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Saw a reference today to a suggestion that McCarthy may need to try to pull a few democratic votes to keep speakership as “McCarthy sending feelers for ‘Coalition government’ with Democrats”, and man that’s just *chef’s kiss*.
Saw a reference today to a suggestion that McCarthy may need to try to pull a few democratic votes to keep speakership as “McCarthy sending feelers for ‘Coalition government’ with Democrats”, and man that’s just *chef’s kiss*.
As many bridges as he's burned and as many times he's been caught being a two faced shit weasel I hope every Democrat flips him the bird in person, double birding for emphasis.
Jayapal is floating a power-sharing agreement, probably more like a taunt than a proposal she expects McCarthy to take- that could have incepted the idea that McCarthy is looking for dem support
For completely different reasons, an agreement with dems to keep the gavel with McCarthy is going to be even harder for him to manage than the impossible situation he’s in with the Freedom Caucus. He’s 90% aligned with Boebert and Gaetz and 0% with dems.
I'm seeing stuff in the new aggregates about how there was an ethics probe into Gaetz and that the results of that are dropping real soon. Apparently, if it doesn't clear him, it sounds like he has pissed off enough people in his own caucus that they are strongly inclined to bounce his ass out of Congress. Though hard to say much of that is truth and how much of that is just rumor. I mean, given that the fucker seems hell bent of shitting everything up for McCarthy, it might have been concluded that the GOP really loses nothing if they vote him out, even if democrats pick up his district in the inevitable special election. Note, I'm not well versed in the nature of that district at all, so no idea on what the odds would be.
So this week we might see McCarthy booted out of the speakership. We might see Gaetz get expelled. We might see both happen or we might not see either happen. Frankly, I'd love to see both happen.
I'm seeing stuff in the new aggregates about how there was an ethics probe into Gaetz and that the results of that are dropping real soon. Apparently, if it doesn't clear him, it sounds like he has pissed off enough people in his own caucus that they are strongly inclined to bounce his ass out of Congress. Though hard to say much of that is truth and how much of that is just rumor. I mean, given that the fucker seems hell bent of shitting everything up for McCarthy, it might have been concluded that the GOP really loses nothing if they vote him out, even if democrats pick up his district in the inevitable special election. Note, I'm not well versed in the nature of that district at all, so no idea on what the odds would be.
So this week we might see McCarthy booted out of the speakership. We might see Gaetz get expelled. We might see both happen or we might not see either happen. Frankly, I'd love to see both happen.
House Republicans aren't worried about ethics, they're worried about heresy. If Santos is still there Gaetz definitely isn't going anywhere.
Gavin Newsom has chosen Laphonza Butler as Dianne Feinstein's replacement.
Butler was president of SEIU (Service Employees International Union) Local 15 in Californoa for almost a decade, representing hundreds of thousands of service workers
Cool, right?
Except that her more recent employment has been advising and representing Uber during their Proposition 22 push that classified Uber's drivers as "independent contractors" rather than employees, the better to avoid having to compensate them and be liable for good working conditions.
While simultaneously advising Kamala Harris' presidential campaign on labor relations.
And then doing a stint as director at AirBnB.
"Democratic politician does stint as labor champion until they can get a gig as a corporate lobbyist" seems a bit cliche, and yet it keeps happening.
Union leader --> helping Uber out during Prop 22 is some bleak shit.
Dude, he picked a lesbian black woman with years of union/labor credentials to steward the seat until january 2025 after california gets to elect someone for the chair. Congrats on finding a specific angle to be mad about, but this is literally about as good as it gets unless you are saying fuck democracy and let governors pick senators for the people instead of elections.
Who, exactly, would you want him to choose that wouldn't have made him a liar to the people he represents?
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Speaking of Butler. While talking about her possible faults in the last thread, one being her Kamela work/fandom, this quote is just absolutely perfect.
Harris says a lot of the right things, despite some of the terrible shit she's done
Union leader --> helping Uber out during Prop 22 is some bleak shit.
Dude, he picked a lesbian black woman with years of union/labor credentials to steward the seat until 2025 when california gets to elect someone. Congrats on finding a specific angle to be mad about, but this is literally about as good as it gets unless you are saying fuck democracy and let governors pick senators for the people instead of elections.
Who, exactly, would you want him to choose that wouldn't have made him a liar to the people he represents?
"Didnt personally help deliver one of the biggest blows to American labor in years" shouldnt be too much to ask.
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Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
SW-4158-3990-6116
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Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Woah woah woah, we don't ask for details or more information or nuance here. C'mon.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Union leader --> helping Uber out during Prop 22 is some bleak shit.
Dude, he picked a lesbian black woman with years of union/labor credentials to steward the seat until january 2025 after california gets to elect someone for the chair. Congrats on finding a specific angle to be mad about, but this is literally about as good as it gets unless you are saying fuck democracy and let governors pick senators for the people instead of elections.
Who, exactly, would you want him to choose that wouldn't have made him a liar to the people he represents?
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
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Union leader --> helping Uber out during Prop 22 is some bleak shit.
Dude, he picked a lesbian black woman with years of union/labor credentials to steward the seat until january 2025 after california gets to elect someone for the chair. Congrats on finding a specific angle to be mad about, but this is literally about as good as it gets unless you are saying fuck democracy and let governors pick senators for the people instead of elections.
Who, exactly, would you want him to choose that wouldn't have made him a liar to the people he represents?
Katie Porter
Newsom put himself in a hard position to do when he said he would appoint an African American to position.
To the point that most folks were expecting Congresswoman Barbra Lee or Karen Bass to the position.
Porter wasn't going to be appointed. But at the same time with the fact that Butler is a suppose to be a seat warmer till either Porter, Lee, or Schiff can win the seat next year this doesn't seem a terrible outcome.
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syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Teamregular
Union leader --> helping Uber out during Prop 22 is some bleak shit.
Dude, he picked a lesbian black woman with years of union/labor credentials to steward the seat until january 2025 after california gets to elect someone for the chair. Congrats on finding a specific angle to be mad about, but this is literally about as good as it gets unless you are saying fuck democracy and let governors pick senators for the people instead of elections.
Who, exactly, would you want him to choose that wouldn't have made him a liar to the people he represents?
Katie Porter
She is running. Putting her in the chair would have fucked over the primaries. Something that Gavin explicitly said he would not do.
He also said he was going to put a black woman in the chair.
So, he would have lied multiple times to make that choice.
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protip; Under Google's advanced options, you can choose date range filters to escape breathless reporting and algorithms around current news. 1/1/2016 to 1/1/2022 was useful here.
Youre stuck kind of reading between the lines on what "Uber has also retained Laphonza Butler, a senior Harris campaign strategist, to advise the company on its dealings with organized labor." means, in connection with her involvenement as a political labor consultant.
Retaining the advice of a pro-labor organizer doesnt mean much, to me. Uber asking for advice on making people happy without giving them anything they dont want to means understanding their positions etc
Keep your friends close, enemies closer
Tumin on
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protip; Under Google's advanced options, you can choose date range filters to escape breathless reporting and algorithms around current news. 1/1/2016 to 1/1/2022 was useful here.
It’s paywalled for me, any chance you could provide a cliff notes?
You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
This is a good explanation I saw elsewhere of why her work for gig economy companies has people upset:
For me it has zero to do with purity and everything to do with the person's actual political priorities.
It's not enough to have been an SEIU officer in the past and although representation does matter, it's also not sufficient to ensure the person votes in a way most beneficial to those who share an identity with them.
AirBnB deliberately hires folks with the trappings of progressivism to provide an appearance of progress while in reality trashing the economy (reducing union jobs in the hotel industry, likely local increasing rent costs, etc. )
protip; Under Google's advanced options, you can choose date range filters to escape breathless reporting and algorithms around current news. 1/1/2016 to 1/1/2022 was useful here.
It’s paywalled for me, any chance you could provide a cliff notes?
Not that Id ever put "remove paywall" into google and choose any of the first few sites myself
It isn't very cliff notable? She did stints as a labor organizer, she got tapped for consulting work for campaigns. She has ties to Kamala Harris and is probably a backchannel for her. as VP, probably acted as one during her AG stint.
As a labor organizer, she worked with nurses in Baltimore and Milwaukee, janitors in Philadelphia and hospital workers in New Haven, Conn. In 2009, Butler moved to California, where she organized caregivers and in-home nurses.
In 2013, she assumed leadership of the state’s largest labor union, the Service Employees International Union, where Butler engaged in a number of campaigns and legislative battles, including efforts to boost California’s minimum wage and raise income taxes on its wealthiest residents.
Butler left the union in 2018 to join one of the state’s leading political consulting firms and played a central role in Kamala Harris’ 2020 run for president; she remains friendly with the vice president, whom Butler first met in 2010 as Harris waged an uphill, ultimately successful, bid for attorney general.
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So this week we might see McCarthy booted out of the speakership. We might see Gaetz get expelled. We might see both happen or we might not see either happen. Frankly, I'd love to see both happen.
Big "all christmases to come at once" energy on those. Not holding my breath. But I will admit the thought just brought a fleeting smile to my withered husk.
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Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
Or, like, even understand the position of labor. They need to talk to people who understand the positions, who are experts in the space, and I don't think it is right to expect those folks to do it for free.
I also don't think its a good thing for companies to just fly blind and not get expert analysis from SMEs.
Companies pay for expert advisors who provide views into competition or opposition to better understand those positions.
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protip; Under Google's advanced options, you can choose date range filters to escape breathless reporting and algorithms around current news. 1/1/2016 to 1/1/2022 was useful here.
It’s paywalled for me, any chance you could provide a cliff notes?
One is her taking over Emily's List which supports women running for office and her background. From a poor family in Mississippi. Went to an HBCU. Helped build out the SEIU she ended up leading. Fought tooth and nail with Schwarzenegger and Brown. Good friends with VP Harris and worked with her on her first campaigns. Joined the consulting firm in 2019, this is where people are grumpy, that is tied to Harris and Newsom. Worked on VP Harris's presidential campaign as a consultant and is still friends with VP Harris. Moved on to Emily's List where she focused on trying to get women of all types able to join and successfully run for office.
Here is the bit about Uber.
Uber has also retained Laphonza Butler, a senior Harris campaign strategist, to advise the company on its dealings with organized labor.
Butler, who used to lead SEIU California, is a partner at SCRB Strategies, a consulting firm that Uber paid $105,000 during the first half of the year, according to records filed with the California secretary of state. SCRB’s other partners are Juan Rodriguez, who is Harris’ campaign manager, and Sean Clegg and Ace Smith, both senior strategists on her campaign.
Like Synd said it is an inkblot. You can read anything you want into this.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
Or, like, even understand the position of labor. They need to talk to people who understand the positions, who are experts in the space, and I don't think it is right to expect those folks to do it for free.
I also don't think its a good thing for companies to just fly blind and not get expert analysis from SMEs.
Companies pay for expert advisors who provide views into competition or opposition to better understand those positions.
The gig economy and labor are intrinsically opposed - in the past, piece labor (which is what the gig economy is, fundamentally) is the sort of thing that unions organized against.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
Or, like, even understand the position of labor. They need to talk to people who understand the positions, who are experts in the space, and I don't think it is right to expect those folks to do it for free.
I also don't think its a good thing for companies to just fly blind and not get expert analysis from SMEs.
Companies pay for expert advisors who provide views into competition or opposition to better understand those positions.
Yes, they want insight into unions and organized labor so that they can beat them and keep their labor force poor. Which is where Butler's lobbying work came in. You couch it in terms of understanding and insight and skip over to what end.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
Or, like, even understand the position of labor. They need to talk to people who understand the positions, who are experts in the space, and I don't think it is right to expect those folks to do it for free.
I also don't think its a good thing for companies to just fly blind and not get expert analysis from SMEs.
Companies pay for expert advisors who provide views into competition or opposition to better understand those positions.
Yes, they want insight into unions and organized labor so that they can beat them and keep their labor force poor. Which is where Butler's lobbying work came in. You couch it in terms of understanding and insight and skip over to what end.
Working for change from inside the system; not even once
$105,000 to a consulting firm, not lobbying those are different things, is pennies. Fuck that might have been like a few meetings and describing at the time what the bill meant to Uber, how unions can work, and what it might mean for their future.
And yes Uber probably wanted insight for both in case they didn't get law repealed but also what it will look like for those who support the law.
This feels more like folks are mad more she just isn't a unicorn because she did end up working in the firm attached to Harris, who I believe some people still really dislike here, and she isn't going to accelerate anything. She is going to be a consistent vote for Dems and by 2025 this will be irrelevant as you will have Schiff, Barbra Lee, or Porter in that seat.
We are so proud of our sister @LaphonzaB, just named our U.S. Senator for California! Her past leadership here @SEIU2015 to bring long-term care workers out of the shadows and the huge part she played in the #FightFor15 make her a perfect choice for all Californians.
A good choice to continue to diversify the Senate, solid labor background, and helps keep the primary fair. Cool.
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$105,000 to a consulting firm, not lobbying those are different things, is pennies. Fuck that might have been like a few meetings and describing at the time what the bill meant to Uber, how unions can work, and what it might mean for their future.
And yes Uber probably wanted insight for both in case they didn't get law repealed but also what it will look like for those who support the law.
This feels more like folks are mad more she just isn't a unicorn because she did end up working in the firm attached to Harris, who I believe some people still really dislike here, and she isn't going to accelerate anything. She is going to be a consistent vote for Dems and by 2025 this will be irrelevant as you will have Schiff, Barbra Lee, or Porter in that seat.
105,000 to a firm she was connected to could mean that she sat in on 1-2 meetings and maybe wrote some analysis up on how labor may respond to their efforts. Chances are she was not working alone on this and her actual cash draw would be so small as to be largely irrelevant to her annual income.
She almost certainly wasn't helping them draft the legislation or using her influence to push it through on that kind of cash. That's ridiculous.
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Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
We know what Uber was doing during the time period she was advising and consulting for them. They ran a deceptive ad campaign to bamboozle voters into thinking that voting for Prop 22 was a good thing for workers, instead of a terrible blow to workers' rights.
When someone is hired by a corporation to advise and consult "on relations with organized labor," is it always because the corporation is looking to impede unionization efforts and smother dissent.
California’s Prop 22 was a ballot initiative led by app-based companies such as Uber, Lyft, and DoorDash to exclude ride-hail and food-delivery app-based workers from nearly all employee rights under state law, including the right to a minimum wage, time-and-a-half for overtime, expenses reimbursement, and benefits such as unemployment compensation and state workers’ compensation.
To get Prop 22 passed, Uber and Lyft bombarded television, social media, and their own workers with pressure tactics and deceptive advertising, including the flat-out false claim that Prop 22 would increase, not decrease, workers’ rights. As a result, one survey of California voters founds that 40 percent of “yes” voters thought they were supporting gig workers’ ability to earn a living wage.[1] Other voters said they did not realize they were making a choice between guaranteed rights and protections through employment and “an arbitrary set of supplemental benefits . . . designed by the gig companies.”[2]
Uber also adopted a new cynical marketing slogan—“If you tolerate racism, delete Uber”—to claim solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement while, at the same time, seeking to enshrine a second-class employment status for California’s ride-hail and food-delivery app-based workers, who are overwhelmingly people of color and immigrants, in what legal scholar Veena Dubal has called a “new racial wage code.”[3] Dubal writes: “By highlighting particular forms of racial subjugation, while ignoring and profiting from others, the corporate sponsors of Prop 22 successfully concealed the very structures of racial oppression that [Prop 22] entrenched and from which companies benefit.”[4]
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Does anyone even know what she did for uber when she represented them in 2019? Were they paying her to dismantle the driver's rights, or to understand the labor position?
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
Or, like, even understand the position of labor. They need to talk to people who understand the positions, who are experts in the space, and I don't think it is right to expect those folks to do it for free.
I also don't think its a good thing for companies to just fly blind and not get expert analysis from SMEs.
Companies pay for expert advisors who provide views into competition or opposition to better understand those positions.
Yes, they want insight into unions and organized labor so that they can beat them and keep their labor force poor. Which is where Butler's lobbying work came in. You couch it in terms of understanding and insight and skip over to what end.
Working for change from inside the system; not even once
As Audre Lorde put it, "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house." The gig economy and organized labor are intrinsically opposed by their very nature, and these companies hire progressives as a form of reputation whitewashing. Now if you want to argue that this should be seen in context with her career, that is something different - but this idea that her work for some of the worst offenders in the gig economy is "no big deal" shows an unawareness of the issues involved.
Sure, it's not great. On balance, it doesn't outweigh everything else she's done, she doesn't need to be politically exiled for it, and she'll be fine holding the seat until the next election.
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As many bridges as he's burned and as many times he's been caught being a two faced shit weasel I hope every Democrat flips him the bird in person, double birding for emphasis.
For completely different reasons, an agreement with dems to keep the gavel with McCarthy is going to be even harder for him to manage than the impossible situation he’s in with the Freedom Caucus. He’s 90% aligned with Boebert and Gaetz and 0% with dems.
So this week we might see McCarthy booted out of the speakership. We might see Gaetz get expelled. We might see both happen or we might not see either happen. Frankly, I'd love to see both happen.
House Republicans aren't worried about ethics, they're worried about heresy. If Santos is still there Gaetz definitely isn't going anywhere.
Butler was president of SEIU (Service Employees International Union) Local 15 in Californoa for almost a decade, representing hundreds of thousands of service workers
Cool, right?
Except that her more recent employment has been advising and representing Uber during their Proposition 22 push that classified Uber's drivers as "independent contractors" rather than employees, the better to avoid having to compensate them and be liable for good working conditions.
While simultaneously advising Kamala Harris' presidential campaign on labor relations.
And then doing a stint as director at AirBnB.
"Democratic politician does stint as labor champion until they can get a gig as a corporate lobbyist" seems a bit cliche, and yet it keeps happening.
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May he get sunk in an Earthquake.
Dude, he picked a lesbian black woman with years of union/labor credentials to steward the seat until january 2025 after california gets to elect someone for the chair. Congrats on finding a specific angle to be mad about, but this is literally about as good as it gets unless you are saying fuck democracy and let governors pick senators for the people instead of elections.
Who, exactly, would you want him to choose that wouldn't have made him a liar to the people he represents?
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"Didnt personally help deliver one of the biggest blows to American labor in years" shouldnt be too much to ask.
All I can find is "represented uber in 2019" with various amounts of scare quotes depending on which website is saying it. There are no quotes or anything I can find for what she actually did.
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Woah woah woah, we don't ask for details or more information or nuance here. C'mon.
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Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
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Which is a statement that could be read as charitably or uncharitably as you want. It's a Rorschach ink blot.
I think someone with her background is actually the kind of person I would want uber paying to understand how to deal with and work with labor. That they followed through on her advice, or what her advice even was, is absent from any commentary I am seeing here or elsewhere.
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Newsom put himself in a hard position to do when he said he would appoint an African American to position.
To the point that most folks were expecting Congresswoman Barbra Lee or Karen Bass to the position.
Porter wasn't going to be appointed. But at the same time with the fact that Butler is a suppose to be a seat warmer till either Porter, Lee, or Schiff can win the seat next year this doesn't seem a terrible outcome.
She is running. Putting her in the chair would have fucked over the primaries. Something that Gavin explicitly said he would not do.
He also said he was going to put a black woman in the chair.
So, he would have lied multiple times to make that choice.
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https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-11-05/laphonza-butler-first-black-woman-to-lead-emilys-list
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-laphonza-butler-20181207-story.html
Three relevant articles, from the before times
protip; Under Google's advanced options, you can choose date range filters to escape breathless reporting and algorithms around current news. 1/1/2016 to 1/1/2022 was useful here.
Youre stuck kind of reading between the lines on what "Uber has also retained Laphonza Butler, a senior Harris campaign strategist, to advise the company on its dealings with organized labor." means, in connection with her involvenement as a political labor consultant.
Retaining the advice of a pro-labor organizer doesnt mean much, to me. Uber asking for advice on making people happy without giving them anything they dont want to means understanding their positions etc
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It’s paywalled for me, any chance you could provide a cliff notes?
Advised them on how to deal with the unions.
I mean its possible I guess that she advised them to not try to fuck over labor but I doubt it. Idk what details we're hoping to uncover that makes her lobbying work morally acceptable.
This is a good explanation I saw elsewhere of why her work for gig economy companies has people upset:
Not that Id ever put "remove paywall" into google and choose any of the first few sites myself
It isn't very cliff notable? She did stints as a labor organizer, she got tapped for consulting work for campaigns. She has ties to Kamala Harris and is probably a backchannel for her. as VP, probably acted as one during her AG stint.
Big "all christmases to come at once" energy on those. Not holding my breath. But I will admit the thought just brought a fleeting smile to my withered husk.
Or, like, even understand the position of labor. They need to talk to people who understand the positions, who are experts in the space, and I don't think it is right to expect those folks to do it for free.
I also don't think its a good thing for companies to just fly blind and not get expert analysis from SMEs.
Companies pay for expert advisors who provide views into competition or opposition to better understand those positions.
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One is her taking over Emily's List which supports women running for office and her background. From a poor family in Mississippi. Went to an HBCU. Helped build out the SEIU she ended up leading. Fought tooth and nail with Schwarzenegger and Brown. Good friends with VP Harris and worked with her on her first campaigns. Joined the consulting firm in 2019, this is where people are grumpy, that is tied to Harris and Newsom. Worked on VP Harris's presidential campaign as a consultant and is still friends with VP Harris. Moved on to Emily's List where she focused on trying to get women of all types able to join and successfully run for office.
Here is the bit about Uber.
Like Synd said it is an inkblot. You can read anything you want into this.
The gig economy and labor are intrinsically opposed - in the past, piece labor (which is what the gig economy is, fundamentally) is the sort of thing that unions organized against.
Yes, they want insight into unions and organized labor so that they can beat them and keep their labor force poor. Which is where Butler's lobbying work came in. You couch it in terms of understanding and insight and skip over to what end.
Working for change from inside the system; not even once
And yes Uber probably wanted insight for both in case they didn't get law repealed but also what it will look like for those who support the law.
This feels more like folks are mad more she just isn't a unicorn because she did end up working in the firm attached to Harris, who I believe some people still really dislike here, and she isn't going to accelerate anything. She is going to be a consistent vote for Dems and by 2025 this will be irrelevant as you will have Schiff, Barbra Lee, or Porter in that seat.
A good choice to continue to diversify the Senate, solid labor background, and helps keep the primary fair. Cool.
105,000 to a firm she was connected to could mean that she sat in on 1-2 meetings and maybe wrote some analysis up on how labor may respond to their efforts. Chances are she was not working alone on this and her actual cash draw would be so small as to be largely irrelevant to her annual income.
She almost certainly wasn't helping them draft the legislation or using her influence to push it through on that kind of cash. That's ridiculous.
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We know what Uber was doing during the time period she was advising and consulting for them. They ran a deceptive ad campaign to bamboozle voters into thinking that voting for Prop 22 was a good thing for workers, instead of a terrible blow to workers' rights.
When someone is hired by a corporation to advise and consult "on relations with organized labor," is it always because the corporation is looking to impede unionization efforts and smother dissent.
More details on Prop 22 and their campaign to get it passed via the National Employment Law Project
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That sounds fine.
As Audre Lorde put it, "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house." The gig economy and organized labor are intrinsically opposed by their very nature, and these companies hire progressives as a form of reputation whitewashing. Now if you want to argue that this should be seen in context with her career, that is something different - but this idea that her work for some of the worst offenders in the gig economy is "no big deal" shows an unawareness of the issues involved.