Like, the existence of the Daily Show hasn't prevented the success of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.
Possibly the reverse. I never watch TDS anymore, because John Oliver gives me that kind of fix.
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Mr Holkins has said "The press...can go fuck the devil in hell" in his companion-post to the comic strip titled "Real Shit" that is the principal subject of this forum thread. That post by Mr Holkins is found on the main Penny Arcade website under their banner of News.
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So it is ironic for Mr Holkins to say "The press...can go fuck the devil in hell" since he himself is a member of the press.
Penny Arcade is not often a primary source for breaking news, but Mr Holkins reports on the current events of the electronic gaming world and he also shares his cogent and valuable commentary on those events. And he does engage in proactive journalism from time to time, when the news specialists are missing the mark and he seeks the substantial heart of a story.
Electronic games are the field of competition for a mass-marketed sport which has worldwide popularity—and so Mr Holkins, as a reporter whose beat includes these esports, is a member* of the sports press (he is a member of its subset the esports press, at the very least).
Members of the press occasionally decry the press, and this is good, for they should engage in the constructive criticism of their peers. When they do it with a seeming lack of awareness I am inspired to speak.
The sports press is not "routinely abusive to the athletes." What evidence would move one to reach such a conclusion?
*That conceptual role (of member of the sport press) has never-before intruded into the perpetual mental tableau constructed by my obsessive focus upon the man and his deeds, yet it would be difficult to effectively argue that the occupation deserves any less of a place on Mr Holkins's long and distinguished CV than the lips of a humble fan randomly selected from the population of Penny Arcade devotees—and where might a fan, in theory, sign up to participate in such a process of selection one wonders—derserve to have a place (as they may be placed) upon another part of Mr Holkins's personality or personhood or self, that part in its own self being nary less long nor any less distinguishable distinguished than the aforesaid CV, long may it wave—or dangle—or It ain't danglin' it's draggin' oh why'm I e'er entangled in such happenin'?
Mike and Jerry aren't a member of the press thats absolutely ridiculous. Just because they have a "news" post doesn't make them a reporter like good lord that's a "you want to change society yet you remain a part of society" level of discourse.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
They used to literally run a gaming journalism site. The Penny Arcade Report.
I'm not supporting this person's argument, I'm just saying I think he's right about 1 point. The whole point of the PAR was to be better than most gaming press, but it was still gaming press.
They used to literally run a gaming journalism site. The Penny Arcade Report.
I'm not supporting this person's argument, I'm just saying I think he's right about 1 point. The whole point of the PAR was to be better than most gaming press, but it was still gaming press.
Yeah, they owned a gaming press site. But Jerry didn't write for it. He's a member of the press as much as Jeff Bezos is.
They used to literally run a gaming journalism site. The Penny Arcade Report.
I'm not supporting this person's argument, I'm just saying I think he's right about 1 point. The whole point of the PAR was to be better than most gaming press, but it was still gaming press.
Yeah, they owned a gaming press site. But Jerry didn't write for it. He's a member of the press as much as Jeff Bezos is.
I think the main difference between what Jerry does in his news posts and "The gaming press" is he runs his company (I think) and can kinda do whatever he wants.
Gives opinions on video games
Makes recommendations
Criticizes events in the industry
To me he's a game journalist, amongst the many other hats he wears.
They used to literally run a gaming journalism site. The Penny Arcade Report.
I'm not supporting this person's argument, I'm just saying I think he's right about 1 point. The whole point of the PAR was to be better than most gaming press, but it was still gaming press.
Yeah, they owned a gaming press site. But Jerry didn't write for it. He's a member of the press as much as Jeff Bezos is.
I think the main difference between what Jerry does in his news posts and "The gaming press" is he runs his company (I think) and can kinda do whatever he wants.
Gives opinions on video games
Makes recommendations
Criticizes events in the industry
To me he's a game journalist, amongst the many other hats he wears.
Having a blog doesn't make you a journalist. Otherwise, the internet made everybody journalists, and you can throw that word in the garbage bin. But let's not, because it's useful to make the distinction between someone who writes for the New York Times vs some Instagram influencer.
Whether or not Jerry sees himself as part of "the press" I'm not even sure he'd disagree about needing to "fuck the devil in hell. "
Seems pretty down on himself sometimes.
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A college kid responding to losing in the March Madness tournament:
Post game press conferences are asinine and potentially traumatic. If players don't want to do them, they shouldn't. The ones who feel comfortable doing them will get more airtime. And maybe the press will figure out a better, less confrontational way to approach the players won't take their questions
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Possibly the reverse. I never watch TDS anymore, because John Oliver gives me that kind of fix.
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So it is ironic for Mr Holkins to say "The press...can go fuck the devil in hell" since he himself is a member of the press.
Penny Arcade is not often a primary source for breaking news, but Mr Holkins reports on the current events of the electronic gaming world and he also shares his cogent and valuable commentary on those events. And he does engage in proactive journalism from time to time, when the news specialists are missing the mark and he seeks the substantial heart of a story.
Electronic games are the field of competition for a mass-marketed sport which has worldwide popularity—and so Mr Holkins, as a reporter whose beat includes these esports, is a member* of the sports press (he is a member of its subset the esports press, at the very least).
Members of the press occasionally decry the press, and this is good, for they should engage in the constructive criticism of their peers. When they do it with a seeming lack of awareness I am inspired to speak.
The sports press is not "routinely abusive to the athletes." What evidence would move one to reach such a conclusion?
*That conceptual role (of member of the sport press) has never-before intruded into the perpetual mental tableau constructed by my obsessive focus upon the man and his deeds, yet it would be difficult to effectively argue that the occupation deserves any less of a place on Mr Holkins's long and distinguished CV than the lips of a humble fan randomly selected from the population of Penny Arcade devotees—and where might a fan, in theory, sign up to participate in such a process of selection one wonders—derserve to have a place (as they may be placed) upon another part of Mr Holkins's personality or personhood or self, that part in its own self being nary less long nor any less distinguishable distinguished than the aforesaid CV, long may it wave—or dangle—or It ain't danglin' it's draggin' oh why'm I e'er entangled in such happenin'?
Couldn't agree more with Jerry!
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I'm not supporting this person's argument, I'm just saying I think he's right about 1 point. The whole point of the PAR was to be better than most gaming press, but it was still gaming press.
Yeah, they owned a gaming press site. But Jerry didn't write for it. He's a member of the press as much as Jeff Bezos is.
- Gives opinions on video games
- Makes recommendations
- Criticizes events in the industry
To me he's a game journalist, amongst the many other hats he wears.Having a blog doesn't make you a journalist. Otherwise, the internet made everybody journalists, and you can throw that word in the garbage bin. But let's not, because it's useful to make the distinction between someone who writes for the New York Times vs some Instagram influencer.
The word you're looking for is "pundit".
Seems pretty down on himself sometimes.
Post game press conferences are asinine and potentially traumatic. If players don't want to do them, they shouldn't. The ones who feel comfortable doing them will get more airtime. And maybe the press will figure out a better, less confrontational way to approach the players won't take their questions
Yeah. I cant tell my boss, "nope, not going to travel to the customer to address their concerns because I'm an introvert."
If you jump in two pages into a thread without having read at least one of the following
* the rest of the thread
* the newspost
* the facts around the news topic
it will be pretty obvious to everyone else reading that you are a silly goose and not someone with a pertinent hot take.