Uh, don't you test positive for COVID for like months after an infection? You aren't really contagious but that markers are still there?
Only on antibody tests. PCRs tests no
You can test PCR positive for a long time after an infection, and you can be taken off isolation precautions before testing RT-PCR negative as well, depending on hospital protocol
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Trump has apparently asked for a schedule that has him on the road every day up til the 3rd.
That would halfway kill an old man without covid. And it will definitely kill many Americans, most of them his voters.
This is the problem with Trump having contracted covid
Well, I mean, one of many, but
Now Trump doesn't give the tiniest fuck about covid. He got it, it wasn't a serious case, and now he doesn't have to worry about getting it again.
So the tiny iota of caring about covid that Trump possessed is now gone. Rallies everyday, because they feed his ego, and if that kills rally attendees then who gives a fuck. And if the white house is a constant covid hotspot than who cares.
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Trump has apparently asked for a schedule that has him on the road every day up til the 3rd.
That would halfway kill an old man without covid. And it will definitely kill many Americans, most of them his voters.
This is the problem with Trump having contracted covid
Well, I mean, one of many, but
Now Trump doesn't give the tiniest fuck about covid. He got it, it wasn't a serious case, and now he doesn't have to worry about getting it again.
So the tiny iota of caring about covid that Trump possessed is now gone. Rallies everyday, because they feed his ego, and if that kills rally attendees then who gives a fuck. And if the white house is a constant covid hotspot than who cares.
Not that I want people to be harmed in any way by a communicable disease, but the people who choose to go to these stupid rallies (which they can easily see on TV, since the media can't help but broadcast them) are going there of their own free will. No one is holding a gun to their head and saying, "Go to this place where a large group of people will all be very close to each other for an hour or two while someone *who had Covid recently* yells nonsense at you, all while spraying you with his spittle.
It's the easiest choice in the world, even if you're a fan of his, to say, "No, this is silly. I should stay home." It's like reading a choose your own adventure book where you literally make the most safe and obvious choice and they're just utterly refusing to do any of that. That's on them.
The people I actually feel sorry for are the people that they come into contact with later who didn't go to the rally and now might get something from the dummy that did. But the people who actually go and then get sick? I have no sympathy for that kind of decision making.
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imo those ballots in the picture are still clearly legible and should be processed unless there's some hidden reason it'd be infeasible or cost-prohibitive to do so
imo those ballots in the picture are still clearly legible and should be processed unless there's some hidden reason it'd be infeasible or cost-prohibitive to do so
Here is the registrar of voters from that county clearing that up
To clarify, these ballots were brought in by voters who surrendered their ballots and received new ones and voted their choices. If a damaged ballot is cast, it would be remade with several teams reviewing and confirming the voter intent before it would be counted
i can see where someone well-meaning arrives at "well there's a pandemic going on i should disinfect this ballot because it's going to go to someone else"
Yeah who would have been able to predict trump and GOP saying “there’s rampant voter fraud by the dems!” would be a signal to their supporters that since the dems are doing it you can too. Trump and the GOP are breaking democracy in so many ways
Well it's the same play they came up with after #metoo started, where they tried repeatedly to pin bogus sex harassment charges on innocent people in an attempt to show how easily such a thing could be abused (and with one exception it never worked). Now it's "see how easy it is for us to commit vote fraud? that's why mail in ballots are bad!"
I think the play for this one was to have piles of 'uncounted' Trump votes in a state they were never going to win to reveal after the election.
Problem with that is, it only works if you advertise the drop box far and wide so that people actually come by and drop their ballots in it. And then the election authorities get wind of it and shut it down as we see above.
edit: and if one really wanted to carry out a scheme like yours, it would be far better to organize a secret facebook/whatever group where people would fill out their ballots and then just never hand them in. Collect them in a bag, toss it in a ditch sometime after the 3rd, then conveniently summon the police to "find" it later.
Surely this fantasy overhaul our entire elected government shit has little to do with 2020. None of the candidates are running on it.
To bring it back on topic, even if REapportionment isn't a real issue this election, apportionment kinda is. If we can win back some state legislatures, the 2021 redistricting can maybe undo some of the fuckery that they were able to accomplish with the 2010 tea party wave. Case A in why local votes are still pretty freaking important
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I think if Republicans are opposed to giving DC and PR statehood on the grounds of “We don’t need more states,” I’m more than happy to compromise by combining the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. Make ‘em two states, if you want.
But don’t tell me those five empty states full of buffalo and potato farms deserve more representation than Puerto Rico, which is our 29th most populous state territory.
Following up on this with some population math:
Puerto Rico: 3.2 million
High Plains States (The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho): 5 million
Great Plains States (Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska): 12 million
If the entire Plains corridor from Oklahoma to Idaho was combined into a single megastate (and it really should be, it’s a goddamn wasteland), it would still only be the fifth most populous state.
Washington DC also has relatively the same population as the three least-populous states.
those numbers can't be right, obvious fraud, CONSPIRACY etc etc.
it simply can't be that Trump and his cronies are so awful (and dangerous) that lots and lots of people want very much to get rid of them.
:P
imo those ballots in the picture are still clearly legible and should be processed unless there's some hidden reason it'd be infeasible or cost-prohibitive to do so
Not counting those is utter bullshit. A computer can’t read it but a human can 100% clearly see the indicated preference and should be able to manually add it the totals.
In the UK they hand count all ballots and the apocryphal story is that if you wrote ‘not this bastard’ next to single candidate with no other marks then it would count as a vote for them due to being a clear mark next to a specific candidate.
I think if Republicans are opposed to giving DC and PR statehood on the grounds of “We don’t need more states,” I’m more than happy to compromise by combining the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. Make ‘em two states, if you want.
But don’t tell me those five empty states full of buffalo and potato farms deserve more representation than Puerto Rico, which is our 29th most populous state territory.
Following up on this with some population math:
Puerto Rico: 3.2 million
High Plains States (The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho): 5 million
Great Plains States (Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska): 12 million
If the entire Plains corridor from Oklahoma to Idaho was combined into a single megastate (and it really should be, it’s a goddamn wasteland), it would still only be the fifth most populous state.
Washington DC also has relatively the same population as the three least-populous states.
Good to know I'm either a buffalo or a potato farmer.
But setting aside that what you're proposing isn't even an option I can't imagine why an island or the literal capital of the country would have a much higher population density than a region where the vast majority, and I mean an absurdly large vast majority, is dedicated to farming/ranching.
You should really let this one go.
Please note because I love you so I didn't even tell you to go fuck yourself for describing where I live as "a goddamn wasteland" or even politely suggest you be unwilfully be dropped off in the geographical center of the Sahara so you can see what a goddamned wasteland actually is.
So what's the Republican play with these? Gather a bunch of ballots and then not turn them in, or something? (My guess is that Democrats are more likely to want to vote by mail than Republicans.)
imo those ballots in the picture are still clearly legible and should be processed unless there's some hidden reason it'd be infeasible or cost-prohibitive to do so
Not counting those is utter bullshit. A computer can’t read it but a human can 100% clearly see the indicated preference and should be able to manually add it the totals.
In the UK they hand count all ballots and the apocryphal story is that if you wrote ‘not this bastard’ next to single candidate with no other marks then it would count as a vote for them due to being a clear mark next to a specific candidate.
Not this bastard would be rejected as the intent would be unclear, plenty of examples of ballots like that being rejected (For example at the Scottish indy ref people who wrote "No" in the No box had their ballots rejected as unclear (but those who wrote Yes in the Yes box were accepted as clear intent))
However writing "Wank" next to every candidate bar one against which you write "Good Guy" has been accepted as a ballot of clear intent and accepted.
I changed my plan from voting early via mail-in ballot that I actually drop off at the federal courthouse in the drop box to voting early in person specifically because I will be 100% unsurprised when I see stories about someone dumping lighter fluid into a drop box and then tossing a match in at 3am.
My guess is to catch and burn and ballots put in since "only democrat frauds vote by mail" and they are planning to go to the polls and vote while coughing on each other like real american heroes.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I think if Republicans are opposed to giving DC and PR statehood on the grounds of “We don’t need more states,” I’m more than happy to compromise by combining the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. Make ‘em two states, if you want.
But don’t tell me those five empty states full of buffalo and potato farms deserve more representation than Puerto Rico, which is our 29th most populous state territory.
Following up on this with some population math:
Puerto Rico: 3.2 million
High Plains States (The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho): 5 million
Great Plains States (Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska): 12 million
If the entire Plains corridor from Oklahoma to Idaho was combined into a single megastate (and it really should be, it’s a goddamn wasteland), it would still only be the fifth most populous state.
Washington DC also has relatively the same population as the three least-populous states.
Good to know I'm either a buffalo or a potato farmer.
But setting aside that what you're proposing isn't even an option I can't imagine why an island or the literal capital of the country would have a much higher population density than a region where the vast majority, and I mean an absurdly large vast majority, is dedicated to farming/ranching.
You should really let this one go.
Please note because I love you so I didn't even tell you to go fuck yourself for describing where I live as "a goddamn wasteland" or even politely suggest you be unwilfully be dropped off in the geographical center of the Sahara so you can see what a goddamned wasteland actually is.
I’ve lived in West Texas, I’m intimately familiar with wastelands.
The point isn’t “lol the Plains suck,” the point is the plains states are vastly, shamefully over-represented in national politics, not just in terms of population (though that’s the most important consideration) but also in terms of GDP and tax burden.
As well, I don’t think combining the plains states is politically feasible or even really something people are talking about seriously, I’m merely pointing out that, in light of the deluge of right-wing rhetoric we’re seeing against efforts to rebalance voting disparity, there’s a huge gulf between those taking points and reality.
Ok but West Texas is not in any way shape or form representative of much of anything above Texas.
I don't disagree with you that the plains states are over represented at all. I do feel that to a certain degree that's necessary. For example I think plenty of more populous states in the southwest would be very happy to pump the aquifers under the plains states to themselves at which point yes, the plains would actually become wastelands. I mean Ideally that wouldn't happen because everyone involved would recognize how terrible of an idea that would be for a whole bunch of reasons but I'm not confident it would matter.
This of course ignores that the fracking industry is more than happy to potentially shit in and all over said aquifers but apparently that's ok because lol oil >_<
Also I'm offended personally that Puerto Rico and especially D.C. aren't already states. It's more complicated than that for everything but D.C. but the fact that my country has "territories" that don't have representation has been a grievance of mine since I realized the implications of it (which admittedly was far too late in life because wow does US History gloss over the territories).
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Damnit now I want you to fly down to TX so that I can take a road trip there to meet up with you so we can drive around to all of the best BBQ spots and then drive up through the plains states so you can see what they're actually like. Then we can then spend a multi-day train ride back to Seattle getting boozy :P
Also I'm offended personally that Puerto Rico and especially D.C. aren't already states. It's more complicated than that for everything but D.C. but the fact that my country has "territories" that don't have representation has been a grievance of mine since I realized the implications of it (which admittedly was far too late in life because wow does US History gloss over the territories).
look, it was the 1800s and all the cool countries were doing it...
Also I'm offended personally that Puerto Rico and especially D.C. aren't already states. It's more complicated than that for everything but D.C. but the fact that my country has "territories" that don't have representation has been a grievance of mine since I realized the implications of it (which admittedly was far too late in life because wow does US History gloss over the territories).
look, it was the 1800s and all the cool countries were doing it...
It's entirely possible this is a more comprehensive coverage of the topic than I received in my regular US History class.
I voted! Gonna drop it in the mailbox shortly; hopefully 22 days is enough of a lead for a ballot to go across town.
Trying to find any information on candidates on the ridiculously down-ballot stuff (lookin' at you, Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisors) still remains the bane of my existence, though.
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I honestly don't know if this goes in the election thread or the Covid-19 thread.
I also don't know if this is just Eric being dumb or if this is how they're going to get around not having a vaccine for election day, just say that you do safe in the knowledge that the media will both-sides it.
Yes, yes, I know, porque no los dos.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I also don't know if this is just Eric being dumb or if this is how they're going to get around not having a vaccine for election day, just say that you do safe in the knowledge that the media will both-sides it.
Yes, yes, I know, porque no los dos.
Let me break down how completely idiotic this is:
- as far as anyone knows, a proven vaccine does not yet exist
- getting a vaccine while you are still ill is dangerous and prohibited by most medical guidelines
- getting a vaccine after you’ve already gotten the illness is completely pointless
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I also don't know if this is just Eric being dumb or if this is how they're going to get around not having a vaccine for election day, just say that you do safe in the knowledge that the media will both-sides it.
Yes, yes, I know, porque no los dos.
Let me break down how completely idiotic this is:
- as far as anyone knows, a proven vaccine does not yet exist
- getting a vaccine while you are still ill is dangerous and prohibited by most medical guidelines
- getting a vaccine after you’ve already gotten the illness is completely pointless
In other words, perfectly in line with the Trump family MO.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
I also don't know if this is just Eric being dumb or if this is how they're going to get around not having a vaccine for election day, just say that you do safe in the knowledge that the media will both-sides it.
If Trump recovers, I'm willing to bet they will claim he bravely human tested the "cure" himself and therefore it's safe to authorise for the general public.
(Despite the fact that the vaccine should obviously prevent you getting covid in the first place)
Edit: Hey, I had an old draft up in theres.
All I need is for them to "authorise" the vaccine for the public, and then I can hand in my completed bingo.
(I could technically claim Trump touting Regeneron and claiming he wants everyone to have it, but I specifically used the word "vaccine")
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God, I just watched two YouTube commercials for Trump and they are so pathetic
#1 - Joe Biden uses a teleprompter! Can we really trust someone that doesn’t constantly shit out of their mouth and never stops?
My favorite is "Biden MALFUNCTIONS" and it's an outtake from an online thing he apparently did where the tech keeps fucking up and he becomes minimally frustrated.
There's also just so many that say "Biden supports this thing and I have a scary voice," but... Like... That's a REALLY GOOD thing?
I’m not American so I never know when someone is being serious with this.
Please tell me that’s hyperbole and not something a political party is shitting out because they know someone will actually believe it.
nah there are some truly ridiculous ads out right now
I've been clicking on the ones from the trump campaign specifically (not PACS) cause they cost them more money when they get clicked on
I'm sure my google analytics is super confused now though
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You can test PCR positive for a long time after an infection, and you can be taken off isolation precautions before testing RT-PCR negative as well, depending on hospital protocol
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That said he’s still very likely to test positive on a PCR test right now. The man is probably still actively shedding virus
So pathetic.
PSA: don't disinfect your ballot.
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This is the problem with Trump having contracted covid
Well, I mean, one of many, but
Now Trump doesn't give the tiniest fuck about covid. He got it, it wasn't a serious case, and now he doesn't have to worry about getting it again.
So the tiny iota of caring about covid that Trump possessed is now gone. Rallies everyday, because they feed his ego, and if that kills rally attendees then who gives a fuck. And if the white house is a constant covid hotspot than who cares.
...maybe some folks shouldn’t vote.
Not that I want people to be harmed in any way by a communicable disease, but the people who choose to go to these stupid rallies (which they can easily see on TV, since the media can't help but broadcast them) are going there of their own free will. No one is holding a gun to their head and saying, "Go to this place where a large group of people will all be very close to each other for an hour or two while someone *who had Covid recently* yells nonsense at you, all while spraying you with his spittle.
It's the easiest choice in the world, even if you're a fan of his, to say, "No, this is silly. I should stay home." It's like reading a choose your own adventure book where you literally make the most safe and obvious choice and they're just utterly refusing to do any of that. That's on them.
The people I actually feel sorry for are the people that they come into contact with later who didn't go to the rally and now might get something from the dummy that did. But the people who actually go and then get sick? I have no sympathy for that kind of decision making.
imo those ballots in the picture are still clearly legible and should be processed unless there's some hidden reason it'd be infeasible or cost-prohibitive to do so
Here is the registrar of voters from that county clearing that up
i cannot in my heart condemn them
I'm so surprised, guys.
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/10/11/unofficial-ballot-drop-boxes-popping-up-throughout-the-state-worry-elections-officials/
Problem with that is, it only works if you advertise the drop box far and wide so that people actually come by and drop their ballots in it. And then the election authorities get wind of it and shut it down as we see above.
edit: and if one really wanted to carry out a scheme like yours, it would be far better to organize a secret facebook/whatever group where people would fill out their ballots and then just never hand them in. Collect them in a bag, toss it in a ditch sometime after the 3rd, then conveniently summon the police to "find" it later.
To bring it back on topic, even if REapportionment isn't a real issue this election, apportionment kinda is. If we can win back some state legislatures, the 2021 redistricting can maybe undo some of the fuckery that they were able to accomplish with the 2010 tea party wave. Case A in why local votes are still pretty freaking important
Following up on this with some population math:
Puerto Rico: 3.2 million
High Plains States (The Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho): 5 million
Great Plains States (Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska): 12 million
If the entire Plains corridor from Oklahoma to Idaho was combined into a single megastate (and it really should be, it’s a goddamn wasteland), it would still only be the fifth most populous state.
Washington DC also has relatively the same population as the three least-populous states.
In 2016, it was 13,000
The tracker isn't a blue check, but they've been around for a while.
it simply can't be that Trump and his cronies are so awful (and dangerous) that lots and lots of people want very much to get rid of them.
:P
Not counting those is utter bullshit. A computer can’t read it but a human can 100% clearly see the indicated preference and should be able to manually add it the totals.
In the UK they hand count all ballots and the apocryphal story is that if you wrote ‘not this bastard’ next to single candidate with no other marks then it would count as a vote for them due to being a clear mark next to a specific candidate.
Good to know I'm either a buffalo or a potato farmer.
But setting aside that what you're proposing isn't even an option I can't imagine why an island or the literal capital of the country would have a much higher population density than a region where the vast majority, and I mean an absurdly large vast majority, is dedicated to farming/ranching.
You should really let this one go.
Please note because I love you so I didn't even tell you to go fuck yourself for describing where I live as "a goddamn wasteland" or even politely suggest you be unwilfully be dropped off in the geographical center of the Sahara so you can see what a goddamned wasteland actually is.
So what's the Republican play with these? Gather a bunch of ballots and then not turn them in, or something? (My guess is that Democrats are more likely to want to vote by mail than Republicans.)
Not this bastard would be rejected as the intent would be unclear, plenty of examples of ballots like that being rejected (For example at the Scottish indy ref people who wrote "No" in the No box had their ballots rejected as unclear (but those who wrote Yes in the Yes box were accepted as clear intent))
However writing "Wank" next to every candidate bar one against which you write "Good Guy" has been accepted as a ballot of clear intent and accepted.
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I’ve lived in West Texas, I’m intimately familiar with wastelands.
The point isn’t “lol the Plains suck,” the point is the plains states are vastly, shamefully over-represented in national politics, not just in terms of population (though that’s the most important consideration) but also in terms of GDP and tax burden.
As well, I don’t think combining the plains states is politically feasible or even really something people are talking about seriously, I’m merely pointing out that, in light of the deluge of right-wing rhetoric we’re seeing against efforts to rebalance voting disparity, there’s a huge gulf between those taking points and reality.
I apologize if I offended you or anyone else.
I don't disagree with you that the plains states are over represented at all. I do feel that to a certain degree that's necessary. For example I think plenty of more populous states in the southwest would be very happy to pump the aquifers under the plains states to themselves at which point yes, the plains would actually become wastelands. I mean Ideally that wouldn't happen because everyone involved would recognize how terrible of an idea that would be for a whole bunch of reasons but I'm not confident it would matter.
This of course ignores that the fracking industry is more than happy to potentially shit in and all over said aquifers but apparently that's ok because lol oil >_<
Also I'm offended personally that Puerto Rico and especially D.C. aren't already states. It's more complicated than that for everything but D.C. but the fact that my country has "territories" that don't have representation has been a grievance of mine since I realized the implications of it (which admittedly was far too late in life because wow does US History gloss over the territories).
*edit*
Damnit now I want you to fly down to TX so that I can take a road trip there to meet up with you so we can drive around to all of the best BBQ spots and then drive up through the plains states so you can see what they're actually like. Then we can then spend a multi-day train ride back to Seattle getting boozy :P
look, it was the 1800s and all the cool countries were doing it...
It's entirely possible this is a more comprehensive coverage of the topic than I received in my regular US History class.
Trying to find any information on candidates on the ridiculously down-ballot stuff (lookin' at you, Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisors) still remains the bane of my existence, though.
Eric Trump claims father received Covid-19 vaccine
I also don't know if this is just Eric being dumb or if this is how they're going to get around not having a vaccine for election day, just say that you do safe in the knowledge that the media will both-sides it.
Yes, yes, I know, porque no los dos.
Let me break down how completely idiotic this is:
- as far as anyone knows, a proven vaccine does not yet exist
- getting a vaccine while you are still ill is dangerous and prohibited by most medical guidelines
- getting a vaccine after you’ve already gotten the illness is completely pointless
In other words, perfectly in line with the Trump family MO.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/42935420#Comment_42935420 All I need is for them to "authorise" the vaccine for the public, and then I can hand in my completed bingo.
(I could technically claim Trump touting Regeneron and claiming he wants everyone to have it, but I specifically used the word "vaccine")
#1 - Joe Biden uses a teleprompter! Can we really trust someone that doesn’t constantly shit out of their mouth and never stops?
#2 - Biden/Harris wants to “cancel“ us! What’s next? Canceling free speech? Canceling guns? Canceling God??
My favorite is "Biden MALFUNCTIONS" and it's an outtake from an online thing he apparently did where the tech keeps fucking up and he becomes minimally frustrated.
There's also just so many that say "Biden supports this thing and I have a scary voice," but... Like... That's a REALLY GOOD thing?
I’m not American so I never know when someone is being serious with this.
Please tell me that’s hyperbole and not something a political party is shitting out because they know someone will actually believe it.
So its not redistricting in general that is bad, "just" gerrymandering.
nah there are some truly ridiculous ads out right now
I've been clicking on the ones from the trump campaign specifically (not PACS) cause they cost them more money when they get clicked on
I'm sure my google analytics is super confused now though