I am the dumb and bought the pass thing on like Wednesday of last week so I only had until tonight to get the quests done. I got like, 60% of them and hey thats not awful!
Hey! Me too! I was hoping to power through the last of it yesterday afternoon...but, well...
I found a bug that's driving me insane: every time I launch the game, I get a message about receiving a new Key Fragment, even though I do not get any.
I knew that LoL is a cruel game, but this is downright sadistic!
I still get a message that my friend opened a skin I sent him over a year ago, about every time I open the client
I had in my Loot inventory 520, 750 and 975 RP skins for characters I did not intend to use, so like a dumb man I am, I decided to risk it and reroll them into random permanent skin.
Surprisingly, I've got something good for it, which is Odyssey Kha'Zix - now I just have to learn to play him...
Also, I had an unused Eternum Nocturne skin shard for the last 3 years, so I finally acquired it after returning to the game - I guess I will be playing Vi in jungle and learning Kha'Zix and Nocturne now, when I am not focused on playing Fiora top?
I found a bug that's driving me insane: every time I launch the game, I get a message about receiving a new Key Fragment, even though I do not get any.
I knew that LoL is a cruel game, but this is downright sadistic!
I still get a message that my friend opened a skin I sent him over a year ago, about every time I open the client
Surprisingly, I've got something good for it, which is Odyssey Kha'Zix - now I just have to learn to play him...
Also, I had an unused Eternum Nocturne skin shard for the last 3 years, so I finally acquired it after returning to the game - I guess I will be playing Vi in jungle and learning Kha'Zix and Nocturne now, when I am not focused on playing Fiora top?
I have not had success on Kha much lately, but 1) I haven't played him a lot, just the occasional random normals game, so I'm rusty and 2) supposedly the new assassin items are good, and I have done no research into that aspect.
I do like Nocturne quite a lot! Also was iffy with him, but again see the previous lines. He's a champion I enjoy, though--pretty flexible.
Me elsewhere:
Steam, various fora: Ivellius
League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
wrt Clash, there's a new ingame feature where you can list yourself as a free agent and join randos looking for groups
I will not do it nor will I turn it on to make 5, because playing with even slightly salty people for 3-4 games is not great, let alone total randos who could have typical soloq mental. Good vibes on comms is #1 thing that makes Clash fun imo. However if you are more willing to roll the dice, it is an option and it could end up being a cool experience if you meet chill teammates.
There is something I do not understand: sometimes, despite having less farm than me, my lane opponent hits level 2 faster than me. How is this possible?
There is something I do not understand: sometimes, despite having less farm than me, my lane opponent hits level 2 faster than me. How is this possible?
Minions give exp if you are close enough to them when they die. Doesn't matter if you kill them.
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Anivia, Nami, and Varus are probably my least favorite of them, but overall I really like the new cosmic skins. Hecarim and Illaoi are really cool.
I forgot about the free agency feature, but yes, it's been a thing since at least the last tournament. No real desire to turn it on for myself, either, but it would definitely simplify the Step 1 that's actually more like "send messages to everyone you know; at least half will not respond / take forever; then you have to sort everyone for roles, and at least two who thought they could play will not. Alternatively, you'll get 10 'maybes' so good luck sorting through that."
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Steam, various fora: Ivellius
League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
There is something I do not understand: sometimes, despite having less farm than me, my lane opponent hits level 2 faster than me. How is this possible?
Aside from what everyone has said about minion xp gained by proximity, if there were lvl 1 shenanigans and your opponent got a kill, that can make them level up earlier than expected from that extra xp.
Another thing can be if you are in botlane and the support is playing out of xp range (came to lane late or positioning weirdly) the adc will take more than their fair share of the xp and level up faster than you expected.
In general, become familiar with the breakpoints for lvl 2; it’s really important to know you have a window for a great trade or even a kill if you hit it first, and similarly if you don’t hit it first you are at risk and need to play accordingly.
lol if this is where riot thinks bot lane should be, this is unbelievable.
why would anyone play adc with the balance like this. i felt like a literal god last season compared to how this is, you do zero damage, can barely kill waves even on extreme waveclear champs like jinx, you get instakilled by literally everyone. I'm honesrly baffled that this is where they thought the game should go. Crits just feels useless, there's no way any crit adc is viable right now.
i honest to god shot a jungle sion about 25 times with <10% hp, ulted him on jinx and he walked away. he had one armor item. every time he hit me with any skill i got ohkoed.
what the absolute fuck man. at least if you played perfect before you could actually kill shit. this is unbelievably bad and if they don't do a serious rework on these items soon i really doubt i'll keep playing this role, mages in bot lane have to be better, there's just no way.
wrt Clash, there's a new ingame feature where you can list yourself as a free agent and join randos looking for groups
I will not do it nor will I turn it on to make 5, because playing with even slightly salty people for 3-4 games is not great, let alone total randos who could have typical soloq mental. Good vibes on comms is #1 thing that makes Clash fun imo. However if you are more willing to roll the dice, it is an option and it could end up being a cool experience if you meet chill teammates.
Well there's plenty of us less fortunate than you on these forums that just simply cannot find teams. So I love this.
lost 3 games in a row, i had a 65% wr on adc last season, with an average line of 7.5/4/7.5
the 3 losses were 6/12/16, 1/6/1, 2/7/1. at no point did i have a single once of agency in any of the games. truly i've never seen a balance team miss the mark this bad, i'm considering refunding the star guardian skin i bought because i doubt i'll ever play jinx again.
edit: def feels like the way to go is play on hit or lethality. lethality jhin is insane, go around 2 shotting anyone who can't 2 shot you first (which is uh, not as easy as it seems when fizz is in the game). rageblade also seems bonkers good, but hard to tell because it seems like ashe is bugged right now to get crit bonuses even with rageblade.
Me and my small crew of folks regularly play bot matches. Now, normally, we just want to get in, maybe try out champs we're still kinda learning or are trying to refine a build order in beginner bots. Things have been working pretty well using that mode and difficulty in bringing new friends into giving the game a whirl. For new players, it's not too easy...for the friends who've been around a bit longer, we can hop a lane to provide support when needed.
Well, the update that landed today kinda upset that balance a bit. Looks like Riot changed up the bot item allotment to be closer to what intermediate bots are given (it's not as heavily doled out...but it's considerably more than what it used to be). Add in the overabundance of the player bots (two games in a row, two friends and I had a pair of the shittiest botters tossed into our group), and our 15-18 minute matches have turned into 25-30 minute slog fests.
Also, it feels like some of the skill-shot hitboxes have been narrowed considerably. Running Nidalee and having her spear throw appear to go through a target that would've landed a couple nights ago is infuriating. Just going to have to get used to spending a little more time getting the aim just right.
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I got too used to URF, all my timing is off and I keep forgetting mana is a thing.
I also feel like a mythic item first on ADC is a big ass trap. I've done it a few times now and I don't really feel any kind of spike in usefulness. I really need to start permabanning Vayne though.
I want URF back.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I totally hate the new item shop. I don't know how to find shit. And recommended items? That'a joke. Add in new super items, how do I even find them?
I'll probably figure this new shit out, but after playing since it first came out, this might just break me. The jungle changes a few years back broke me for a year or so. Then worlds came around, and I figured them out.
But I'm just hating playing right now with the new store, the new items, builds, etc.... especially the store. I feel like they went from a nice simple interface that even new players could use with the recommended items. It may be more fancy now, but it's confusing as fuck.
ya tanks are insane right now, top 4 top laners are all tanks with 55%+ winrates, 7 of the top 11. There is a single non-tank/ranged top laner in the top 10, wukong.
I've always enjoyed tanky league, it makes each role feel a little more important. ADCs are ADCs instead of assassins and assassins are assassins instead of ADCs that cast more spells.
It's preseason. They'll re-balance heavily. I wouldn't worry.
But this is why I don't play during preseason, otherwise I'd be doomposting as hard as Knight about the same issue! It's so upsetting when it feels like your role got bad, even if it's only temporary due to preseason. Because emotionally it's like, what if it's not temporary aaaaaaaaaaa
So I will happily come back once they've worked out the balance, but for now it is clash only and otherwise I just play other games while waiting for data to aggregate/balance to be restored
well for me it's just adc was always kinda upsetting, it's painful getting instakilled by a 1/7/5 garen who flashes on you even though you're 14/3/10. but at least before you could like, do damage generally. and the whole thing they were talking about was agency and what they were going to do to make adc feel better to play, but it's only gone the other way for the adcs i like, which sucks.
and it's like, jinx is liable to sit and be terrible for the rest of the season if they don't rework the system because she's so low playrate that they'll just forget about her. i'm going to try some different builds tonight, see if maybe rushing iedge into kraken slayer helps bring back some pop to crits or something idk.
It's preseason. They'll re-balance heavily. I wouldn't worry.
But this is why I don't play during preseason, otherwise I'd be doomposting as hard as Knight about the same issue! It's so upsetting when it feels like your role got bad, even if it's only temporary due to preseason. Because emotionally it's like, what if it's not temporary aaaaaaaaaaa
So I will happily come back once they've worked out the balance, but for now it is clash only and otherwise I just play other games while waiting for data to aggregate/balance to be restored
ADC is fine. Shieldbow and Galeforce can keep you safer. The more immobile adcs suffer yes, but the AD assassins have always been an issue for them anyways.
Also IE is bad now early. It's only good as one of your last items.
Tanks were very bad on the PBE so I'm glad to see they are doing well now
Rushing I-edge is bad. Don't do it. It requires other crit items to be good.
Rushing iedge was meta before and maybe still meta now, bad or not.
Everyone including high elo types does it on Jinx. I do also on ADCs, including Jinx, that I don't start ER on or do some sort of guinsoos path with (well and Caitlyn I usually was doing stormrazor for the early game mega auto). Currently if we look at probuilds.net, pro adc guys are building IE first on Jinx.
That's not a numbers argument as to what's optimal, but I believe it's an accurate representation of the consensus build, and it definitely feels good as you're building it. Back and buy some AD, back and buy some more AD, nice nice nice.
New IE is 3400 gold for 70 AD, 20% crit, and a passive that gives 8% crit damage for every 20% crit.
New Bloodthirster is 3400 gold for 55 AD, 20% crit, 20% lifesteal and a 50-350 health shield.
New Stormrazor is 23700 gold for 40 AD, 15% AS, 20% crit.
Immortal Shieldbow, new survivability mythic, is 3400 gold for 50 AD, 15% AS, 20% crit, 12% lifesteal, and a lifeline passive.
Kraken Slayer is 60 AD, 25% AS, 20% crit, and a massive 1/3 on hit for 60+(30% bonus AD) true damage. As a first item, that would be around 85-ish true damage I think (accounting for rune stuff)?
I'm having trouble seeing how 15 AD and 8% crit damage is worth giving up major survivability options available in other first items, and in terms of pure damage I suspect IE first loses to Kraken first. Dunno, ADC math isn't my specialty but I'm not seeing a good reason to rush IE with these other items available, and I can't imagine laning as an IE-first Jinx against something like a BT-first Draven.
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I've been really torn on build order. The new mythics give a lot but at most in all my games I've made at most 2 legendary items. A lot of that is due to me being trash but even the fed players didn't get past 2 legendaries.
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Rushing I-edge is bad. Don't do it. It requires other crit items to be good.
Did they fuck up ie again? They keep trying to change it but it's one of the items that makes adcs feel like they got a big buy in.
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IE just is no longer a rush item, looks like. Instead of boosting all crits by an extra 25% damage, it gradually gives you extra crit damage as you accumulate crit chance. I’ve done no math but it looks like it makes sense to build other crit items early, if you’re going that route, and cap your build off with an IE.
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Hey! Me too! I was hoping to power through the last of it yesterday afternoon...but, well...
My cat had other plans in mind.
I still get a message that my friend opened a skin I sent him over a year ago, about every time I open the client
Surprisingly, I've got something good for it, which is Odyssey Kha'Zix - now I just have to learn to play him...
Also, I had an unused Eternum Nocturne skin shard for the last 3 years, so I finally acquired it after returning to the game - I guess I will be playing Vi in jungle and learning Kha'Zix and Nocturne now, when I am not focused on playing Fiora top?
Me too, for several months now
I have not had success on Kha much lately, but 1) I haven't played him a lot, just the occasional random normals game, so I'm rusty and 2) supposedly the new assassin items are good, and I have done no research into that aspect.
I do like Nocturne quite a lot! Also was iffy with him, but again see the previous lines. He's a champion I enjoy, though--pretty flexible.
Steam, various fora: Ivellius
League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
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vlad's pool animation is nice, reminds me of the morde passive, which is one of the prettiest cosmic skins.
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I get 2 fucking icons. What a bait and switch
ya, it was like that for everyone. not even new icons lol, you got them for watching a twitch stream as well. rito stingy.
but these twitch things used to be full ass legendary permanents, now it's just rando shards.
ooh these are pretty
Anything that looks nice with my Dark Star Jhin is fine by me
I will not do it nor will I turn it on to make 5, because playing with even slightly salty people for 3-4 games is not great, let alone total randos who could have typical soloq mental. Good vibes on comms is #1 thing that makes Clash fun imo. However if you are more willing to roll the dice, it is an option and it could end up being a cool experience if you meet chill teammates.
Minions give exp if you are close enough to them when they die. Doesn't matter if you kill them.
FFXIV: Tchel Fay
Nintendo ID: Tortalius
Steam: Tortalius
Stream: twitch.tv/tortalius
I forgot about the free agency feature, but yes, it's been a thing since at least the last tournament. No real desire to turn it on for myself, either, but it would definitely simplify the Step 1 that's actually more like "send messages to everyone you know; at least half will not respond / take forever; then you have to sort everyone for roles, and at least two who thought they could play will not. Alternatively, you'll get 10 'maybes' so good luck sorting through that."
Steam, various fora: Ivellius
League of Legends: Doctor Ivellius
Twitch, probably another place or two I forget: LPIvellius
Aside from what everyone has said about minion xp gained by proximity, if there were lvl 1 shenanigans and your opponent got a kill, that can make them level up earlier than expected from that extra xp.
Another thing can be if you are in botlane and the support is playing out of xp range (came to lane late or positioning weirdly) the adc will take more than their fair share of the xp and level up faster than you expected.
In general, become familiar with the breakpoints for lvl 2; it’s really important to know you have a window for a great trade or even a kill if you hit it first, and similarly if you don’t hit it first you are at risk and need to play accordingly.
why would anyone play adc with the balance like this. i felt like a literal god last season compared to how this is, you do zero damage, can barely kill waves even on extreme waveclear champs like jinx, you get instakilled by literally everyone. I'm honesrly baffled that this is where they thought the game should go. Crits just feels useless, there's no way any crit adc is viable right now.
i honest to god shot a jungle sion about 25 times with <10% hp, ulted him on jinx and he walked away. he had one armor item. every time he hit me with any skill i got ohkoed.
what the absolute fuck man. at least if you played perfect before you could actually kill shit. this is unbelievably bad and if they don't do a serious rework on these items soon i really doubt i'll keep playing this role, mages in bot lane have to be better, there's just no way.
Well there's plenty of us less fortunate than you on these forums that just simply cannot find teams. So I love this.
the 3 losses were 6/12/16, 1/6/1, 2/7/1. at no point did i have a single once of agency in any of the games. truly i've never seen a balance team miss the mark this bad, i'm considering refunding the star guardian skin i bought because i doubt i'll ever play jinx again.
edit: def feels like the way to go is play on hit or lethality. lethality jhin is insane, go around 2 shotting anyone who can't 2 shot you first (which is uh, not as easy as it seems when fizz is in the game). rageblade also seems bonkers good, but hard to tell because it seems like ashe is bugged right now to get crit bonuses even with rageblade.
Me and my small crew of folks regularly play bot matches. Now, normally, we just want to get in, maybe try out champs we're still kinda learning or are trying to refine a build order in beginner bots. Things have been working pretty well using that mode and difficulty in bringing new friends into giving the game a whirl. For new players, it's not too easy...for the friends who've been around a bit longer, we can hop a lane to provide support when needed.
Well, the update that landed today kinda upset that balance a bit. Looks like Riot changed up the bot item allotment to be closer to what intermediate bots are given (it's not as heavily doled out...but it's considerably more than what it used to be). Add in the overabundance of the player bots (two games in a row, two friends and I had a pair of the shittiest botters tossed into our group), and our 15-18 minute matches have turned into 25-30 minute slog fests.
Also, it feels like some of the skill-shot hitboxes have been narrowed considerably. Running Nidalee and having her spear throw appear to go through a target that would've landed a couple nights ago is infuriating. Just going to have to get used to spending a little more time getting the aim just right.
I also feel like a mythic item first on ADC is a big ass trap. I've done it a few times now and I don't really feel any kind of spike in usefulness. I really need to start permabanning Vayne though.
I want URF back.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I totally hate the new item shop. I don't know how to find shit. And recommended items? That'a joke. Add in new super items, how do I even find them?
I'll probably figure this new shit out, but after playing since it first came out, this might just break me. The jungle changes a few years back broke me for a year or so. Then worlds came around, and I figured them out.
But I'm just hating playing right now with the new store, the new items, builds, etc.... especially the store. I feel like they went from a nice simple interface that even new players could use with the recommended items. It may be more fancy now, but it's confusing as fuck.
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Nintendo ID: Tortalius
Steam: Tortalius
Stream: twitch.tv/tortalius
But this is why I don't play during preseason, otherwise I'd be doomposting as hard as Knight about the same issue! It's so upsetting when it feels like your role got bad, even if it's only temporary due to preseason. Because emotionally it's like, what if it's not temporary aaaaaaaaaaa
So I will happily come back once they've worked out the balance, but for now it is clash only and otherwise I just play other games while waiting for data to aggregate/balance to be restored
and it's like, jinx is liable to sit and be terrible for the rest of the season if they don't rework the system because she's so low playrate that they'll just forget about her. i'm going to try some different builds tonight, see if maybe rushing iedge into kraken slayer helps bring back some pop to crits or something idk.
FFXIV: Tchel Fay
Nintendo ID: Tortalius
Steam: Tortalius
Stream: twitch.tv/tortalius
ADC is fine. Shieldbow and Galeforce can keep you safer. The more immobile adcs suffer yes, but the AD assassins have always been an issue for them anyways.
Also IE is bad now early. It's only good as one of your last items.
Tanks were very bad on the PBE so I'm glad to see they are doing well now
Rushing iedge was meta before and maybe still meta now, bad or not.
Everyone including high elo types does it on Jinx. I do also on ADCs, including Jinx, that I don't start ER on or do some sort of guinsoos path with (well and Caitlyn I usually was doing stormrazor for the early game mega auto). Currently if we look at probuilds.net, pro adc guys are building IE first on Jinx.
That's not a numbers argument as to what's optimal, but I believe it's an accurate representation of the consensus build, and it definitely feels good as you're building it. Back and buy some AD, back and buy some more AD, nice nice nice.
I'm having trouble seeing how 15 AD and 8% crit damage is worth giving up major survivability options available in other first items, and in terms of pure damage I suspect IE first loses to Kraken first. Dunno, ADC math isn't my specialty but I'm not seeing a good reason to rush IE with these other items available, and I can't imagine laning as an IE-first Jinx against something like a BT-first Draven.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Did they fuck up ie again? They keep trying to change it but it's one of the items that makes adcs feel like they got a big buy in.