battle Royale and Save the World the same game or two different games? Fortnite is significantly different even on a month to month basis, could it even make sense to just include it as an option every year from now on? It's probably the game I put the most hours into in 2018, but I'm afraid I have no answers to these questions.

    Also, great work, Lawndart. But Subnautica came out of early access this year as well as getting console releases, and it looks like it was excluded from previous polls, so I think this is actually its time to remain.

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    Also, great work, Lawndart. But Subnautica came out of early access this year as well as getting console releases, and it looks like it was excluded from previous polls, so I think this is actually its time to remain.

    I think the same is also true of Conan Exiles.

  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Cheers guys, I'll get the changes and additions done and upload the google spreadsheet tonight.

    Also I think Fortnite should go on, and that we should start to do away with the "No Early Access" rule. Early Access has changed significantly from when that rule was implemented. I think as long as a game is close to its peak of popularity (and it's fairly difficult to judge, I know) then it should go on.

    Potentially the same with some remasters. Things like Spyro - it's been that long and the remaster involved so much work that I'd argue it should be eligible. (I'd probably vote for Shadow of the Colossus)

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    Regarding remasters, my suggested rule would probably be whether the two are different enough to count as separate entries if we were to run an 'all-time' poll, but I don't feel strongly about this.

  • BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    edited January 11
    I'm mixed on Spyro because they clearly rebuilt the games from the ground up and just did it in a way that remained faithful to the design tenets of the original titles. But then I could say the same for Katamari, which is technically remade in Unity with emulation of the finer points like physics from the PS2 files and stuff.

    That'd be super nitpicky though

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Well, easy way to think about it:

    Do people want to vote on remakes/remasters/early access?
    Would anyone be pissed off if a remake/remaster came high up the list?

    If the consensus is a "Yes" followed by a "No" then I think we just throw them in.

    This isn't because it makes curating the list easier each year. Not at all. Nope.

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  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    I think the general rule of no ports, re-releases, and remasters is for the best. Unless there is a significant difference in either the game or a really big time gap. Like I would probably let Spyro in because of how old the games are plus they basically made a brand new game that just emulates the originals. But like dark souls remaster is out because it is mostly an upres with a few tweaks to the lighting engine. Just my two cents.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Google sheet link added. Haven't had chance to add/change based on comments yet though. Will try and get it done later.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    edited January 11
    Was the Crash Bandicoot remake in the list last year?

    Spyro looks like more of that, but I haven't actually played it so I can't say how different it is from the classic ones.

    I would say something like the new RE2 is a good candidate for a remake in this list since it looks to completely look like a new game.

    If you showed the two games playing next to each other to someone who's never seen it, would they able to tell the difference? Might be a good way to think about it?

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    I propose we run a poll just for voting yes or no on whether each remake should be included in the other poll or not. I think I'm joking.

  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    Also, great work, Lawndart. But Subnautica came out of early access this year as well as getting console releases, and it looks like it was excluded from previous polls, so I think this is actually its time to remain.

    I think the same is also true of Conan Exiles.

    Yeah, they both officially came out of early access this year, so they should very much be on the list.

  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Thanks for doing this again this year! I love seeing the results every year.

    I would love to add

    Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia (iPhone, Android)

    if possible. I've probably played that game more this year than any other game.

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    List needs Timespinner (PC, PS4, Vita) and Battle Princess Madelyn (PC, PS4, XB1, NS)

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    I added a few games to the Google sheet, and marked a few as rereleases/ports.

    Are we allowed to delete stuff or should we leave everything on there for now?

  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited January 13
    +1 Putting Fortnite: BR in the 2018 list so it can get #13th place and we don't have to worry about it next year.

    Also, Wizard of Legend is missing.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Deleting stuff is fine, just post up what you delete in case anyone disagrees. I don't mind what's on the list personally as long as the majority agree.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    Work's slow today so I went through and took these off- most of them are rerelases/Switch ports or classic games collections, but feel free to tell me if any of these should stay up:


    Age of Empires: Definitive Edition PC
    Ark: Survival Evolved NS
    Assassin's Creed Rogue: Remastered PS4, XBO
    Assault Gunners HD Edition PC, PS4
    Bayonetta NS
    Bayonetta 2 NS
    Biohazard 7: Resident Evil Cloud Version NS
    Borderlands 2 VR PS4
    Burnout Paradise Remastered PS4, XBO
    Castlevania Requiem PS4
    Civilization VI: Rise and Fall PC
    Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy NS, PC, XBO
    Dark Souls Remastered NS, PC, PS4, XBO
    De Blob 2 Remastered NS, PS4, XBO
    De Blob Remastered NS
    Devil May Cry HD Collection PC, PS4, XBO
    Diablo III: Eternal Collection NS
    Disgaea 1 Complete NS, PS4
    Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze NS
    Don't Starve NS
    Dragon Quest Builders NS
    Dust: An Elysian Tail NS
    Fallout Shelter NS, PS4
    Final Fantasy XV: Pocket Edition NS
    Final Fantasy XV: Windows Edition PC
    Flashback: Remastered Edition NS
    Flinthook NS
    Giana Sisters Twisted Dreams: Owltimate Edition NS
    Gone Home NS
    Goosebumps The Game NS
    Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition NS
    Katamari Damacy Reroll NS, PC
    Kerbal Space Program: Enhanced Edition PS4, XBO
    Little Nightmares: Complete Edition NS
    Luigi's Mansion 3DS
    Lumines Remastered NS, PC, PS4, XBO
    Mark of the Ninja: Remastered NS, PC, PS4, XBO
    Mega Man Legacy Collection NS
    Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 NS
    Mega Man X Legacy Collection NS, PC, PS4, XBO
    Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate NS
    Nier: Automata XBO
    Night in the Woods NS
    Night Trap: 25th Anniversary Edition NS
    No Man's Sky XBO
    Omensight: The Definitive Edition NS
    Outlast NS
    Outlast 2 NS
    Owlboy NS, PS4, XBO
    Pac-Man Championship Edition 2 Plus NS
    PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds PS4
    Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition PC, PS4, XBO
    Secret of Mana PC, PS4, PSVITA
    Sega Genesis Classics NS, PC, PS4, XBO
    Shadow of the Colossus PS4
    Shantae and the Pirate's Curse NS
    Shenmue PC, PS4, XBO
    Shenmue II PC, PS4, XBO
    SNK 40th Anniversary Collection NS
    Sonic Mania Plus NS, PS4, XBO
    South Park: The Stick of Truth NS
    SteamWorld Dig NS
    Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection NS, PC, PS4, XBO
    Street Fighter V Arcade Edition PC, PS4
    Super Bomberman R PC, PS4, XBO
    The Banner Saga NS
    The Banner Saga 2 NS
    The Banner Saga Trilogy NS
    The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset PC, PS4, XBO
    The Last Remnant: Remastered PS4
    The World Ends with You: Final Remix NS
    Undertale NS
    Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus NS
    WarioWare Gold 3DS


    There's still a few marked as rerelases/ports, but I didn't know enough about them to feel comfortable cutting them off.

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    Pooch wrote: »
    feel free to tell me if any of these should stay up

    Titles on that list which I feel could be debatable based on current discussion surrounding remakes are: Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition, Secret of Mana, Shadow of the Colossus, SNK 40th Anniversary Collection, and WarioWare Gold. But I haven't actually played any of these, so I'm hoping people more knowledgable than me will be able to do the debating.

  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Thanks guys! Discussion is slow on here. I vote we remove remasters but keep in any particular early access titles people feel passionate enough about.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    edited January 15
    I'm still against putting early access titles on the list. It just creates an uneven playing field.

    Either you're judging a game, that has not officially released, as if it was a fully released title, and thus dock it for excessive bugs, balance issues, missing features or whatever, even though the game may never even have been presented as being complete yet. Otherwise, you have make an exception for those issues because the game isn't "done" yet, which is kind of shitty when it's going to get compared to a ton of games that are "done" and thus will get dinged for any unfinished issues.

    The solution, IMO, is to just wait for the game to come out of early access before it's eligible. That's the dividing line where an issue goes from being something you can excuse, to something you can judge on. Coming out of Early Access should be considered the developer going "We're ready for our work to be judged."

    Fornite is a weird case where it probably should have come out of early access ages ago. However, Epic still finds it necessary to label it as Early Access, so that's on them if it's not eligible for the list.

    EDIT: Remasters/Remakes are weird.

    My stance on it is how much of it is emulating the original, and how much of it is a game that's just inspired by the original. If it's the same levels and same characters, often with extremely similar controls and game feel, just with shiny new graphics on top of it, I would call that a game that already came out and thus as ineligible as a GotY edition would be.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    edited January 15
    Pooch wrote: »
    feel free to tell me if any of these should stay up

    Titles on that list which I feel could be debatable based on current discussion surrounding remakes are: Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition, Secret of Mana, Shadow of the Colossus, SNK 40th Anniversary Collection, and WarioWare Gold. But I haven't actually played any of these, so I'm hoping people more knowledgable than me will be able to do the debating.

    I didn't play WarioWare and thought it was just a collection of the old games. Looking at some videos, it looks like they do some clever things and combines the different games in cool ways that I could see it in here. It's a bit more than just"play any of the WarioWare games."

    The other ones mostly look like nicer versions of the original? I get that some of them were kind of made from the ground up (vs. just up-resed) but did they add much more to the actual game?



    I don't play enough Early Access to really weigh in on that, tbh the whole concept still kind of confuses me. I thought Fortnite was out of Early Access when they added the actual Fortnite mode/put it on PS4?

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Pooch wrote: »
    Pooch wrote: »
    feel free to tell me if any of these should stay up

    Titles on that list which I feel could be debatable based on current discussion surrounding remakes are: Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition, Secret of Mana, Shadow of the Colossus, SNK 40th Anniversary Collection, and WarioWare Gold. But I haven't actually played any of these, so I'm hoping people more knowledgable than me will be able to do the debating.

    I didn't play WarioWare and thought it was just a collection of the old games. Looking at some videos, it looks like they do some clever things and combines the different games in cool ways that I could see it in here. It's a bit more than just"play any of the WarioWare games."

    The other ones mostly look like nicer versions of the original? I get that some of them were kind of made from the ground up (vs. just up-resed) but did they add much more to the actual game?



    I don't play enough Early Access to really weigh in on that, tbh the whole concept still kind of confuses me. I thought Fortnite was out of Early Access when they added the actual Fortnite mode/put it on PS4?

    Nope, it still says "Early Access" when you load the game as far as I know, even on PS4 (despite the PS4 having no Early Access system)

  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    I think "Early Access" should not be a hard rule. Let us use our judgment to put a game in this years list or wait. Just keep the rule of only showing up once.

    It makes little sense to me to have situations where the "real" #1 game of the year not even on the list because despite crazy popularity and review it's "Early Access." The industry has definitely changed over recent years.

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    WarioWare should definitely be on the list. There are new games and modes on top of the ‘greatest hits’ stuff

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  • President EvilPresident Evil Let's Rock Registered User regular
    I do think that there’s a distinction to be made between a port and a remake. If there are no objections, I think Capcom Beat ‘Em Up Bundle and Okami HD are probably safe to come off.

    Noticed some old games, too: Hellblade (2017), Salt and Sanctuary (2016), & Stardew Valley (2016).

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    WarioWare should definitely be on the list. There are new games and modes on top of the ‘greatest hits’ stuff

    Rad, I really have to get around to playing that.

    Added it back on.

  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Pooch wrote: »
    feel free to tell me if any of these should stay up

    Titles on that list which I feel could be debatable based on current discussion surrounding remakes are: Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition, Secret of Mana, Shadow of the Colossus, SNK 40th Anniversary Collection, and WarioWare Gold. But I haven't actually played any of these, so I'm hoping people more knowledgable than me will be able to do the debating.

    Red Faction Guerrilla is purely a remaster and not a remake.

    For me a remake has to add or change the original game substantially to count. Tetris Effect should certainly be on the list, while Borderlands 2 VR is a maybe, while ports and remasters are almost always a hard no.
    Infidel wrote: »
    I think "Early Access" should not be a hard rule. Let us use our judgment to put a game in this years list or wait. Just keep the rule of only showing up once.

    It makes little sense to me to have situations where the "real" #1 game of the year not even on the list because despite crazy popularity and review it's "Early Access." The industry has definitely changed over recent years.

    Keeping EA games off does make sure that games aren't judged too prematurely. I'm hoping Subnautica is in the top 10 this time but if it was being judged by its first few EA builds I doubt it would place that highly.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    Like I said earlier, let Fortnite on, it'll end up mid-teens and we all move on with our lives. They're more than happy to charge microtransactions, so I'm more than happy to rank them as a game in Early Access in name only.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    Just cut:
    Lego Harry Potter Collection NS, XBO
    Limbo NS
    Hollow Knight NS, PS4, XBO
    Payday 2 NS
    The Escapists 2 NS
    World to the West NS
    Ikaruga NS
    Inside NS
    Salt and Sanctuary NS
    Syberia 3 NS
    The Escapists 2 NS
    Titan Quest NS

    What's the deal with the Persona games? It looks like 2-5 are on there, are those just ports to the PS4?

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    No, they're new titles. They're music/rhythm games based on the series'...uh....music.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    Cool-- just added:
    Florence
    The Gardens Between

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Thanks for picking up the slack on this! I'll be honest, I get about ten minutes every night free time so I've struggled to sort this out :smile:

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  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    I added Kingdom: Two Crowns because it is competing with Sea of Thieves for my Very Important GOTY vote. They're both just packed so full of love and feel very... focused.

    I also added Desert Child because while it feels very much like a polished up game jam entry, like a small amateur project that could use fleshing out etc. (probably because that's what it is) it is also v cool.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    I added:
    Wizard of Legend, as mentioned above.

    I removed:
    Persona 4 Dancing All Night, released 2015
    Punchclub, it was on PC in 2017.

    I also normalized all the text.

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  • jammujammu Sorry honey, I'm working late again. Registered User regular
    I’m not proficient with google docs, but could someone add ”Six Ages: Ride Like The Wind”?

    It was released 2018 on IOS devices and its my favourite game of the year

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    My big list update is still pending as I try to figure out how to add a lot of entries efficiently and without messing anything up. In the meantime:

    World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth is a weird entry, yeah? I suspect it should be removed, unless expansions are also fair game now.

    I also think Fortnite: Battle Royale should be changed to just be Fortnite, since all modes are kinda part of the same game.

  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    jammu wrote: »
    I’m not proficient with google docs, but could someone add ”Six Ages: Ride Like The Wind”?

    It was released 2018 on IOS devices and its my favourite game of the year

    Added for you.

    Also combined "SINNER: Sacarifice for Redemption" with "SINNER: Sacrifice for Redemption". I'm assuming one was a typo?

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