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Penny Arcade - Comic - Shitcom
Penny Arcade - Comic - Shitcom
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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But Bad Dragon does.
Sadly, season 8 of the HBO show ended so terribly that they might have permanently damaged the entire brand, and they might have completely killed public interest in the IP, despite its continued potential. That seems to be what this comic is alluding to. Does not sound as if Mike or Jerry have any interest in House of Dragons. I share the sentiment. I do not plan on watching, at least not unless I hear some outstanding word of mouth testimonials about it.
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I've heard of dragon your feet, but this is ridiculous!
leaving aside the damage they did to their brand in S8 the new show has all the usual prequel problems, not the least because I feel like the targ dynasty was pretty well covered in GoT. We already know how the story ends and that takes a lot of the fun out of wondering how this crazy royal family will all fuck and/or kill each other
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
There were grumblings during different parts of TWD, but I feel it really crashed when the thing with Glenn happened (early/mid-S6) and then Negan arrived and did his thing in the S7 premiere. They really lost people after that point, and never could figure out a way to make up for it.
Edit: If you look at the ratings, TWD really crashed and burned in the space of one episode (S7 E01). After that, a lot of fans were just completely done (myself included).
Not if you ask Jerry, apparently.
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I don't understand why. It's a TV show. A lot of people will probably both watch and enjoy it. And good for them. But it doesn't have to be an absolute blockbuster or cultural phenomena.
There's no reason to spit such vitriol. It's just a show. Unless hating on something like this is good for clicks on a website. That could be it, too. I'm sure there's something somewhere about how crapping on the new Game of Thrones show is a rocketship for engagement. There's probably a chart lying around somewhere.
But otherwise, I'd encourage people to break the cycle. Stop getting mad about stuff like this. And especially stop trying to get other people mad alongside you.
I haven't watched GoT, but from what I've heard about it (from its fans praising it, mind you, not from detractors), it sounds absolutely abhorrent. It's like if LotR was written by an edgy teen to have incest and tits and more violent deaths. Woo.
What I'm seeing in Tycho's post is anger over the fact that drivel is getting all the attention when there exist superior books and stories that are being ignored.
It's the whole L.H. Franzibald happening in real life.
Also apparently some anger over season 8 which I'm told is a crime against humanity.
I mean, I agree with you, nerds are too hyperbolic in general, but I don't think it's necessarily wrong to hate on something when you feel it ruined a genre (or rather, a genre's shot at mainstream or widespread popularity), or is damaging opportunities for better things to come out by monopolizing the scene.
There's a reason I'm ambivalent about certain MMOs but genuinely hate World of Warcraft for what it did to the MMO genre.
But you've been here for quite a while, ironzerg. You know Jerry brings out the cranky old man voice often when he thinks there's an injustice in the world (in this case money funneled to what he feels is an inferior IP). I think we all remember what happened when Gabe dared to mock a superior IP that one time.
I'm glad I tapped out when it seems like the audience did too. Season 6 was dire and I had no stomach for season 7 despite liking Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
I heard there was a spin off show with Negan and maggie and holy shit I can see why their ratings are in the toilet.
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I think they could have brought viewers back around in S7 if they had played Negan - one of the biggest characters of the series - right. But boy did they not. And then
That's why you see the huge dropoff in the S7 premier and the rest of the season. There was still a lot of people that wanted to give the show a chance to make up for faltering in S6. But they blew it.
Of course, I quit out on the comics, too. I realized "oh, right, they can never have any kind of lasting happiness in this story because it would derail the drama, so it will just be a continuous cycle of things falling apart." The whole point is to get you emotionally invested in characters before yanking the rug out from under you. Over and over and over.
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Another thought occurred to me in the same vein: Transformers movies. While I'm not to the "vitriol" level (and I don't think Jerry was, either), I can't deny that their continued financial success doesn't annoy me. I'm not going to make videos or write essays on it, but it's really hard to say "don't have an emotion."
But going back to the mine for prequels for both GoT (and LoTR) 'verses when there are plenty of other 'verses out there is just... eh? If anything I'm curious to see how well this one will be received with the general audience though, since GoT did manage to pull in a ton of people before season 8 happened.
See: Better Call Saul
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
How could you not include The Expanse in this list? :P
The enthusiast sphere and actual viewersphere don't always line up, so it's entirely possible that this prequel series may carry some water on a close scale to the original run as it approached its peak?
I guess this goes back into the point of "fantasy is becoming popular but it's all going to look like this now". But it's a bit more like, we who enjoy actual fairy tales and felt sort of weird for it before, now see fantasy entering the mainstream: and it proceeds to bully us too, in its very themes which tell us that those fairy tales are dumb kids stuff and real fantasy doesn't have any of that heroism crap.
No not really
The Chronicles of Narnina is about how Christianity is great.
Harry Potter is about how being a rich athlete is great.
The bad guys in Harry Potter are trying to cast down a student of mediocre academic achievement, in a setting where academic achievement is the primary weapon. And they fail.
Aside from falling into the incredibly broad isekai category they don't really share a lot of details.
I can, however, unironically say that I'd watch Gabe's dragon sitcom idea and am disappointed that networks aren't giving him millions of dollars to make it.
(Though rather than a friendly dragon in a sweater, I'd give him the appearance of you typical badass high fantasy Dragon. Just for the contrast of having a serious looking dragon being a struggling but well meaning dad in everyday situations)