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Final Fantasy 14! Shadowbringers! The best expansion to an MMO ever!

Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
edited August 11 in MMO Extravaganza
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FFXIV: Stormblood is available on Windows, MacOS, PS4. Windows version can be purchased online, in-store or via Steam
All clients play on the same servers. The PS3 client has been discontinued. You will be unable to purchase a licence for Stormblood content for the PS3 client.
  • Free trial <Link>
  • Benchmark tool and character designer <Link>

Trial accounts have the following limitations:
  • Maximum of 300,000 gil on a character
  • Limited to level 35 or below
  • Unable to use /shout, /yell, and /tell chat modes
  • Unable to access the marketboard, create/use retainers, send/receive in-game mail, and trade with other players
  • Unable to join/create Free Companies (guilds), unable to create but can join if invited parties and linkshells
  • Unable to progress past floor 10 of the Palace of the Dead
  • No time limitation. Characters can be transferred to a full paid account with no time limitations if created after patch 3.56
  • Characters created on a trial account before patch 3.56 have a 90 day time limit to be transferred to a full paid account

Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 12
    edit: hey this is where the PA community is apparently

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    note that it's not like a PA exclusive community there's a bunch of people from just the server in general

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 11
    Useful game information

    - Gearing

    Gear calculator
    http://ffxiv.ariayla.com

    Theorycrafting blog
    https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/


    - Combat

    What do I need to do to get caught up with Heavensward and all the unlockable stuff?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3bheg1/guide_to_catching_up_to_patch_30_heavensward/

    I'm a fresh, newbie level 60. Now what?
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/10GOT6OpviApNsCIKiDJfVpktObeETow9cSNacnb-jyA/edit

    Setting up useable targeting filters
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1knlxo/demystifying_targeting_and_filters_a_keyboard_and/

    Give me the quick and dirty on tanking! In style!
    Tanking 101
    Aggro Management

    What's all these stats do?
    Combat stats are divided into two types: Primary and Secondary stats
    For the sake of brevity, only the basic outline will be covered. Exceptions and "buts" which apply to high-end PvE content will not be mentioned due to added complexity and if you're at the point of optimising at that level, this info isn't for you.

    Primary stats include Strength, Dexterity, Intellect, Mind and Vitality. All of these stats can be allocated with your bonus points for levelling up.
    Secondary stats include Critical Hit, Determination, Direct Hit, Tenacity, Skill Speed, Spell Speed and Piety.
    A "tertiary" stat is weapon damage. Weapon damage is king and any increase will make a very significant impact on your effectiveness.

    Each combat class/job will have a preferred primary stat. For tanks, this is Vitality. Melee DPS except Rogues/Ninjas will favor Strength. Ranged physical DPS and Rogues/Ninjas want Dexterity. Casters will want Intellect and finally Healers want Mind. The primary stats will have a significant effect on all your abilities.

    Secondary stats are a fair bit more complicated.
    Critical Hit - Increases the chance for a hit to deal extra damage as a critical hit. This stat also increases the severity of the critical hits.
    Direct Hit - Similar to Critical Hit, Direct Hits deal extra damage compared to a normal hit. Compared to critical hit, direct hits are lower severity, but occur more often. As with critical hit, this stat increases the severity of the direct hits in addition to increasing the chance a direct hit will occur. This stat can only be found on DPS role gear, however it can be melded via materia on Tank and Healer gear.
    Determination - Increases the potency of all skills and abilities.
    Skill Speed - Rather complex stat. It affects Damage over Time effects at around the same potency as Determination but has other effects in reducing the GCD of weaponskills. Advanced players who are aiming at optimising their play will seek certain amounts of skill speed. Value is dependant on job.
    Tenacity - A new stat introduced with 4.0 Stormblood. This stat replaces Parry and is only available on tank gear, and only affects jobs and classes of the Tank role. This stat increases damage done, reduces damage taken and increases the potency of healing spells and effects.
    Spell Speed - Similar to Skill Speed, this stat affects the cast time and the GCD of spells. Black Mages will sell their own mothers for more spell speed and as a result, the stat occupies a value higher than crit for them. It's still a good stat for any other caster, including healers as it also affects periodic effects such as Damage over Time effects and Heal over Time effects.
    Piety - This stat increases the maximum MP of class and jobs of the Healer role. It will not have any effect on Tank or DPS role classes. Piety also has the side-effect of increasing MP regeneration as the base regeneration is a function of maximum MP set at 2% every 3 seconds while in combat. The amount of MP desired by healers differs based on personal preference with some favouring a larger MP pool to have a strong reserve amount while others prefer minimal amounts of MP. As of 4.0 Stormblood, Piety is now considered as a full secondary stat, and has the same equipment stat caps as all the other secondary stats on all 4.0 and newer items.


    - Hunts and assorted combat content

    Hunt trackers
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/HuntTracker/Sargatanas/

    Centurio Seal hunt mark pathfinder
    http://www.ffxivhuntspath.co.uk/

    Hunt hot spots
    http://imgur.com/a/9ZtbV

    Treasure map reference guide
    http://14eorzea.seesaa.net/article/438008632.html

    What about some Pee Vee Pee?
    https://pvpaissa.com/


    - Crafting and Gathering

    Really awesome starter guide on crafting
    http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-advanced-crafting-guide-by-caimie-tsukino.39/

    Crafting Simulator
    http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/simulator

    Crafting shopping list (Slightly out of date)
    http://ffxivcrafting.com/

    Item database & crafting lists
    http://www.garlandtools.org/db

    Eorzea Database
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/

    A Realm Reborn (Pre-Heavensward) Unspoiled gathering guide
    http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-unspoiled-gathering-guide-by-caimie-tsukino.53/

    Heavensward gathering guide
    http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-heavensward-gathering-guide-by-caimie-tsukino.157/

    Gathering node spawn tracker
    http://garlandtools.org/bell/

    Pokedex of fishing
    http://en.ff14angler.com/


    - Housing and Gardening

    Housing furniture catalogue
    http://en.ff14housing.com/

    Gardening cross-breeding
    http://www.ffxivgardening.com/

    Airship guide
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/245872-Airship-Guide


    - Other stuff

    Triple Triad resource
    http://ffxivtriad.com/cards

    Squadron Calculator
    http://ffxivsquadron.com/[/quote]

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    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
  • CorriganXCorriganX Registered User regular
    I have finally leveled my GNB to 80, that means I have SCH DRK SMN and DRG at 80 now. I really really really enjoyed the role quests man. They were super engaging and a fun thing, but I kinda missed more of the class story stuff.

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  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere Clock King Registered User regular
    we at least still get job quests at 80, the gathering and crafting classes weren't so lucky, as much as I'm enjoying the crystalline mean

  • CorriganXCorriganX Registered User regular
    Yeah, but those 80 Quests were more of like a capstone on my job's story so far. It wasnt really as engaging, y'know?

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    CorriganX wrote: »
    Yeah, but those 80 Quests were more of like a capstone on my job's story so far. It wasnt really as engaging, y'know?

    I thought the DRK one was good.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    CorriganX wrote: »
    Yeah, but those 80 Quests were more of like a capstone on my job's story so far. It wasnt really as engaging, y'know?

    I thought the DRK one was good.

    Same for the WAR one. It was exactly the resolution I wanted from the 60-70 chain in Stormblood.

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  • BilliardballBilliardball Registered User regular
    edited July 25
    SCH quest was good too. SMN was a capstone to a story, but not the one I expected.

    AST one was ehhh.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    SCH one is good, and also kind of a big deal in terms of potential impact on the world. At the same time they can't really show it outside of future SCH quests so...

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    It's amazing how, after completing ShB's MSQ, returning to Eorzea feels quaint and nostalgic. In particular, I've been thinking about the ARR patch content era when I convinced my buddy to play. I was healthier (diabetes more under control and I hadn't yet been hospitalized because of a major kidney stone issue), and my buddy wasn't even married, let alone a father. It's kind of crazy how old MMO content feels almost like going home again.

    Anyway, the devs missed a detail:
    Urangier is still in the Waking Sands. I visited to see if there was any post-expansion dialogue like there is in the Rising Stones, and there he was in his old model glory giving out hard and ex primal fights and musing about Ala Mhigo. I guess they didn't have the time/inclination to add a new phase to that HQ where he's replaced by someone else.

    I chuckled. The bastard lied to me again after explicitly promising not to! :P

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  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere Clock King Registered User regular
    the important thing is that fisher, the only class or job in the game that actually matters, still gets a story all to itself

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I'm still slowly plugging away at the Shadowbringers MSQ. Just an hour here and an hour there. Level 74 now. In the thick of it in Rak'tika.

    Man this game is good.

    The Scions continue to be my favorite Final Fantasy main party of all time. I'd take Y'shtola, Thancred, the Levelleurs, Uriange, Lyse, and all the rest over the main party in any other FF game.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Hey it's me, your old pal Movie Sonic - let me in. LEMME IN. Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    It's amazing how, after completing ShB's MSQ, returning to Eorzea feels quaint and nostalgic. In particular, I've been thinking about the ARR patch content era when I convinced my buddy to play. I was healthier (diabetes more under control and I hadn't yet been hospitalized because of a major kidney stone issue), and my buddy wasn't even married, let alone a father. It's kind of crazy how old MMO content feels almost like going home again.

    Anyway, the devs missed a detail:
    Urangier is still in the Waking Sands. I visited to see if there was any post-expansion dialogue like there is in the Rising Stones, and there he was in his old model glory giving out hard and ex primal fights and musing about Ala Mhigo. I guess they didn't have the time/inclination to add a new phase to that HQ where he's replaced by someone else.

    I chuckled. The bastard lied to me again after explicitly promising not to! :P

    I think they know, I just don't think they're going to bother.
    You can skip the Alexander stuff as well, come back later and oh hi Y'shtola how ya doin'

    It's generally easy enough to accept as a given that past content takes place in the past. At least it's not a godawful mess of inconsistency like Associate Professor Whom or Timelord Grundlebash.

    destroyah87Nightslyr
  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere Clock King Registered User regular
    yeah, you just kind of have to assume content takes place chronologically in the order it was implemented, and not in the order you personally experience it, or else much of it makes no sense

    the 30-50 dragoon storyline in paticular becomes absolutely bonkers if you don't finish it before heavensward

    strangely, the culinarian storyline has the same problem, to some extent

    the 30-50 monk storyline even half-heartedly tries to handwave things, but it still becomes kind of silly if you don't do it before stormblood

  • NumiNumi Registered User regular
    edited July 25
    yeah, you just kind of have to assume content takes place chronologically in the order it was implemented, and not in the order you personally experience it, or else much of it makes no sense

    the 30-50 dragoon storyline in paticular becomes absolutely bonkers if you don't finish it before heavensward

    strangely, the culinarian storyline has the same problem, to some extent

    the 30-50 monk storyline even half-heartedly tries to handwave things, but it still becomes kind of silly if you don't do it before stormblood

    Going back and doing the dragoon quests after already having cleared HW is like:

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  • ZundeZunde Registered User regular
    Did 60-70 Dark knight and the whole story felt kind of lame but the finale was pretty great. Doing warrior now

    Now that i got all my HW Birds i have been passing time jumping into any farm partys for ARR/HW on dark knight working on the Tankless job for it 81 Kills to go.

    Also spent four hours in Rhalgars playing cards with an npc to get Alpha and Omega cards bringing me to 205 total triad cards since he had roulette it also got me the Vaan card for 300 Roulette wins!

    Speaking of tankless job i noticed there is a second set for each class for 60+ Content it says 50/60/70 roulette only works if you have daily bonus but the wording is strange can i just grind 61+ dungeons or is it really limited to 61+ extremes and roulette?

  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    edited July 25
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Hey it's me, your old pal Movie Sonic - let me in. LEMME IN. Registered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.

    Er, I think you missed/forgot it.
    Conrad is killed at Specula Imperatoris.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited July 25
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way." Could you expand on that a bit? The game engine can handle player phasing and zone changes, as far as I am aware. So I don't know what you're referencing there by use of "real life writing the plot." Though that has happened a few times in the game's history but nothing that I would think qualifies happened during the Stormblood msq. One character* being out of the picture for the Heavensward main story initially is the big one that comes to mind.

    * Explanation
    Yugiri, because the voice actor that played her, Sian Blake, was murdered around the time.

    FFXIV 1.0 pushing off Titan/Levethian primal fights due to the Japan earthquake and tsunami is the other one.

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style Warning: Mothership Reporting Richland, WARegistered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I started playing this with a couple friends because of all the Shadowbringers hype and it's pretty good. Leveling a BRD (32 now) and while the 20ish MSQs are deeply tedious it's been a good time overall.

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Gyoshin: Please atleast feign distress over our plight!
    Yeah, Namazu quests are great :D

  • NumiNumi Registered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Gyoshin: Please atleast feign distress over our plight!
    Yeah, Namazu quests are great :D

    Indeed, nothing comes close to the namazu beast tribe quests in terms of a comedy arc.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Numi wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Gyoshin: Please atleast feign distress over our plight!
    Yeah, Namazu quests are great :D

    Indeed, nothing comes close to the namazu beast tribe quests in terms of a comedy arc.

    Well, Hildebrand. Moogles are up there.

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    Polaritie wrote: »
    Numi wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Gyoshin: Please atleast feign distress over our plight!
    Yeah, Namazu quests are great :D

    Indeed, nothing comes close to the namazu beast tribe quests in terms of a comedy arc.

    Well, Hildebrand. Moogles are up there.

    H-How can they slap?!

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!
    Unlike Zenos, i am actually enjoying myself, i don't go around killing people while bored.
    I probably would like Zenos more if he did not look so bored all the time.
    Also the constant evil for evils sake cruelty.
    I mean, i hoped for some examples on how the empire is evil when i started this expansion, and boy has it delivered. o.0

  • NumiNumi Registered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!
    Unlike Zenos, i am actually enjoying myself, i don't go around killing people while bored.
    I probably would like Zenos more if he did not look so bored all the time.
    Also the constant evil for evils sake cruelty.
    I mean, i hoped for some examples on how the empire is evil when i started this expansion, and boy has it delivered. o.0

    Perhaps that is why I did especially mind Zenos after the initial dumb bits. We are both stuck doing fights that present no real challenge and we get pestered into doing things we don't give a single shit about by people that think we should be all peppy about it despite it being mostly boring. Also he likes getting loot, I like getting loot, we are totally bros.

  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    aha! WHM started to click finally. Now that I've been blessed with better pugs in dungeon roulettes I can finally DPS. I still get the occasional tank that's undergeared or doesn't use any CDs but in general it's been more good than bad. I am still sticking to MKB for healing tho. Tanking with a controller is pretty straightforward but I'm not sure about healing yet.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited July 25
    Numi wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!
    Unlike Zenos, i am actually enjoying myself, i don't go around killing people while bored.
    I probably would like Zenos more if he did not look so bored all the time.
    Also the constant evil for evils sake cruelty.
    I mean, i hoped for some examples on how the empire is evil when i started this expansion, and boy has it delivered. o.0

    Perhaps that is why I did especially mind Zenos after the initial dumb bits. We are both stuck doing fights that present no real challenge and we get pestered into doing things we don't give a single shit about by people that think we should be all peppy about it despite it being mostly boring. Also he likes getting loot, I like getting loot, we are totally bros.

    I've said it already: that I like Zenos as a villain, but the dude is an outright psychopath.

    But I outright reject his ideals. I fight for vastly different reasons than he does.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Hey it's me, your old pal Movie Sonic - let me in. LEMME IN. Registered User regular
    Numi wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!
    Unlike Zenos, i am actually enjoying myself, i don't go around killing people while bored.
    I probably would like Zenos more if he did not look so bored all the time.
    Also the constant evil for evils sake cruelty.
    I mean, i hoped for some examples on how the empire is evil when i started this expansion, and boy has it delivered. o.0

    Perhaps that is why I did especially mind Zenos after the initial dumb bits. We are both stuck doing fights that present no real challenge and we get pestered into doing things we don't give a single shit about by people that think we should be all peppy about it despite it being mostly boring. Also he likes getting loot, I like getting loot, we are totally bros.

    I feel like there's a bit of a weird subtext development with Zenos if you're playing a female character, by the end of the expansion I was half-expecting him to propose to me if I beat him.

    "....only someone as strong as you who can best me in battle is worthy of being my waifu!"

    destroyah87chrono_travellerMan in the Mists
  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I never got that subtext from Zenos, but sometimes during Heavensward I sure did feel like Ser Aymeric was making some gentlemanly advances on my character.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Hey it's me, your old pal Movie Sonic - let me in. LEMME IN. Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I never got that subtext from Zenos, but sometimes during Heavensward I sure did feel like Ser Aymeric was making some gentlemanly advances on my character.

    I'm willing to bet there's no small number of the fanbase that wishes this were the case.


    ....or for Zenos, as a matter of fact.

  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited July 25
    Donnicton wrote: »
    Numi wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!
    Unlike Zenos, i am actually enjoying myself, i don't go around killing people while bored.
    I probably would like Zenos more if he did not look so bored all the time.
    Also the constant evil for evils sake cruelty.
    I mean, i hoped for some examples on how the empire is evil when i started this expansion, and boy has it delivered. o.0

    Perhaps that is why I did especially mind Zenos after the initial dumb bits. We are both stuck doing fights that present no real challenge and we get pestered into doing things we don't give a single shit about by people that think we should be all peppy about it despite it being mostly boring. Also he likes getting loot, I like getting loot, we are totally bros.

    I feel like there's a bit of a weird subtext development with Zenos if you're playing a female character, by the end of the expansion I was half-expecting him to propose to me if I beat him.

    "....only someone as strong as you who can best me in battle is worthy of being my waifu!"

    I didn't get that vibe personally from Zenos but Magnai is pretty clearly thinking it and then discounts it because the player WoL isn’t “ephemeral” enough.
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I never got that subtext from Zenos, but sometimes during Heavensward I sure did feel like Ser Aymeric was making some gentlemanly advances on my character.

    Some of the solo-scenes you have with Aymeric have a touch of that subtext, yeah. I liked those scenes a lot but Aymeric is my favorite character from Heavensward

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  • NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Numi wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.
    You didn't watch the cutscene - the firing of the cannon and aftermath killed Conrad - that's why Lyse is now in charge.
    I watched the cutscene, i never skip cutscenes.
    I just don't see Lyse as a leader, administrator or even inspirational speaker material.
    I just don't buy the plot development here.
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    After taking a break from Stormblood main story to, mainly level up other jobs (i was also 67 when i needed to be 68), but also just play a bit less apart from the daily duties and beast tribe quests, back on it once more.
    We assaulted and took over a village, or so i am told, none of it was shown.
    Lyse is now the resistane leader, for reasons, i assume Conrad was suffering from concussion.
    And our allies are surprised that Zeno fired on his own men, i am not sure why.
    I'm kinda suspicious that the real life is now writing the plot in a way.
    I can't remember the game making any real changes to the maps outside very minor things in dungeons (and Alexander), so i guess they have to keep us away from anything where they want to show such changes.

    Are you even enjoying the game story? Everytime you share thoughts, it's all negative comments and snark.

    I don't understand what you mean by "real life is now writing the plot in a way."
    I'm enjoying parts of it.
    More than half even.
    My main issues are basicly Zenos, and Magnai portions.
    Plenty of issues in design, like the 67 primal, creator god of the half snake tribe, and i see not a single scale.

    Real life being not showing the capture of the village i mentioned, or our character not taking part in the assault, because the game very, very rarely (almost never outside beast tribe quests) changes the actual map looks.
    They can, but don't, maybe it's just too much of an effort to be worth it in the devs opinion.
    Like, doors, instead of doors pening and us being able to ride through, they stay stuck closed and we are given an npc to interact with to get to the other side, or even just a glowy bit, but once we have a aetherites done we can just fly over.

    Both the Kojin and the Namazu quests have been great, the plains were fun (except for Magnai and co), and i think my despair of just letting enemy officers jog away without even a token effort to stop them is quite reasonable, Kugane portion was also good, was the second Yanxia portion (Gyr Abania, has not been impressive for the most part, though i have still enjoyed parts of it).
    Alisaies increased role has also been awesome.
    And i have mentioned about how i enjoy the increased dialogue options w can pick, even if they don't really matter beyond roleplay inside our heads.

    You get some pretty great dialog options in Shadowbringers. Really makes it feel more like you have a character with personality instead of just the blank slate hero you've been most of the time. Even if those options are pretty much entirely aesthetic and don't really change anything.

    So far my favority dialogue option has been going "i'm going to kill your god if i have to, and probably even if i don't." to a quest giver before going to deal with a primal.
    My personal headcanon is that, at this point, my character is basicly killing primals for kicks.
    Earlier i had the option to explain how this rebellion was not my fight.
    And it ain't, i'm not here to liberate you, i'm here to stab people.

    you'd get along well with zenos!
    Unlike Zenos, i am actually enjoying myself, i don't go around killing people while bored.
    I probably would like Zenos more if he did not look so bored all the time.
    Also the constant evil for evils sake cruelty.
    I mean, i hoped for some examples on how the empire is evil when i started this expansion, and boy has it delivered. o.0

    Perhaps that is why I did especially mind Zenos after the initial dumb bits. We are both stuck doing fights that present no real challenge and we get pestered into doing things we don't give a single shit about by people that think we should be all peppy about it despite it being mostly boring. Also he likes getting loot, I like getting loot, we are totally bros.

    I think Zenos is meant to be a shadow archetype of the player character at some level.
    But in my case it kinda misses its mark.
    The whole "stamp on two different nations in hopes of someone coming to challenge him" thing he has going just does not resonate with me, and, as i said, i am actually enjoying myself (except when dealing with Zenos) for the most part.
    If we were shown more resigned exasperation (like what we get from ourselves in the Namazu quests), then maybe it would have worked better for me.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Just soldier on through and get to Shadowbringers.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Regarding Heavensward characters, yeah, I liked Aymeric a lot too. I didn't mean it in a negative way when I said it felt like he was hitting on my character. He's so dreamy.

    I actually really liked what they did with the "main party" in Heavensward. They took someone familiar and friendly (Alphinaud) and someone hostile (Ysale) and someone super dickish (Estinien) and paired them together to form the core main party for that expansion. The internal conflict, clash of personalities, and strained civilities with each other made for some really great moments. The storytelling in Heavensward was top notch and a lot of that was because of the party they formed to get the job done. It wasn't just a bunch of friends out on an afternoon stroll.

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