I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
In The Wordy Shipmates, Sarah Vowell contrasts modern protestantism with the version the Puritans practiced by pointing out that "the Bible belt" would be more accurately called "the personal relationship with Jesus Christ Belt."
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Alaska is also an outlier among red states because it had a governor who was in hot water and staring down a recall, and despite modeling himself on Trump (to the point of changing his letterhead to include a "J" for his middle name), figured out he could score major kudos if he actually took the coronavirus seriously and pushed for a quarantine very early on, before the virus really had taken foot. At some point he got cold feet, relaxed restrictions and now it's starting to pop up in bigger and bigger numbers, but we had the benefit of at least putting the brakes on it for awhile.
Also Anchorages (The largest city) Mayor berkowitz, is keeping a decent hunker down mandate going, despite very little support from the state gov. Now, idiots don't seem to be following it too closely (they were conga lining at the library for...reasons) but theres still some effort. And of course our mayor is a Dem.
I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
In The Wordy Shipmates, Sarah Vowell contrasts modern protestantism with the version the Puritans practiced by pointing out that "the Bible belt" would be more accurately called "the personal relationship with Jesus Christ Belt."
The easier title is “Rebranded Segregationists”
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I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
In The Wordy Shipmates, Sarah Vowell contrasts modern protestantism with the version the Puritans practiced by pointing out that "the Bible belt" would be more accurately called "the personal relationship with Jesus Christ Belt."
Everyone overlooks that a big chunk of early American culture was created by people who got kicked out of England for thinking Cromwell wasn't enough of an asshole.
I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
Yeah, it's like a whole other weird fucking world.
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I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
Yeah, it's like a whole other weird fucking world.
Don't get me wrong, Catholicism is weird too it just didn't feel that way to me because I grew up in it. It took 50 years for Leah Remini to realize Scientology was weird because she grew up in it.
What I guess I was getting at is Catholic Republicans tend to think all other Christians share their basic values so are comfortable voting with the religious right but if they actually knew anything about Evangelicals they'd probably feel a lot differently about them as candidates.
Evangelical is a broad spectrum, I have been in evangelical churches that seemed like just rebranded presbyterians and I’ve been in ones where I wouldn’t have been surprised if someone walked out with a cage full of snakes.
Evangelical is a broad spectrum, I have been in evangelical churches that seemed like just rebranded presbyterians and I’ve been in ones where I wouldn’t have been surprised if someone walked out with a cage full of snakes.
The differences can be within the same denomination even. Northern city Methodist churches are really really different than rural southern Methodist churches.
I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
Yeah, it's like a whole other weird fucking world.
Don't get me wrong, Catholicism is weird too it just didn't feel that way to me because I grew up in it. It took 50 years for Leah Remini to realize Scientology was weird because she grew up in it.
What I guess I was getting at is Catholic Republicans tend to think all other Christians share their basic values so are comfortable voting with the religious right but if they actually knew anything about Evangelicals they'd probably feel a lot differently about them as candidates.
Catholics were #3 on the Klan's list, just behind Blacks and Jews. Which, in a weird way, makes the current contest ring some similar bells to 1928 as well as '32.
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Evangelical is a broad spectrum, I have been in evangelical churches that seemed like just rebranded presbyterians and I’ve been in ones where I wouldn’t have been surprised if someone walked out with a cage full of snakes.
The differences can be within the same denomination even. Northern city Methodist churches are really really different than rural southern Methodist churches.
Shit, my hometown had both hippy-dippy Methodists and "I still don't cotton to dancing and card playing" Methodists. There's a lot of play there.
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My favorite anecdote to bring out regarding the relationship between Catholics and evangelicals is the time I had a legit argument with my southern Baptist deacon stepfather about whether Catholics were Christians (He thought they weren't).
I didn't meet my first Catholic until I had a coworker who was practicing, she didn't appreciate me calling her a papist. I didn't know any better, that's just what we called them.
I’ve heard various versions of that, ranging from “only protestants are Christians” to “only evangelicals are Christians” to “only charismatic evangelics are Christians”
*shrug*
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University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
Yeah, it's like a whole other weird fucking world.
Don't get me wrong, Catholicism is weird too it just didn't feel that way to me because I grew up in it. It took 50 years for Leah Remini to realize Scientology was weird because she grew up in it.
What I guess I was getting at is Catholic Republicans tend to think all other Christians share their basic values so are comfortable voting with the religious right but if they actually knew anything about Evangelicals they'd probably feel a lot differently about them as candidates.
Especially since most evangelicals think Catholics are at best not True Christians and at worst are the Whore of Babylon.
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Taking a shuttle to stand in line with all the people they would be standing in line on campus with plus others from the community. Yeah that makes sense.
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Looks like this was walked back pretty quickly after all the pushback
Yeah, the football will be outside line, got me wondering why we don't set up outdoor poling locations (weather permitting).
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Looks like this was walked back pretty quickly after all the pushback
Yeah, the football will be outside line, got me wondering why we don't set up outdoor poling locations (weather permitting).
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
Yeah, the football will be outside line, got me wondering why we don't set up outdoor poling locations (weather permitting).
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
Tents?
Tents.
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Yeah, the football will be outside line, got me wondering why we don't set up outdoor poling locations (weather permitting).
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
Yeah, the football will be outside line, got me wondering why we don't set up outdoor poling locations (weather permitting).
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
Georgia is not Midwest.
I assumed this was meant in regards to the election going on during a global pandemic, not the polling places at the University of Georgia in particular.
Yeah, the football will be outside line, got me wondering why we don't set up outdoor poling locations (weather permitting).
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Isn't driving others to the polls like a straight up felony in a bunch of states? Kinda surprised "governor" Kemp didn't jump on that bandwagon yet.
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Isn't driving others to the polls like a straight up felony in a bunch of states? Kinda surprised "governor" Kemp didn't jump on that bandwagon yet.
Not that I’m aware of. Many churches have “souls to the polls” voting drives where the help people get a ride so they can vote.
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Isn't driving others to the polls like a straight up felony in a bunch of states? Kinda surprised "governor" Kemp didn't jump on that bandwagon yet.
Not that I’m aware of. Many churches have “souls to the polls” voting drives where the help people get a ride so they can vote.
It's been pushed by the GOP in many places I think, not sure whether they got it through. Because turns out that kind of things mostly helps the poor.
University of Georgia has decided COVID makes it too dangerous for there to be an in-person voting location on campus. Not too dangerous for football, though!
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
Isn't driving others to the polls like a straight up felony in a bunch of states? Kinda surprised "governor" Kemp didn't jump on that bandwagon yet.
Anyone found guilty of hiring a vehicle to transport voters is subject to a misdemeanor charge, 90 days in prison and $500 fine. The law allegedly prevented Uber from offering discounted rides to Michigan polling places in 2018.
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I'm pretty sure Catholics + mainline protestant Christians combined still outnumber white evangelicals, or at least the numbers are pretty close. It's just that, even though they still lean Democratic as a combined group, neither Catholics nor mainline protestants are a monolith and there are plenty of Republican voters in their ranks.
My main takeaway is that like most religions white evangelicals aren't representative of a majority, they're just louder and more obnoxious.
In my experience growing up Catholic, most Catholics know fuck all about Evangelicals either. It wasn't until my brother started dating one when he was in high school that we learned just how different their religion is.
Yeah, it's like a whole other weird fucking world.
Don't get me wrong, Catholicism is weird too it just didn't feel that way to me because I grew up in it. It took 50 years for Leah Remini to realize Scientology was weird because she grew up in it.
What I guess I was getting at is Catholic Republicans tend to think all other Christians share their basic values so are comfortable voting with the religious right but if they actually knew anything about Evangelicals they'd probably feel a lot differently about them as candidates.
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This year is Michigan's first presidential election with no-reason absentee ballots. I predict we are going to have a fun time with that considering the number of voter suppression schemes it kneecaps.
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In The Wordy Shipmates, Sarah Vowell contrasts modern protestantism with the version the Puritans practiced by pointing out that "the Bible belt" would be more accurately called "the personal relationship with Jesus Christ Belt."
Also Anchorages (The largest city) Mayor berkowitz, is keeping a decent hunker down mandate going, despite very little support from the state gov. Now, idiots don't seem to be following it too closely (they were conga lining at the library for...reasons) but theres still some effort. And of course our mayor is a Dem.
The easier title is “Rebranded Segregationists”
Everyone overlooks that a big chunk of early American culture was created by people who got kicked out of England for thinking Cromwell wasn't enough of an asshole.
Yeah, it's like a whole other weird fucking world.
Don't get me wrong, Catholicism is weird too it just didn't feel that way to me because I grew up in it. It took 50 years for Leah Remini to realize Scientology was weird because she grew up in it.
What I guess I was getting at is Catholic Republicans tend to think all other Christians share their basic values so are comfortable voting with the religious right but if they actually knew anything about Evangelicals they'd probably feel a lot differently about them as candidates.
The differences can be within the same denomination even. Northern city Methodist churches are really really different than rural southern Methodist churches.
Catholics were #3 on the Klan's list, just behind Blacks and Jews. Which, in a weird way, makes the current contest ring some similar bells to 1928 as well as '32.
Shit, my hometown had both hippy-dippy Methodists and "I still don't cotton to dancing and card playing" Methodists. There's a lot of play there.
I didn't meet my first Catholic until I had a coworker who was practicing, she didn't appreciate me calling her a papist. I didn't know any better, that's just what we called them.
*shrug*
Especially since most evangelicals think Catholics are at best not True Christians and at worst are the Whore of Babylon.
Equally insulting "they can take a shuttle to the voting location" ahh yes the completely safe way of traveling during covid packing a shuttle bus with kids.
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Taking a shuttle to stand in line with all the people they would be standing in line on campus with plus others from the community. Yeah that makes sense.
Because this might surprise you, they don't want those people voting.
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Looks like this was walked back pretty quickly after all the pushback
Tweet is the UGA account saying oops, I guess people can vote in the stadium.
Weather can change pretty quickly in a day. Especially in the midwest. Especially in November. How much faith are you going to have in soggy ballots being read correctly?
Tweeter works for MSNBC
Stegman is the basketball arena, so indoors
Sanford is the stadium
Georgia is not Midwest.
Tents.
it's in the basketball arena either way.
"HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Pennsylvania Supreme Court sides with Democrats, extends mail-in ballot deadlines to three days after Election Day."
Gonna assume that still requires postmark on/before election day, and just allows delivery of said ballots after, to accomodate for mail movements?
Cause else I can see the Republicans having a shitfit (which they'll do regardless), but it being actually justified this one time.
I assumed this was meant in regards to the election going on during a global pandemic, not the polling places at the University of Georgia in particular.
Have you ever worked a farmer's market?
Pubs are gonna leverage this to encourage people to double-vote if it looks like it might be close. ESPECIALLY if you can drop off your mail in ballot
Isn't driving others to the polls like a straight up felony in a bunch of states? Kinda surprised "governor" Kemp didn't jump on that bandwagon yet.
Not that I’m aware of. Many churches have “souls to the polls” voting drives where the help people get a ride so they can vote.
It's been pushed by the GOP in many places I think, not sure whether they got it through. Because turns out that kind of things mostly helps the poor.
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Edit: I was wrong, see below
It is in Michigan.
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2019/11/democratic-pac-challenges-michigan-ban-on-transporting-voters-to-the-polls.html
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Voter suppression. It's pretty naked in the intent.
The "official" reason is to discourage bribery.
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