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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    lol @ thread title

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I do not know how stocks work.

    a bunch of rich people stand in a circle and give each other handies

    When I was a kid we went on a tour of Wall Street as part of a NYC trip (this was just before the days of online trading).

    I vividly remember a bunch of old white guys in multicolor jackets screaming at each other, jotting stuff down, and throwing the pieces of paper at a dude in the middle of a large circular net.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    People who work on Wall St are so incredibly self-assured of the obvious proof of their brilliance that comes with their paychecks but like

    I wonder what it would take to make them consider the possibility that they're all actually fuckin morons

    Nothing. Nothing would ever get them to consider that possibility.

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    I still don't know how the ending in Trading Places works.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    "Uhhhmmm actually Dr. Who is the best superhero because he never lifts a hand in anger against literal monsters." I smugly say wearing a Harry Potter scarf, stroking my DVD boxset of The West Wing because it's so Goddamn 2009 that it hurts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmnPs64K74

    The last one is the best (and from the best Doctor), just a casual neck-snapping and "come along!" to his companion.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    Ok, I'm heading to bed, but first a quick side note.

    With the virus, we use the grocery pick-up service at our grocery store where we order online and then pick it up already bagged and waiting for us to minimize contact.

    This weekend, the grocery store accidentally included an unopened angel food cake in our order. Not really worth trying to return an inexpensive cake during a pandemic, so we've still got it.

    Basically, what I'm saying is I've got this whole cake just sitting here, and I'd love to have an excuse to just sit back and celebrate by eating cake all day tomorrow.

    And it's not my birthday tomorrow.

    Anyways, g'night all.

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    ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    What if I idolize Dr. Who because he never does violence even against space Nazis and also it's 2009?

    God what if next season they go back to the Trump guy from the spider episode and he’s dying from disease and the Doctor spends all episode hemming and hawing and eventually decides to save him horf hack barf

    Manoeuvring an unrepentant villain into catching the disease they helped spread is absolutely something the Doctor would do.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Lars wrote: »
    I still don't know how the ending in Trading Places works.

    I thought I did but I just rewatched the scene and I have no idea.

    EDIT: Here we are.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/07/19/201430727/what-actually-happens-at-the-end-of-trading-places

    Undead Scottsman on
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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Petition to change the thread title to Covid 19 Has Trump if the sack of shit dies.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Insider information wasn't banned until 2010? What the absolute fuck?

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    in an ideal world i wouldn't want even people like donald trump to die

    we don't live in an ideal world, and dying as a direct result of his own willfully ignorant egotism is the closest thing to justice that he is ever going to get within even spitting distance of

    his death will relieve millions of people from the harm that he works to inflict on them every day. even taking into full account the tragedy of even a single person dying, his death will still be an overall net positive for the world, and there's nothing wrong with hoping for positive things

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2020
    It’s amazing how this man cannot think of literally anyone but himself and how people perceive him. He’s grappling a deadly virus and his first instinct is keep up appearances.

    Nothing will break his fantasy of the world being his personal story of greatness. He will die believing he is the protagonist, and everyone else is a villain or nameless extra.

    Sterica on
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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Essentially, there is nothing saying that the number of shares you own can't go below zero into the negative numbers.

    1. Borrow some stock you don't own
    2. Sell it to someone else
    3. Buy shares back at hopefully a reduced price, resetting your number of shares to zero
    4. Pocket the price difference

    Short selling is dangerous because if you own stock, the worst thing that could happen is it goes to zero and you just lose all the money invested. If you short stock, it can keep going up forever and you can lose infinity money from loan fees. It's basically like borrowing money from a loan shark and hoping the police bust up their criminal empire before you have to pay them back

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Isn't the whole stock market basically a hands-free "game" now where humans no longer make decisions compared to company-specific AI that can make hundreds of transactions at once rapid-fire

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    What if I idolize Dr. Who because he never does violence even against space Nazis and also it's 2009?
    You know that from 2005 to 2013 one of the Doctor's primary traits was that time he directly caused genocide right

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    The stock market is just the rich people feelings chart.

    When Trump became tested positive, they collectively realized they are mortal and can get sick too, explaining the futures drop on the weekend. Now he's trying to fool them into thinking he's Okay Actually™ and they think maybe they too will overcome getting sick.

    If he has a relapse it's going to be a glorious shitshow.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    2020 has shown that stock market basically qualifies as a religion.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Coinage wrote: »
    What if I idolize Dr. Who because he never does violence even against space Nazis and also it's 2009?
    You know that from 2005 to 2013 one of the Doctor's primary traits was that time he directly caused genocide right

    Hey

    Hey


    That was TWO genocides

    Technically against two groups who were mounting a cavalcade of horrors in their eternity war through all of time and space and implied to have left countless civilizations destroyed in their wake, but still

    Lanz on
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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    The only reason I don't want him to die from covid is he deserves to die in a cage instead. If covid wants to cause some crippling and irreparable damage tho, well have at it.

    Steam! Battlenet:Wisemantobes#1508
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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Insider information wasn't banned until 2010? What the absolute fuck?

    It specifically mentions gov't info, so I don't think its insider trading but Gov't related info

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Insider information wasn't banned until 2010? What the absolute fuck?

    only on futures trades based on info from the government, although I don't know that should really make you feel a lot better.
    Madican wrote: »
    Isn't the whole stock market basically a hands-free "game" now where humans no longer make decisions compared to company-specific AI that can make hundreds of transactions at once rapid-fire

    I mean... sort of? Tons of portfolio value is still traded on human intuition, and there are a lot of things that humans have to do to keep the algorithmically maintained portfolios running, including manually shutting everything tf down when one of their algorithms finds itself in a doom loop where everything it does causes enough change to trigger it doing the same thing again, so it's not like rogue AI making insane decisions, it's just stupid humans with massively overinflated senses of their abilities making insane decisions. In fact describing it as "AI" is kind of a huge stretch in most cases.

    Again, not really sure that this is meant to be reassuring.

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    the first thing i thought when i heard the news:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-GaXa8tSBE

    i don't wish death on anyone, but if you are a terrible person and die as a result of your own terrible actions, i'm not gonna be too upset

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    The stock market is just the rich people feelings chart.

    When Trump became tested positive, they collectively realized they are mortal and can get sick too, explaining the futures drop on the weekend. Now he's trying to fool them into thinking he's Okay Actually™ and they think maybe they too will overcome getting sick.

    If he has a relapse it's going to be a glorious shitshow.

    Could be that but we have to deal with the fact that its also completely up to interpretation. The damn thing goes up and down a lot. It could be a response to Trump but it could be nothing or something else we don't even know about.
    The only reason I don't want him to die from covid is he deserves to die in a cage instead. If covid wants to cause some crippling and irreparable damage tho, well have at it.

    But he probably isn't and every moment he lives is more time for him to do meaningful damage to the people of this country.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    The only reason I don't want him to die from covid is he deserves to die in a cage instead. If covid wants to cause some crippling and irreparable damage tho, well have at it.

    Nobody is going to put him in a cage though, so let corona do its thing.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    You have a much more optimistic outlook about the world than I do if you think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Donald Trump ever goes to prison

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    You have a much more optimistic outlook about the world than I do if you think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Donald Trump ever goes to prison

    Like, if Biden wins and Trump survives: I am fully expecting Biden will, completely unprompted by the right, pardon any federal crimes Trump is found to have committed because he believes this will give him magic Political Capital beans which he can trade to McConnel for bipartisanship hugs.

    I guess there is a slim chance Trump goes to state prison on state charges in NY but I'm not holding my breath on that either.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    We already have Obama as precedent that the former president will not be held responsible for their crimes.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Non-violence in sci-fi TV morality episodes isn't centrism, it's optimism. Most problems in real life can be solved without violence. The West Wing's cursed neoliberalism is an entirely separate thing.

    Coinage on
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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    I'm so sick of people being so far up their own ass about realizing that stocks are feelings based money. Find a way to convert your totally original viewpoints on a rigged global financial scheme to money us paesents can use.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    There...isn't one?

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    I still don't know how the ending in Trading Places works.

    There is literally an episode of an economy podcast that explains it. I unironically love Planet Money. It is an NPR podcast about Economics that I happily listen to two or three times a week.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    You see, the gorilla thought that the man in the gorilla suit was another gorilla.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    #pipe wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    I still don't know how the ending in Trading Places works.

    There is literally an episode of an economy podcast that explains it. I unironically love Planet Money. It is an NPR podcast about Economics that I happily listen to two or three times a week.

    I’m reading this and while I understand that this is a movie, a system that allows even these basic functions to happen, divorced from the material reality of labor, is goddamn nightmares

    It feels like goddamn horse betting, but with other people’s work

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    I still don't know how the ending in Trading Places works.

    There is literally an episode of an economy podcast that explains it. I unironically love Planet Money. It is an NPR podcast about Economics that I happily listen to two or three times a week.

    I’m reading this and while I understand that this is a movie, a system that allows even these basic functions to happen, divorced from the material reality of labor, is goddamn nightmares

    It feels like goddamn horse betting, but with other people’s work

    Find a better method of crowdfunding that works on a grand scale, or find an alternative to crowdfunding

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I think it is just horse betting, the actual commodities don't go anywhere

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
    The only reason I don't want him to die from covid is he deserves to die in a cage instead. If covid wants to cause some crippling and irreparable damage tho, well have at it.

    Nobody is going to put him in a cage though, so let corona do its thing.

    Oh ya definitely gonna take what I can get, just saying that's my only reason to not want him dead, I have no other reasons

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The only thing about it that I didn't know is that that shit was legal at the time they made that movie.

    Hot damn.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular

    rich people are dumb

    anyways I've always loved Chumbawamba's last EP
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3-PjACGcVk

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