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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    So the new Marine dex is putting more Oldmarine units out to pasture is what I'm gathering? Or consolidating Oldmarines with Primaris? Like Sternguard being one datasheet for both?

    Putting them out to pasture. They are releasing primaris models that will fill many of the gaps.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Yeah I think the only things without replacements are some of the old speeders. The new speeders don't fit the same cheap niche.

    Also scout bikers I guess.

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  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    List of rumoured axed units:
    • Librarian with Jump Pack
    • Assault Squad with Jump Packs (replaced by Jump Pack Intercessors)
    • Assault Squad on foot (long replaced by Assault Intercessors)
    • Relic Terminators
    • Contemptor Dreadnoughts
    • Ironclad Dreadnoughts
    • Vanguard Veterans on Foot (with Jump Packs still in)
    • Primaris Company Champion (as an individual; folded into Company Heroes unit)
    • Command Squad (replaced by Company Heroes)
    • Tyranic War Veterans
    • Astartes Servitors
    • Thunderfire Cannon
    • Sniper Scout Squad
    • Scout Bike Squad
    • Bike Squad (replaced by Outriders)
    • Attack Bikes
    • Captain on Bike
    • Land Speeders (Regular, Tornado, Typhoon, Storm)
    • Hunter
    • Stalker
    • Chaplain Cassius
    • Sergeant Telion
    • Sergeant Chronus

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Some of those could be more or less continued to be used with the primaris datasheet depending on the equipment, but a bunch of those don't really have an equivalent

  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    Oh how nice it is to not be collecting GW's flagship army!

  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    gunna use my ironclads as a Brutalis by glueing them onto one base linked with chains like a mangler squig

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    Two ironclads on top of each other in a trenchcoat?

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Seeing the new ceratus knight kit in House Lucaris
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    Compared to the Desecrator they painted up I see now it's split shins are black on the outside thigh armor is on the inside in black

    Still it is a debate how serious I am about building a knight army

  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Some of those could be more or less continued to be used with the primaris datasheet depending on the equipment, but a bunch of those don't really have an equivalent

    The only stuff I think will really be missed are Jump Librarians and Attack Bikes. Maybe Sniper Scout Squads.

    I like Speeders but their use as super-disposable light vehicles never really seemed to gel with the rest of the Marine cast, and the new ones fit better.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Pretty sure the new scout squad includes sniper rifles, so they’re probably just getting merged, so you’ll still be able to take a full set of scope boys.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Pretty sure the new scout squad includes sniper rifles, so they’re probably just getting merged, so you’ll still be able to take a full set of scope boys.

    If the scout preview was correct, there is one sniper rifle in the box

  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    List of rumoured axed units:
    • Librarian with Jump Pack
    • Assault Squad with Jump Packs (replaced by Jump Pack Intercessors)
    • Assault Squad on foot (long replaced by Assault Intercessors)
    • Relic Terminators
    • Contemptor Dreadnoughts
    • Ironclad Dreadnoughts
    • Vanguard Veterans on Foot (with Jump Packs still in)
    • Primaris Company Champion (as an individual; folded into Company Heroes unit)
    • Command Squad (replaced by Company Heroes)
    • Tyranic War Veterans
    • Astartes Servitors
    • Thunderfire Cannon
    • Sniper Scout Squad
    • Scout Bike Squad
    • Bike Squad (replaced by Outriders)
    • Attack Bikes
    • Captain on Bike
    • Land Speeders (Regular, Tornado, Typhoon, Storm)
    • Hunter
    • Stalker
    • Chaplain Cassius
    • Sergeant Telion
    • Sergeant Chronus

    Thunderfire, Hunter, and Stalker are weird. You could just rebox the Thunderfire with a Primaris Techmarine; and unless there's new hotness, the Hunter and Stalker were all the AA vehicles. Though those might be replaced with some floating monstrosity bristling with five different variations of 'stubber'.

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  • RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    As always I'm curious what this means for the Space Wolves and their unique compositions of Firstborn but I don't think I'm going to like the answer.

  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    What part of 'rebuy your entire army' don't you like?

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    I can imagine the non-vanilla chapters getting bespoke primaris units once the main core of units has been fleshed out
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Thunderfire, Hunter, and Stalker are weird. You could just rebox the Thunderfire with a Primaris Techmarine; and unless there's new hotness, the Hunter and Stalker were all the AA vehicles. Though those might be replaced with some floating monstrosity bristling with five different variations of 'stubber'.

    Thunderfire's cool but as a resin kit it was definitely for the axe.
    Hunter and Stalker havn't been any good since the domination of aircraft in 8th (?), and even then i dont remember them being super popular. They probably dont sell very well.
    Centurians must be up for the chop soon, but they've had decent rules semi recently so people might still be buying them.
    Just guessing all this of course

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Controversial opinion: all flamers should be Anti-infantry 4+ with Devastating Wounds. Change my mind!

    No seriously, they are just boltguns that auto hit in exchange for some range at the moment. Not worth it compared to the other, blatantly better, options. Yet their power has very little to do with actually burning things but more to do with sucking up the oxygen in the atmosphere before the enemy can breathe it in.

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  • AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Controversial opinion: all flamers should be Anti-infantry 4+ with Devastating Wounds. Change my mind!

    No seriously, they are just boltguns that auto hit in exchange for some range at the moment. Not worth it compared to the other, blatantly better, options. Yet their power has very little to do with actually burning things but more to do with sucking up the oxygen in the atmosphere before the enemy can breathe it in.

    I kind of disagree, but only in that I think devastating wounds should be kept to heavy flamers instead of all flamers. I feel like that would balance things better. And I saw that as someone who loves flamers even if they are bad.

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  • McGibsMcGibs TorontoRegistered User regular
    Bring back flamer templates. They were unfairly maligned with blast templates, but they were always cool.
    Make people fear the teardrop again.

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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    Pretty sure the new scout squad includes sniper rifles, so they’re probably just getting merged, so you’ll still be able to take a full set of scope boys.

    If the scout preview was correct, there is one sniper rifle in the box

    “One shot, .2365 kills!”

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Well, this looks fun
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    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/20/building-the-cerastus-knights-acheron-and-castigator-including-awesome-flexible-ammo-feed/

    Like, I mean, the poseabilty is cool, but the prep is going to be soooo repetitive

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  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    List of rumoured axed units:
    • Librarian with Jump Pack
    • Assault Squad with Jump Packs (replaced by Jump Pack Intercessors)
    • Assault Squad on foot (long replaced by Assault Intercessors)
    • Relic Terminators
    • Contemptor Dreadnoughts
    • Ironclad Dreadnoughts
    • Vanguard Veterans on Foot (with Jump Packs still in)
    • Primaris Company Champion (as an individual; folded into Company Heroes unit)
    • Command Squad (replaced by Company Heroes)
    • Tyranic War Veterans
    • Astartes Servitors
    • Thunderfire Cannon
    • Sniper Scout Squad
    • Scout Bike Squad
    • Bike Squad (replaced by Outriders)
    • Attack Bikes
    • Captain on Bike
    • Land Speeders (Regular, Tornado, Typhoon, Storm)
    • Hunter
    • Stalker
    • Chaplain Cassius
    • Sergeant Telion
    • Sergeant Chronus

    Thunderfire, Hunter, and Stalker are weird. You could just rebox the Thunderfire with a Primaris Techmarine; and unless there's new hotness, the Hunter and Stalker were all the AA vehicles. Though those might be replaced with some floating monstrosity bristling with five different variations of 'stubber'.

    Thunderfire always had issues meaningfully differentiating itself from the Whirlwind and was a very complex kit; probably just didn't sell well enough to justify making a new mold when the current one wears out.

    I've literally never seen a Hunter or Stalker on the board, so probably similar issues there. You can just wrap an AA mode into the Whirlwind datasheet if it's really necessary.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Trying to decide if i want to build a generally meta shooty black templar army or build around a land raider, 2 squads of sword brethren black tide army.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Trying to decide if i want to build a generally meta shooty black templar army or build around a land raider, 2 squads of sword brethren black tide army.

    I have not built the 2 crusade squads I have I did find the tanks I misplaced [I have a gladiator and either an implusor or replusor} I am curious if I can use the left over parts on some of the Intercessors got that I did not do anything with as I got them for my homebrew kill team/combat patrol

    I have a feeling my brother is going to bench his space wolves in favor of playing necrons and/or tyranids

  • Redcoat-13Redcoat-13 Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Well, this looks fun
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    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/20/building-the-cerastus-knights-acheron-and-castigator-including-awesome-flexible-ammo-feed/

    Like, I mean, the poseabilty is cool, but the prep is going to be soooo repetitive

    It’s an improvement from having to build any of the forge world resin kits though.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Once you got the links together it's probably even way easier to fit together than precurved plastic belts even if you go for the premade stock positioning of the model.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Redcoat-13 wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    Well, this looks fun
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    BoJH4u5sNXSWpz8V.jpg


    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/20/building-the-cerastus-knights-acheron-and-castigator-including-awesome-flexible-ammo-feed/

    Like, I mean, the poseabilty is cool, but the prep is going to be soooo repetitive

    It’s an improvement from having to build any of the forge world resin kits though.

    So we betting one box with both weapon options or two separate kits?

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Separate kits.
    Also:
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    Alarming revelations about the allegiance of the Castigator…

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    i'm getting mold-line terrors just looking at that ammo belt sprue

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Dayspring wrote: »
    i'm getting mold-line terrors just looking at that ammo belt sprue

    Yeah, that's the worst part about it really

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    So I primed a bunch of the barb and neuro gaunts just the larger neuro I misplaced and I think it fell off the prime stick into the void

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Dayspring wrote: »
    i'm getting mold-line terrors just looking at that ammo belt sprue

    Yeah, that's the worst part about it really

    Nice thing is it’s a new mould for a low volume product. Lines should be minimal this first batch.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    Dayspring wrote: »
    i'm getting mold-line terrors just looking at that ammo belt sprue

    Yeah, that's the worst part about it really

    Nice thing is it’s a new mould for a low volume product. Lines should be minimal this first batch.

    Also if they’re smart they put the line right on the interior rim of the part rather than halfway up the sides. Even untrimmed it would be barely visible that way.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    The reaction to the wolfy Mcwolf heads for Space wolves was that bad, huh?

    new Mk6 helmets:
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    also a new Praetor
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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Holy shit; space wolf kits from Forge World I would actually buy!

    ...because dragons are AWESOME! That's why.
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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    angry little mustache face:
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  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    Dayspring wrote: »
    i'm getting mold-line terrors just looking at that ammo belt sprue

    Honestly on stuff that small and numerous just leave it. If someone calls you out on it just say it's a shitty weld.

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  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    honovere wrote: »
    The reaction to the wolfy Mcwolf heads for Space wolves was that bad, huh?

    The silly wolf helmets seem to already be scrubbed from ForgeWorld's site.

    Kind of a shame - they could have hung around for anyone who did want them.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    I know a guy using the wolf helmets for a Votann conversion. Hope he got enough.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited September 2023
    Have Wolves had that over the helmet animal crest before or are they just stealing Votan stylings for the Praetor because they did space viking much better?

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