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So I am currently playing Tales of Phantasia for the GBA and am enjoying it. I have already played Tales of Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss and still have Tales of Legendia in my backlog.
However the connection between Symphonia and Phantasy became appearent to me a while back:
So where does Abyss sit at since, I think there is no Mana Tree, its just about the Miasma and the ancient technology?
Is there an actual time line for the Tales of Series? And where does Tales of Legendia fit?
However the connection between Symphonia and Phantasy became appearent to me a while back:
Yggradsill is what Lyold (from Syomphina names the tree correct? And martel is in the tree still correct?
So where does Abyss sit at since, I think there is no Mana Tree, its just about the Miasma and the ancient technology?
Is there an actual time line for the Tales of Series? And where does Tales of Legendia fit?
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Generally, each game, like Final Fantasy titles, exists in its own independent world.
So is the connection between Phantasia and Symphonia the tree only? Or is there hints of other things as well?
As Vincent says, there's no connection story-wise between any of the Tales games except Phantasia->Symphonia and Destiny->Destiny2. However, there's a massive amount of shared things in all the games, like items, monsters, special attacks etc. Not to mention that every Tales game has practically the same storyline, with different details.
If you have a PSP, I hear Tales of Eternia is great. I have the original PSX version (a.k.a. Tales of Destiny II), but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet. The original Tales of Destiny, as well as Phantasia to be honest, were disappointments for me. In both of those games, the needlessly large dungeons combined with the high random enounter rate had my patience-o-meter operating at the redline.
EDIT: Yes, there are hints of other connections, but they're mostly inconsequential to the story line.
Will steal boyfriend's PSP for that (he bought a DS recently, so I doubt he'll miss it that much).
Oh, and as far as western releases go, you can't really beat Symphonia.
Tempest got poor reviews even in Japan. Also, Namco hates money and won't release the Tales games on the systems where their fanbase resides.
Very excellent game. I love the battle system.
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I'd agree, if not for the mediocre plot, shitty "system" (I did not like the skill modification stuff at all), incredibly slow overworld, and characters I didn't like one bit.
For me, it's definitely ToE > ToD > ToL (first half)> ToS > ToA > ToP (and the only reason Phantasia is last is that it's just too plain compared to the others, in terms of gameplay)
I'm still bitter we didn't get ToD ps2, ToD2 ps2 and ToR.
Abyss was a great game, but it just had way too many small things that irritated the living fuck out of me. I didn't mind Luke too much and Natalie was
Anyway, I think my personal ordering is Eternia, Symphonia, Legendia, Destiny, Phantasia. Not really a knock against Phantasia, but I came to it after Destiny and Eternia and it was so primitive and dated that it hurt. And Destiny and I have never gotten along because there are literally 10 hours of gameplay and about 8 dungeons before you fight the first boss of the game.
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Wow, you pretty much summed up my opinion of Abyss. The whole step-and-fetch-it phase of the game really turned me off. My theory is that guy who designed the dungeons quit the team after Symphonia.
My one complaint about Abyss is that the main villain really isn't evil enough. Give me Symphonia's bad guy, who actually acts like a total dick, especially near the end of the game, any day.
Tales of the Abyss was awesome incarnate though.
Jade was awesome though because he was Jade. His incantation for Indignation was also super bad-ass. Also Dist was cool but I have a man-crush on Liam O'Brien. Same with Johnny Yong Bosch.
I really liked Legendia through to the "end". But once the second half started, using all the same locations, with all the voice acting cut out, it just didn't feel worth it.
Legendia had so much potential. It had great music, good characters, high-quality voice acting. But they just forgot the gameplay. It's dumbed-down, like the FF Mystic Quest of the Tales series. It definitely had its moments, though:
That's where I'm stuck, at the character quests, the final one. I was disappointed that there was no voice acting for that part of the game except the ending animated scenes. The voice acting is OK. When the game "ends" half way through, it feels like I got ripped off reading text in dialogue boxes.
While I'm not crazy about the game itself, the music, on the other hand, was excellent.
The villain in Symphonia's gotta be one of my favourites in any RPG.
I'm at the part after:
Does it get better after that?
Not particularly, no.
Legendia had the power to be awesome, if they didn't skimp on the Character Quests. And yeah, the battle system was very stupid. I'm glad Odin Sphere did 2D sidescrolling battles right in its sted. And offensive magic really sucks in Legendia. The only worthwhile mage is Norma since she has the heal all spell. The rest of her spells and the other mages are not worth using.
Abyss was quite good since Luke was quite the opposite of a typical goody-two-shoes RPG hero. Not saying was some evil bastard or anything, but his "I don't care about anything" attitude was a nice change of pace. Second Jade being awesome, since he's Jade. Also, Free Run for the freakin' win.
Edit: Oh yeah, and you gotta love Luke using Mieu as a club to KO enemies. Pity he never can use that in battle.
Regal's awesome you should play him some day. For some reason the computer is much better at being Sheena than me.
Yeah, I experienced the same thing. The AI isn't much better than me as well when it comes to Sheena.
And I think I speak for the world when I say that there is no use for Colette, other than a reason to travel to some location to save her for the 50th time.
And yeah, I played through a decent amount of Phantasia, but it was just too much of a step back. I felt like I got enough exposure to understand the roots of the series I love, and that was all I was really going for.
Yes, if you enjoyed Symphonia, you will certainly enjoy Abyss. You might like it more or less than Symphonia, depending on what it was exactly that you liked about Symphonia, but you will definitely like it.
I personally like it a little less than Symphonia, because of the aforementioned lull in the middle of the game and the fact that there are generally smaller and fewer dungeons. But it does have a more refined battle system and more diverse and interesting cast of characters.
Yeah, Luke was awesome, at least until MAJOR SPOILERS happened and he became whiny and emo.
And not emo in the usual "I am legitimately sad over legitimately sad things" sense, but in the "every other line is 'I should have died' or 'I wish I was never born'" sense.
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The battle system is crap, plain and simple. And I didn't like a single main character.
After Symphonia, this was like a huge kick in sack.