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Penny Arcade - Comic - Compromise
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Penny Arcade - Comic - Compromise
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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Dr. Disrespect of even basic human decency.
-Tycho Brahe
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The guy literally broke the law and company policy by recording inside a bathroom. That is an excellent reason to ban someone!
Not to mention that the footage showed him filming a child in the bathroom. He should be considering himself lucky that he's just being banned at the moment.
Sure but pretending his character is not a character is exactly the same as pretending penny arcade’s jokes are endorsements of “rape culture”. The SJWs have won on this front.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Groups who use the term "SJW" have almost universally swapped out their humor card for a second outrage card, so they can SLI their butthurt. I'm not sure they're the best arbiters of comedy.
Oh, wait, never mind, I am sure.
Nice ad hominem mixed with some sick identity politics.
Sorry, I should have said the terms "SJW" or "identity politics." Thanks for the help.
Keep reaching for those stars.
It was both mixed together. The bathroom crap was obviously wrong, though there’s no evidence to suggest some kind of horrific intent, but pretending he’s just been a legitimate real monster is EXACTLY what people did to Penny Arcade. Now they’re doing it.
Who here (or in the comic) has said he's a "real monster"? He's a guy who recorded and broadcast people (including children) using the bathroom four different times. The action speaks for itself. There's no interpretation in which that's an okay thing to do. Doesn't mean you're Hitler, but there's plenty of bad behavior that would make people tell you to stay off their property because you're a fucking embarrassment to their business.
You go into a bathroom while filming, then yeah, you're a monster because you're intruding on people in a very intimate way. Not to mention that it doesn't take long to find out about his past behavior, either.
There’s a number of internet posts also saying Penny Arcade has terrible behavior because of their jokes. Yay we’re all monsters and no one is happy anymore. Congrats.
There really is no point in engaging you on this. You're pretty firm in your mindset. Going to have to go with The Dude's approach on this one.
Or, you know, you can actually address the content of what's being said, instead of trying to make the argument that somehow, it's a bad thing when people call out bad conduct on anyone's part.
It’s clearly a bad thing when people confuse comedy with bad behavior. It means all words must then be taken seriously at all times and annihilates a fundamental component of human expression.
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No, it doesn't - what it means is that comedy, like any sort of human expression, can be bent to bad and abusive ends, either intentionally or not. As the sci-fi author John Scalzi put it, "the failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'."
Thank you, it’s rare to have one’s achievements highlighted publicly in this way.
Your missing some crucial things here. I never said he was a horrible person, or a monster or anything even remotely like that. I said he demonstrated poor judgment, and disregarded others. De-platforming is exactly the right move in this instance, the comparison to PA's indiscretions in the past is tenuous at best. PA is largely their own entity, if they say or do something terrible, they pretty much affect themselves and their employees, what DD did brought negative attention to the platform as a whole, a platform that he doesn't own. Beyond that, PA ate a lot of shit for a couple years, and ultimately Mike ended up owning up to his mistakes, DD has a history of this shit. There is a world of difference here. I'm not saying drag him out in the street and knee-cap him, I'm saying he fucked up bad, and the idea that he should be de-platformed for it permanently is perfectly reasonable. Saying that people are anti-comedy, or pro censorship because they feel DD crossed a line that most would agree is practically radioactive is a bit silly and only makes sense if you apply motivated logic.
Filming people including children using the bathroom without their consent is indeed the height of comedy.
Since you're so good at discerning what humor is I thought I should point out this is a form of humor usually classified as irony or sarcasm.
Right ok let’s try this out then. You just used the word “asshole”. If I wanted to, I could write an article about what you really meant when you used that word, and paint you as anything I want. It doesn’t even matter that you were quoting someone so even my quote of your quote could then be used against me. This is actually something people do now in real life and it’s mind boggling.
The moment you inch anywhere near comedy you’re going to give someone ammunition if they want to take you literally enough. So we can do that and progressively cleanse our speech until it’s completely gone or, maybe, we can try to be a little more honest about the intent of others?
Kurt Vonnegut said it best - "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Comedy is not an excuse to be a goose.
Another thing that hasn't changed is people putting the blame on everyone else because, clearly, they must just be too sensitive.
Is it impossible to be too sensitive? It would seem obvious that a person could in fact be too sensitive but is that’s what has changed? Have we all decided that sensitivity has no reasonable upper limit?
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So, I'm okay with someone who did that more than once by a lot being punished for it, to discourage that kind of behavior, both for him and others.
Oh look, another dodge. Here's the thing - freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the repercussions of speech. You can say what you like, but the thing is that people get to respond to it. All the "too sensitive" argument means is that you don't actually have an argument to people pointing out the problems they have with what was originally said, so you're just trying to dismiss it.
As a matter of fact, I do think it's possible to be "too sensitive."
I do not think there is an excuse for people who film others going to the bathroom. There's no "too sensitive" about it. Dude is in the wrong and should actually be in jail imho, but my opinion isn't the law.
But I heard its ok, his wife uses a restroom and that makes it ok
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