It's probably pointless to try to pin down their adaptation on any specific book, since the whole Foundation series is easily the least filmable work Asimov ever did and so the adaptation is bound to be extremely loose.
Eh, I don't think it's unfilmable. Just structured in an unusual way. They could copy that structure successfully, I think. They probably won't, the cowards, but they *could*. In fact I can think of a very successful TV show that had a similar structure, one with a broad, historical sweep and lots of time-skips, etc: Roots (1977).
Is anyone watching Watchmen on HBO? If I posted a thread would people post in it?
Haven't had a chance yet, but I'm planning on watching the first 2 episodes sometime this week. I'll post in said thread and love talking about the Moore graphic novel and the film.
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I would totally watch the Watchmen series if I had HBO, but my normal behavior is to sign up for a few months a year, catch up on everything I've missed, then go dark again. There's not enough for me to justify $15 per month year round.
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The series has sounded interested and gotten buzz from critics whose opinions I trust, buuut if I'm gonna watch it I'm probably just going to wait until the whole first season is out
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Is anyone watching Watchmen on HBO? If I posted a thread would people post in it?
I would, though I'd always be at least a week behind, added to which I'm about to go away on holiday for three weeks. But yeah, based on episode 1 I'm very much into it: my impression is that it's a smart, audacious riff on Moore's comic.
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I’m not gonna start watching this series until Alan Moore finishes writing it.
Learned that lesson the hard way.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
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I’m not gonna start watching this series until Alan Moore finishes writing it.
Learned that lesson the hard way.
I'm pretty sure Alan Moore has nothing to do with the show. He pretty much hates any time DC trots out his characters. To the point where he insists his name be removed from pretty much any film/TV adaptation.
Ironic considering he made the characters up because he couldn't use the Charlton Comics characters
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I suppose I should have been clearer that I was joking
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Sometimes I think Alan Moore is just a cranky old man, then I read something like they let Damon Lindelof write a Watchmen series. "Ah, ok, I guess I see where it comes from."
'“What would be horrendous, and DC could legally do it, would be to have Rorschach crossing over with Batman or something like that, but I’ve got enough faith in them that I don’t think they’d do that,” he told Neil Gaiman in a public interview preserved by the Comics Journal.'
Sometimes I think Alan Moore is just a cranky old man, then I read something like they let Damon Lindelof write a Watchmen series. "Ah, ok, I guess I see where it comes from."
Lindelof's written what I'd argue is one of the best TV series of the century to date, and he's off to a very good start with Watchmen. He's also done some terrible, terrible stuff, but based on the strength of The Leftovers I'll gladly let him try his hand at defiling Uncle Alan.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Sometimes I think Alan Moore is just a cranky old man, then I read something like they let Damon Lindelof write a Watchmen series. "Ah, ok, I guess I see where it comes from."
Lindelof's written what I'd argue is one of the best TV series of the century to date, and he's off to a very good start with Watchmen. He's also done some terrible, terrible stuff, but based on the strength of The Leftovers I'll gladly let him try his hand at defiling Uncle Alan.
It also helps to remember that the reason that so many of us were disappointed with Lost's last couple seasons is because what led up to them was incredibly entertaining.
So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
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So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote Prometheus and World War Z? Yeah, consider me skeptical. I hear good things about the series though. That it is a one season story makes me more hopeful, but I can wait until more episodes come out before jumping in.
So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote Prometheus and World War Z? Yeah, consider me skeptical. I hear good things about the series though. That it is a one season story makes me more hopeful, but I can wait until more episodes come out before jumping in.
I'm never going to jump on anyone for their scripts for a movie, especially a blockbuster. It's practically a cliche at this point that what happens in the original script has very little relation to what happens on the screen. There's a reason that "What the fuck did they do to my script!" Hollywood memoirs are practically a genre.
TV showrunners, on the other hand, do have a lot of power to make sure their vision is executed as they desire.
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So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote...World War Z?
They are now dead to me.
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So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote...World War Z?
They are now dead to me.
World War Z could have been an eight part mini series event like Chernobyl and absolutely killed it as a serious dramatized documentary and instead we got Brad Pitt NATO Ninja.
I am in the business of saving lives.
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So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote...World War Z?
They are now dead to me.
World War Z could have been an eight part mini series event like Chernobyl and absolutely killed it as a serious dramatized documentary and instead we got Brad Pitt NATO Ninja.
It wasn't even an awful movie, it just wasn't World War Z.
So far I've enjoyed the first two episodes of Watchmen and unless it turns really south I'll finish out the season.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote...World War Z?
They are now dead to me.
To be fair, it was written by three people.
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Matthew Michael Carnahan
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So that prank show, Prank Encounters, done by the kid from Stranger Things that got a bunch of bad press a while back is on Netflix.
I checked it out and its literally, like almost fully literally, just Scare Tactics. Look, Scare Tactics is like my guilty pleasure of reality tv shows and I've watched a ton of it. I love it, its great, it makes me laugh and its fascinating what people will believe when they are in the middle of a stressful situation. So when the first episode started, I was kind of pumped to realize it was just a reskinned Scare Tactics. The first episode followed a super familiar formula, except they got pretty ambitious and were attempting to prank two different people at once. Otherwise, the whole thing was basically the same with a crazy premise and some staged events that got the victims scared and freaked out. It even has some of the same actors and stuff. But then the end came and the first real and only major difference reared its head and I think its a huge downgrade from the original show. I'd dare to say it changes the entire tone of the show for the worse.
In Scare Tactics, they would end the scare by asking the victim, "Are you scared? You shouldn't be, you're on Scare Tactics" and then they'd point out the cameras and talk the person down a bit. Most importantly, though, they would bring out the friend or family member that put them on the show and there'd be this fun interaction of the victim getting mad at their friend, hugging it out and overall showing that everything was cool.
In Prank Encounters, stranger things kid just kind of comes out and tells them its a prank. He tries to confusingly point out its not real and ask if they know who he is. The whole process is a bunch less clear and feels much more confusing and sort of ... mean(?) compared to Scare Tactics. Show them getting some money or a prize or something.
They should have kept the end formula. Especially the part where a friend or family member is the one responsible for putting the victim on the show. As is, it just feels like an actor meanly picking on random people.
Had a lot of fun watching Daybreak today. As a parent I loved telling my kid about things like Ferris Beuller references and she loved the stylistic choices through out. 10/10 would recommend
I just got done watching Daybreak and I was very pleasantly surprised by it. It's got enough character development, humour and twists to be worth giving a go, although it did also feel a bit laser targeted to appeal to the "grew up in the 80s/90s" demographic at times.
I really hope there's a season two - if nothing else I want to see where the
Sam as villain and Ms. Crumble as whatever-the-fuck-she-is
plotlines go.
I've enjoyed it as well. I love Angelica and her "I'm a genius with a very flexible morality."
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I found they had season 1 of the terror on hulu so I started catching up on it...and I don't really like it. I'm giving it a lot of rope because I love the era and setting and Jared Harris but I was under the impression it was supposed to be more of a lovecraftian sort of story rather than
Finished Big Mouth season 3, and it was probably the best season yet. I'm really glad they reduced their usage of Coach Steve, he was previously the most annoying character by far.
Three episodes into Living With Yourself, the Paul Rudd clone thing. So far I have much more sympathy for the clone than original Paul Rudd and his generic white-collar angst. Curious to see where it goes, though!
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Finished Big Mouth season 3, and it was probably the best season yet. I'm really glad they reduced their usage of Coach Steve, he was previously the most annoying character by far.
Three episodes into Living With Yourself, the Paul Rudd clone thing. So far I have much more sympathy for the clone than original Paul Rudd and his generic white-collar angst. Curious to see where it goes, though!
Oh my god, that's a show!? I thought it was a movie!
Partner and I are two episodes into Big Mouth 3, and yeah they're very funny. Still a raunchy show that does a good job of making light of serious issues.
I found they had season 1 of the terror on hulu so I started catching up on it...and I don't really like it. I'm giving it a lot of rope because I love the era and setting and Jared Harris but I was under the impression it was supposed to be more of a lovecraftian sort of story rather than
some weird Predator-like story
that aspect of the story isn't huge. Its a plot device not the main story.
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I found they had season 1 of the terror on hulu so I started catching up on it...and I don't really like it. I'm giving it a lot of rope because I love the era and setting and Jared Harris but I was under the impression it was supposed to be more of a lovecraftian sort of story rather than
some weird Predator-like story
It’s not really Lovecraftian, in the sense that Lovecraft’s Great Old Ones were essentially unknowable, beyond the ability of human minds to comprehend. What’s happening in The Terror is merely beyond the ability of British minds to comprehend.
It is a great show, though. The thing in your spoiler is kind of a red herring, the story is more about the crew and what happens to them than anything else.
Yeah, it just kind of feels a little distracting to me, because the ACTUAL IRL scenario is horrible enough without the supernatural stuff. It just feels a little like padding.
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And it's still far better than the Battle of Winterfell.
I was really curious about it but don't have an HBO sub
Haven't had a chance yet, but I'm planning on watching the first 2 episodes sometime this week. I'll post in said thread and love talking about the Moore graphic novel and the film.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
I'm planning to watch it but probably no time until next weekend. I may hold off until I can shotgun it four episodes at a time.
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Learned that lesson the hard way.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I'm pretty sure Alan Moore has nothing to do with the show. He pretty much hates any time DC trots out his characters. To the point where he insists his name be removed from pretty much any film/TV adaptation.
Ironic considering he made the characters up because he couldn't use the Charlton Comics characters
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
As i understand it, it's a one season show.
I'm still waiting for that Lost Girls adaptation.
Narrator: He wasn't.
That one skeleton that looks around and says "Let's get the hell out of here!" Still makes me laugh and I've seen that movie easily fifty times.
It is? Thats... disappointing. It's been phenomenal so far and I was kinda hoping itd be the new GoT.
I guess that's Succession.
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It's a one season story. That doesn't preclude a new arc telling a different story.
Ah. So like True Detective then?
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'“What would be horrendous, and DC could legally do it, would be to have Rorschach crossing over with Batman or something like that, but I’ve got enough faith in them that I don’t think they’d do that,” he told Neil Gaiman in a public interview preserved by the Comics Journal.'
:?
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
It also helps to remember that the reason that so many of us were disappointed with Lost's last couple seasons is because what led up to them was incredibly entertaining.
I don't know if anyone else has conflicted feelings about Lindelof, but I hated Lost past season 1 and I loved The Leftovers.
They also wrote Prometheus and World War Z? Yeah, consider me skeptical. I hear good things about the series though. That it is a one season story makes me more hopeful, but I can wait until more episodes come out before jumping in.
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I'm never going to jump on anyone for their scripts for a movie, especially a blockbuster. It's practically a cliche at this point that what happens in the original script has very little relation to what happens on the screen. There's a reason that "What the fuck did they do to my script!" Hollywood memoirs are practically a genre.
TV showrunners, on the other hand, do have a lot of power to make sure their vision is executed as they desire.
They are now dead to me.
World War Z could have been an eight part mini series event like Chernobyl and absolutely killed it as a serious dramatized documentary and instead we got Brad Pitt NATO Ninja.
It wasn't even an awful movie, it just wasn't World War Z.
I still love the submarine story from that book though. I'd love to see that adapted into a short.
To be fair, it was written by three people.
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I checked it out and its literally, like almost fully literally, just Scare Tactics. Look, Scare Tactics is like my guilty pleasure of reality tv shows and I've watched a ton of it. I love it, its great, it makes me laugh and its fascinating what people will believe when they are in the middle of a stressful situation. So when the first episode started, I was kind of pumped to realize it was just a reskinned Scare Tactics. The first episode followed a super familiar formula, except they got pretty ambitious and were attempting to prank two different people at once. Otherwise, the whole thing was basically the same with a crazy premise and some staged events that got the victims scared and freaked out. It even has some of the same actors and stuff. But then the end came and the first real and only major difference reared its head and I think its a huge downgrade from the original show. I'd dare to say it changes the entire tone of the show for the worse.
In Scare Tactics, they would end the scare by asking the victim, "Are you scared? You shouldn't be, you're on Scare Tactics" and then they'd point out the cameras and talk the person down a bit. Most importantly, though, they would bring out the friend or family member that put them on the show and there'd be this fun interaction of the victim getting mad at their friend, hugging it out and overall showing that everything was cool.
In Prank Encounters, stranger things kid just kind of comes out and tells them its a prank. He tries to confusingly point out its not real and ask if they know who he is. The whole process is a bunch less clear and feels much more confusing and sort of ... mean(?) compared to Scare Tactics. Show them getting some money or a prize or something.
They should have kept the end formula. Especially the part where a friend or family member is the one responsible for putting the victim on the show. As is, it just feels like an actor meanly picking on random people.
https://try.shudder.com/halloween2019
I went ahead and got it. $3 a month is almost nothing and there are a bunch of shows I want to watch on there.
I've enjoyed it as well. I love Angelica and her "I'm a genius with a very flexible morality."
Three episodes into Living With Yourself, the Paul Rudd clone thing. So far I have much more sympathy for the clone than original Paul Rudd and his generic white-collar angst. Curious to see where it goes, though!
Oh my god, that's a show!? I thought it was a movie!
Partner and I are two episodes into Big Mouth 3, and yeah they're very funny. Still a raunchy show that does a good job of making light of serious issues.
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that aspect of the story isn't huge. Its a plot device not the main story.
It’s not really Lovecraftian, in the sense that Lovecraft’s Great Old Ones were essentially unknowable, beyond the ability of human minds to comprehend. What’s happening in The Terror is merely beyond the ability of British minds to comprehend.
It is a great show, though. The thing in your spoiler is kind of a red herring, the story is more about the crew and what happens to them than anything else.
Are any of the Shudder originals worth watching?