Vegeta managed to blow up a planet back when he got chumped by Yajirobe, something Zod has never been able to do ever. A fight between them would basically be Mr. Satan Vs Cell.
In ''Pottersville: The Further Adventures of Zod'', he was shown to have fearsome transformation powers:
Also, I don't know who the other guy is. Does he also transform into a bigfoot in bad movies?
If not, it's looking pretty bad for him right about now.
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We talking Snyderverse Zod, where he was sipping on that good yellow sun, getting stronger by the second, up to Superman level strength in a few minutes?
Does Vegeta know about his extremely vulnerable neck bones or not?
Vegeta is kind of a chump but he's more self aware and chilled these days. I think he's like, look man. I get it I've been there. Intergalactic invader, cursed with a really annoying heroic figure to constantly orbit. Let's have a talk.
Because he's a dangerously powerful buffoon really when you think about it and a terrible father to boot
He may be in the conversation when talking about fighting Superman in single combat but when it comes to strength of character comparison Goku doesn't even rate
Because he's a dangerously powerful buffoon really when you think about it and a terrible father to boot
He may be in the conversation when talking about fighting Superman in single combat but when it comes to strength of character comparison Goku doesn't even rate
He's self-interested, but comes out a hero because he hates it when his friends/family/home are killed.
And technically he's pure of heart because he can ride Nimbus.
Goku's a hero in the sense that when weird people show up killing folks he'll try and stop them. He's not a fan of killing and brutality and all that stuff.
As to Vegeta v Zod, I'd much prefer a monologue-off. Get the Terrence Stamp version of Zod and have them face off and have them yell dramatically at each other for a while.
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He flies it sporadically in both GT and Super, so canonically still pure of heart.
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Goku's a pure doofus. 100% himbo.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Goku is "pure of heart" insofar as he is incapable of malice. But that's only true because he is unable to conceptualize the consequences of his actions, much less take any responsibility for them. So he's too stupid to be evil, for interpretations of "evil" which hinge on intent.
Kid Goku evolves into a heroic, selfless character
Some of the later animation made Goku into a Bodhisattva-like figure - this annoyed Toriyama and allegedly this is partly where the more reckless Goku comes from
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Zod as a character actually wins sometimes, so overall Zod gets the better of Vegeta more likely than not. As far as superhuman combat abilities it's clear the Sayians are capable of surpassing anything so Vegeta wins there.
Tiebreaker settled by dueling monologues: Zod has had so many stories with different goals, motivations, tactics. I think this a plus in the old "time to prepare" chestnut, but here it only serves to make his self-assured villainy more muddled. Vegeta has always been Vegeta, he's got his monologue bolstered by the completeness of his character. Vegeta is THE HYPE his own Tvtrope category.
Kid Goku evolves into a heroic, selfless character
Some of the later animation made Goku into a Bodhisattva-like figure - this annoyed Toriyama and allegedly this is partly where the more reckless Goku comes from
Outside of being a shit husband and father, which you can attribute to him pretty stupid, Goku's least good quality is he's so eager for a good fight that he won't mitigate genocidal threats until they reach their full power. Like sparing your enemies, sure. Value in mercy and all. But letting every fight escalate is just selfish on his part.
You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
I imagine that Vegeta would get Zod to the brink of death, just in time for Cell to show up and eat Zod, thus gaining a new form to whoop Vegeta's ass in.
Vegeta inexplicably joins Zod and becomes evil to introduce tension in the story while he kills a bunch of random civilians.
Goku intervenes, it turns out Zod knows some Kryptonian magic and does it to Vegeta to give him the edge over Goku.
Vegeta beats Goku so hard that Goku falls off the planet for a while, Zod turns on Vegeta, Vegeta sacrifices himself to weaken Zod, Goku shows up and bodies Zod, then uses the Kryptonian Dragon Balls to resurrect everyone who died, including Vegeta.
Vegeta wins by default because none of Zod's flunkies survive to use the Dragon Balls... at least until Toriyama invents a new one ten years later, and they make a new series out of it, that gets adapted to a movie for the lazy weebs here in the States.
Vegeta inexplicably joins Zod and becomes evil to introduce tension in the story while he kills a bunch of random civilians.
Goku intervenes, it turns out Zod knows some Kryptonian magic and does it to Vegeta to give him the edge over Goku.
Vegeta beats Goku so hard that Goku falls off the planet for a while, Zod turns on Vegeta, Vegeta sacrifices himself to weaken Zod, Goku shows up and bodies Zod, then uses the Kryptonian Dragon Balls to resurrect everyone who died, including Vegeta.
Vegeta wins by default because none of Zod's flunkies survive to use the Dragon Balls... at least until Toriyama invents a new one ten years later, and they make a new series out of it, that gets adapted to a movie for the lazy weebs here in the States.
This is 100% how the fight would go, congratulations! Your new writer position on Dragon Ball Super is guaranteed.
Edit: sorry if this sounds sarcastic I didn't mean it that way I actually like this well-thought-out reply
Vegeta inexplicably joins Zod and becomes evil to introduce tension in the story while he kills a bunch of random civilians.
Goku intervenes, it turns out Zod knows some Kryptonian magic and does it to Vegeta to give him the edge over Goku.
Vegeta beats Goku so hard that Goku falls off the planet for a while, Zod turns on Vegeta, Vegeta sacrifices himself to weaken Zod, Goku shows up and bodies Zod, then uses the Kryptonian Dragon Balls to resurrect everyone who died, including Vegeta.
Vegeta wins by default because none of Zod's flunkies survive to use the Dragon Balls... at least until Toriyama invents a new one ten years later, and they make a new series out of it, that gets adapted to a movie for the lazy weebs here in the States.
This is 100% how the fight would go, congratulations! Your new writer position on Dragon Ball Super is guaranteed.
Edit: sorry if this sounds sarcastic I didn't mean it that way I actually like this well-thought-out reply
To be fair, I was trying to spoof the Buu Saga and Super. :rotate:
(I also like Resurrection: F, because I don't know if I'm a weeb, but I'm sure as shit lazy.)
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Also, I don't know who the other guy is. Does he also transform into a bigfoot in bad movies?
If not, it's looking pretty bad for him right about now.
Does Vegeta know about his extremely vulnerable neck bones or not?
Vegeta is kind of a chump but he's more self aware and chilled these days. I think he's like, look man. I get it I've been there. Intergalactic invader, cursed with a really annoying heroic figure to constantly orbit. Let's have a talk.
Because he's a dangerously powerful buffoon really when you think about it and a terrible father to boot
He may be in the conversation when talking about fighting Superman in single combat but when it comes to strength of character comparison Goku doesn't even rate
And technically he's pure of heart because he can ride Nimbus.
As to Vegeta v Zod, I'd much prefer a monologue-off. Get the Terrence Stamp version of Zod and have them face off and have them yell dramatically at each other for a while.
Pure of heart by Odin's standards? Bet Vision could ride the Nimbus and that boy got some cravings.
He flies it sporadically in both GT and Super, so canonically still pure of heart.
Kid Goku evolves into a heroic, selfless character
Some of the later animation made Goku into a Bodhisattva-like figure - this annoyed Toriyama and allegedly this is partly where the more reckless Goku comes from
Tiebreaker settled by dueling monologues: Zod has had so many stories with different goals, motivations, tactics. I think this a plus in the old "time to prepare" chestnut, but here it only serves to make his self-assured villainy more muddled. Vegeta has always been Vegeta, he's got his monologue bolstered by the completeness of his character. Vegeta is THE HYPE his own Tvtrope category.
Vegeta wins.
Outside of being a shit husband and father, which you can attribute to him pretty stupid, Goku's least good quality is he's so eager for a good fight that he won't mitigate genocidal threats until they reach their full power. Like sparing your enemies, sure. Value in mercy and all. But letting every fight escalate is just selfish on his part.
And then Vegeta goes through a similar arc, except Vegeta just shows up on earth and decides to hang
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Vegeta vs Zod: Bad Moms Edition
Who is going to sell the most bake sale goodies at the Fall Break Student Art Show?
Still Vegeta, but by a wider margin.
Goku intervenes, it turns out Zod knows some Kryptonian magic and does it to Vegeta to give him the edge over Goku.
Vegeta beats Goku so hard that Goku falls off the planet for a while, Zod turns on Vegeta, Vegeta sacrifices himself to weaken Zod, Goku shows up and bodies Zod, then uses the Kryptonian Dragon Balls to resurrect everyone who died, including Vegeta.
Vegeta wins by default because none of Zod's flunkies survive to use the Dragon Balls... at least until Toriyama invents a new one ten years later, and they make a new series out of it, that gets adapted to a movie for the lazy weebs here in the States.
edit- he knows two alien martial arts, plus he's been taught boxing and wrestling.
This is 100% how the fight would go, congratulations! Your new writer position on Dragon Ball Super is guaranteed.
Edit: sorry if this sounds sarcastic I didn't mean it that way I actually like this well-thought-out reply
To be fair, I was trying to spoof the Buu Saga and Super. :rotate:
(I also like Resurrection: F, because I don't know if I'm a weeb, but I'm sure as shit lazy.)