Max Payne, dearest of all my third person cinematic video games...

Drez

...remakes are incoming?!?!?!?!

https://www.gamesradar.com/max-payne-remakes-in-the-works-from-remedy-and-rockstar/

Max Payne and Max Payne 2 remakes are in development as part of a new development agreement between original developer/publisher team Remedy Entertainment and Rockstar Games.

This makes me SO HAPPY. I love Max Payne 1 and 2. I even really liked 3. This is great news.

Lucascraft

Being remade in the "Northlight Game Engine" which is the game engine used by Control, and they are also using it for Alan Wake 2.

I'm already imagining bullet timey goodness with all the concrete chunks and physics objects flying everywhere. This is the best news.

surrealitycheck

i played max payne 1 with kung fu mod in 2003 im literally the coolest human alive... or i would be if i ever got hold of a sick leather coat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIhjtSY-nxg

amazink

MegaMan001

Oh hell yes.

I still have the mousepad.

Cantido

3 genuinely and pleasantly surprised me. It abanonded the flowery noir-speak for down to earth snark and thoughtfully replaced Max's wacky PTSD with simple and effective alcoholism

shoeboxjeddy

Cantido wrote: »

3 genuinely and pleasantly surprised me. It abanonded the flowery noir-speak for down to earth snark and thoughtfully replaced Max's wacky PTSD with simple and effective alcoholism

You are correct, it did replace the things that were good with bad things instead, very thoughtful of Rockstar.

Prohass

I think both are good just different

Also while this rules and the control engine will be awesome, I will miss euphoria engine animations and such since no rockstar

Drez

I liked 3 a lot. It was hard as fuck, too.

ouchies

I never played the Max Payne games, but I will certainly give these remakes a look after having fallen in love with Control and the Alan Wake remaster. I do wonder if Remedy will try to fold Max Payne into their larger Remedyverse. Having not played the games, I don't know if there are any potential threads to tie into their connected universe, but it does seem that Remedy is trying to get their properities under one unified umbrella in order to create some connective tissue that links their creative work. They bought back the rights for Alan Wake back from Microsoft, if I understand correctly, and then explicitly made Alan Wake and Control part of the same setting. I'm curious if they have some ideas for these newly announced remakes, too.

Preacher

Drez wrote: »

I liked 3 a lot. It was hard as fuck, too.

I actually like it the most. Like the descent of max from being a violent police officer with nothing to lose, to a shattered alcoholic felt pretty much like a real trajectory.

And the combat in 3 was great.

BRIAN BLESSED

Honestly thinking about Control's engine and and clutter aesthetic translated into the Max Payne version of New York, makes me so excited I could fart

Prohass

The fact that it’s next gen only has me hopeful for some impressive stuff

Riboflavin

Played all three loved 1 & 2, liked 3. I think my tastes have changed because I am spoiled by massive open world games. I can't get pumped about the linear action shooter. I may get it when its cheap.

surrealitycheck

ok but get this what if they replace max with literally just sam lake

perfect

EDIT: AND THEN AS A META MOVE U CAN JUST PLAY AS JESSIE WITH ALTERNATE VOICE LINES AND MODEL AND NO EXPLANATION FOR WHY SHES THERE OTHER THAN "CONTROL SHIT"

shoeboxjeddy

Jessie enjoys things and is happy sometimes, she could never in a Max Payne story.

Jazz

TOGSolid

Max Payne 1 and 2 were such phenomenal games and I normally don't get excited for remakes but these in particular? Seeing what they could do with modern tech, bullet time, physics, etc.? Oh hell yeah, remodel that amusement park and get me an all day pass. I will gleefully spend half an hour all over again trying to Kobe a grenade through a window, bean someone in the balls with it causing them to crumple due to the impact, and have it blow up in their face rocketing them backwards off of their lift.

Preacher

How was the alan wake remake? My worry is they'd just polish the graphics and the gameplay would feel really dated.

Jazz

Wasn't Alan Wake "just" a remaster, not a full remake?

DarkPrimus

Preacher wrote: »

How was the alan wake remake? My worry is they'd just polish the graphics and the gameplay would feel really dated.

That was a remaster, not a remake.

shoeboxjeddy

Correct, Alan Wake Remaster didn't update anything except the graphics/ framerate. And it removed some product placement.

anoffday

I love these games and have replayed 1 multiple times. (Probably time for a playthrough)

The coolest part to me was the atmosphere in 1. The blizzard outside and NYC was super cool, but honestly wondering if in the remakes we might lose some of that atmosphere. Maybe I'm a nerd, ok yeah I'm a nerd, but there was something super cool, atmospheric, and even cozy about environments and cities especially in these early 2000s games.

Spoit

shoeboxjeddy wrote: »

Correct, Alan Wake Remaster didn't update anything except the graphics/ framerate. And it removed some product placement.

I still don't know how you rerelease Alan wake and don't add in some ray tracing effects. Especially coming from the studio that did control

Drez

anoffday wrote: »

I love these games and have replayed 1 multiple times. (Probably time for a playthrough)

The coolest part to me was the atmosphere in 1. The blizzard outside and NYC was super cool, but honestly wondering if in the remakes we might lose some of that atmosphere. Maybe I'm a nerd, ok yeah I'm a nerd, but there was something super cool, atmospheric, and even cozy about environments and cities especially in these early 2000s games.

My favorite part was also aesthetic, but a different kind of aesthetic. I absolutely loved that you could listen to mooks you were about to engage in, most of them increasing afraid of Max over the course of the game. It added a lot to the atmosphere.

surrealitycheck

i like that u can jump sideways shooting 2 gun (cool)

BRIAN BLESSED

I have a lot of narrative and setting gripes with the Rockstar sequel, but the flashback sequences were a decent modern facsimile of the noir aesthetic that Remedy produced. I'd like to think we'd definitely see the remakes step up on that atmosphere

cooljammer00

HD blood trails and baby cries

MegaMan001

"Pain in the butt!"
"Pain to the max!"

Writes itself

SniperGuy

ouchies wrote: »

I never played the Max Payne games, but I will certainly give these remakes a look after having fallen in love with Control and the Alan Wake remaster. I do wonder if Remedy will try to fold Max Payne into their larger Remedyverse. Having not played the games, I don't know if there are any potential threads to tie into their connected universe, but it does seem that Remedy is trying to get their properities under one unified umbrella in order to create some connective tissue that links their creative work. They bought back the rights for Alan Wake back from Microsoft, if I understand correctly, and then explicitly made Alan Wake and Control part of the same setting. I'm curious if they have some ideas for these newly announced remakes, too.

Oh they already did this.

Alan Wake is a writer. Max Payne is his hit book series by a slightly different name.

shoeboxjeddy

More specifically, Alan Wake is famous in universe for writing 6 novels about a character called "Alex Casey" who he killed at the end of the 6th book. In a Talk Show appearance you get to watch, Alan claimed that Casey was always so miserable he was basically begging for death the whole series. In a different encounter, someone says they like Wake's books but he went much too heavy on metaphors. You can also see an award or perhaps merch of some kind on Wake's bookshelf that is a golden set of the twin pistols that Payne (/Casey) famously prefers.

MegaMan001

How about a Lords and Ladies spin off Netflix show

Johnny Chopsocky

MegaMan001 wrote: »

How about a Lords and Ladies spin off Netflix show

Starring Sam Lake as: Everyone.

MegaMan001

https://mobile.twitter.com/samlakermd/status/1286393343946231825?lang=en

Damn it's not embedding. It's a photo of Sam Lake as Max 19 years later

Akilae

It won't be Max Payne without Sam Lake's constipated grimace in highest possible resolution.

Prohass

They need to have like an unlockable skin of that grimace as an Easter egg

PMAvers

For some reason I just imagined a NG+ unlock in the remake where Max gets a infinite ammo cheat by finding the Service Weapon.

Jazz

MegaMan001 wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/samlakermd/status/1286393343946231825?lang=en

Damn it's not embedding. It's a photo of Sam Lake as Max 19 years later

https://twitter.com/samlakermd/status/1286393343946231825?lang=en

There ya go (just delete the "mobile." from the URL).

And for those for whom embeds don't work:

Sam Lake wrote:

The 1st #MaxPayne game was released 19 years ago today. ”Do the face, Sam!” Since it’s his birthday and all. Happy birthday, Max. @remedygames

Edit: Sam does like getting his Max on. (Heh, Sam & Max, only just twigged that.) Here's his Twitter profile pic and header pic:

MegaMan001

I love that jacket

cooljammer00

I like that Sam Lake is still there after all these years, and became an unwitting celebrity due to them just needing a model for the first game. They even replaced him in the second one with a real actor, and people still have a huge fondness for Sam and the first Max.

Jazz

cooljammer00 wrote: »

I like that Sam Lake is still there after all these years, and became an unwitting celebrity due to them just needing a model for the first game. They even replaced him in the second one with a real actor, and people still have a huge fondness for Sam and the first Max.

There's mods to put Sam back into Max Payne 2, graphic novels scenes and all. That says a lot.