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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2023
    I've previously understood nonce to just mean a dumbass, not anything more specific, but that's entirely through osmosis so I've probably just been missing something all along.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    Solar wrote: »
    I reckon he's a nonce

    Any specific reason why? (I've only read Hyperion/Fall, Carrion, and The Terror, so maybe I'm missing some major context)

    Endymion/Rise of

    The MC ends up guardian of a child for a while and then after a timeskip/time travel they become lovers

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I reckon he's a nonce

    Any specific reason why? (I've only read Hyperion/Fall, Carrion, and The Terror, so maybe I'm missing some major context)

    Not really other than in Endymion the main dude gets with the child he raises when he goes through a timeskip and its dead creepy

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I reckon he's a nonce

    Any specific reason why? (I've only read Hyperion/Fall, Carrion, and The Terror, so maybe I'm missing some major context)

    Not really other than in Endymion the main dude gets with the child he raises when he goes through a timeskip and its dead creepy

    ahh, the Morgan Freeman, classic

    yuck

    I knew I hadn't read those books for some reason.

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    That's why we warn people away from Endymion/Rise!

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I've previously understood nonce to just mean a dumbass, not anything more specific, but that's entirely through osmosis so I've probably just been missing something all along.

    This came up in another thread recently and a lot of people apparently think the same as you, but in the UK it very specifically means a pedo

  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I've previously understood nonce to just mean a dumbass, not anything more specific, but that's entirely through osmosis so I've probably just been missing something all along.

    This came up in another thread recently and a lot of people apparently think the same as you, but in the UK it very specifically means a pedo

    As an American i had also heard it used similarly to dunce as a kid, but with the Internet i realized that in the UK it means a pedo. Which is a weird bit of etymology. Checking Wiktionary it shows that the UK meaning came about around 1975 but no one is sure why.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Different but kind of the same is the word “nimrod” which is taken to mean a moron, a dunce, etc.

    For that you can thank Bugs Bunny. “Nimrod” was a biblical figure, known as a mighty hunter. Bugs calls Elmer Fudd “nimrod” to mock him (because he’s a hunter but not mighty at all) but kids watching didn’t understand the reference so just assumed it meant a foolish person and that definition subsequently entered the lexicon

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    furlion wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I've previously understood nonce to just mean a dumbass, not anything more specific, but that's entirely through osmosis so I've probably just been missing something all along.

    This came up in another thread recently and a lot of people apparently think the same as you, but in the UK it very specifically means a pedo

    As an American i had also heard it used similarly to dunce as a kid, but with the Internet i realized that in the UK it means a pedo. Which is a weird bit of etymology. Checking Wiktionary it shows that the UK meaning came about around 1975 but no one is sure why.

    It originated as prison slang

  • RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I reckon he's a nonce

    Any specific reason why? (I've only read Hyperion/Fall, Carrion, and The Terror, so maybe I'm missing some major context)

    Not really other than in Endymion the main dude gets with the child he raises when he goes through a timeskip and its dead creepy

    Yeah, there's some neat scifi ideas in them but the core of the story is very gross and makes the whole endeavor not worth it.

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    There is also a problem that Endymion's protagonist is just the most boring human being possible in the existence, which is supposed to make him "relatable" I guess?

    Whatever the point was, it does not work, and the story suffers for it.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I've previously understood nonce to just mean a dumbass, not anything more specific, but that's entirely through osmosis so I've probably just been missing something all along.

    This came up in another thread recently and a lot of people apparently think the same as you, but in the UK it very specifically means a pedo

    It's also a good word to shout at people who deserve it

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    For some reason I have decided I want to read Romance of the Three Kingdoms

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Filthy. As a defender of traditional family values, I can't support any romance that isn't between one kingdom and one queendom.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Quit trying to tell me things about Endymion, I’ve done so well at avoiding it up to now!

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Quit trying to tell me things about Endymion, I’ve done so well at avoiding it up to now!

    The most important thing to know is to keep avoiding it

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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Every time I read the word Endymion I think it's the name of a digimon (disclaimer: I don't know anything about digimon)

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Nah he's just some bloke who sleeps all the time

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    I think there is worth in reading and talking about bad books (sometimes). They allow you to appreciate good books more.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
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    Is there an animal mascot for when a book you enjoyed gets referenced by people?

  • DesyDesy She/Her YeenRegistered User regular
    ... I'm adding this to my To-Read.

    That sounds wonderful.

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  • CornerEagleCornerEagle Magic Man by Heart Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Apparently the audiobook comes free with my Audible sub. Alrightey.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    ... I'm adding this to my To-Read.

    That sounds wonderful.

    River of Teeth
    River of Marrow

    Much emotions were had.

  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I wasn't a fan of River of Teeth but I cannot recall why

  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    I really wish I could find a way to just.... Saved the last like two pages of certain books just so I could listen to them again.


    The end of "Prayer for the Crown Shy" is just rumbling around in my head over and over and it's just so beautiful and I want to just feel that over and over.

  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    I wasn't a fan of River of Teeth but I cannot recall why

    It's not a happy story and it's very brutal, sometimes in a way that tells pointless and/or mean spirited

    Ideas hate it when you anthropomorphize them
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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    That's why you have to read the sequel to see how things turned out for the team

  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    I've read and own both. Just didn't do a ton for me

    Ideas hate it when you anthropomorphize them
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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    If you have to read the sequel then the first book wasn't worth it and the real answer is to read neither

  • ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    I wasn't a fan of River of Teeth but I cannot recall why
    For me it was because it felt like the author was narrating a comic book. I didn't get past the first few chapters of getting the gang of wacky characters back together one at a time.
    Maybe that's on me; I was hoping for Cormac McCarthy but with hippos instead of horses. Instead I got cornball with nothing below the surface.

  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Come to think of it I think that's why I've always bounced off of Neil Gaiman's books.

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited November 2023
    I'll invite this thread into helping me choose a book to read for my graduate history class.

    I have to choose a monograph written by a historian, published within the last five years, that is focused on a work of history (as opposed to something centered around sociology, economics, etc.). Through the next five weeks I'll read it and write a paper or two on it.

    Right now the front runners are:

    2nd place -- Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari

    1st place -- The Fabric of Civilization: How Textiles Made the World by Virginia Postrel

    I want to do the book about fabric, cause that just seems more interesting to me, but I am concerned that Postrel being a journalist (as opposed to a "historian") may get me marked down.

    Any recommendations for a history book, from the past 5 years, written by a historian??

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited November 2023
    Good lord. I just did a trawl through my history shelf on Goodreads and it turns out that the vast majority of them were written by journalists. I don't think any of them would unseat The Fabric of Civilization if you're taking that kind of swing, that's pretty near the top of my list of history books written in the last five years in any case. I also appear to have read it and Sapiens nearly back-to-back in the same month in 2021, and I liked it a lot better.

    In no particular order, the best three history books I've read by folks with actual history degrees published in the last five years:

    The Light Ages: The Surprising Story of Medieval Science by Seb Falk. Sort of a biography, but mostly using one monk involved in a lot of astronomical research and record-keeping to highlight what the scientific community looked like in the fourteenth century. Highly recommended if you enjoyed Anathem by Neal Stephenson.

    How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States by Daniel Immerwahr. Come for the incredibly petty dick-waving over guano islands, stay for the breathtaking arrogance of the one nation with undamaged infrastructure bullying the entire post-war world into using the shittiest screws they could find.

    Sundown Towns: A Hidden Dimension of American Racism by James W. Loewen. Most people, when asked to picture a town with a sign saying "African American Person (strongly pejorative) Don't Let the Sun Go Down on You in Inbredville" will instinctively picture someplace hot, formerly Confederate, and accented with banjos. But the entire phenomenon of the sundown town, where whole communities exercised collective violence to drive all the black people out and worked as a community to prevent any more from moving in, was almost exclusively an artifact of the North and Mountain West. And that's the playbook the most virulent and successful racism in America today still follows.

    Just in case sociologists count, I'll throw out a hail mary for Pirate Enlightenment, or the Real Libertalia by the late great David Graeber. It's an unapologetically anarchist framing of the pirate states of early eighteenth century Madagascar, and it seems like it would be a hell of a lot of fun to write a paper about.

    Sorry about all the journalists, it turns out they write a lot of really interesting books.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Thanks Jedoc!

    I'm going to submit The Fabric of Civilization and see if the professor is okay with it.

    I was interested in choosing a newish book on Jim Thorpe, but at 700+ pages, its just too big...

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2023
    I'll add that Harari is a hack and Sapiens is full of some very dubious "anthropology", if not outright bullshit. I don't rate it.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited November 2023
    It might not be a fit for your ask but it reminded me of the posthumous Graeber book, the dawn of everything. The two authors were an anthropologist and an archaeologist at least

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    I haven't read teh Fabric book yet but

    This one is in the same vein and absolutely amazing Women's Work: The First 20,000 Years by Elizabeth Wayland Barber

  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Not long now till new murderbot. I am excited

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  • DabbleDabble It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Got a lovely limited edition copy of Promise of Blood, the first book in the Powder Mage series. From the broken binding, so gorgeous stuff as always.

    But that got me to thinking and I can't remember. Was it McClellan that use to post here or Wexler (Shadow Campaign series)?

  • CornerEagleCornerEagle Magic Man by Heart Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Reading the He Who Fights With Monsters series means I get a lot of LitRPG recommendations, even stuff that's not obviously LitRPG. Latest one was "12 Miles Below" by Mark Arrows, about a post-apocalyptic frozen wasteland with underground caves full of murderous robots intent on extinction and occult knights in power armor fighting for humanity.

    I liked it. Good enough that I immediately picked up the sequel.

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