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ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
Madican mentioned on the holiday forum that we might want a general gacha gaming thread. So uh.. here it is!
If you're looking for Honkai Star Rail, that's over here. Genshin Impact be this way.

In here we'll talk about the less popular stuff. Maybe you haven't given up the gear grind and still play Epic Seven?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKyDtA3SHTI

Or perhaps you really want to go for the bad rates in Fate Grand Order?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlj5Z3wWE_U

And you might like more futuristic stuff like Path to Nowhere?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb66V7NHHzo

Maybe you're waiting for another bite at the Persona 5 apple and really want that rug pulled out from under you? That's totally not me of course...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4cQ3ual_Oc

Or perhaps there's another upcoming gacha game you're looking forward to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=716eb1ruka4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NGpayIia2c

We're gonna talk about gacha games that aren't the big Hoyo games in here.

Heads up!
These games are pretty much based around gambling. They have stories and characters we like, gameplay we enjoy, but the gacha elements are central to all of them. If you are someone who is susceptible to gambling problems or addiction, please don't drag yourself in. Discussion of gambling around these games is welcome, but know what it is you're getting in to. "Free to play" isn't a friendly term, and most games aren't as f2p friendly E7/Genshin/HSR.
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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Working through Limbo again in R1999 now that it's reset.

    And kinda thought FGO's New Years thing would have a bit more to it, at least increased EXP rates, but this is a whole lotta nothing.

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    edited January 4
    We are officially in the pathetic decline period of FGO.

    This is why I started playing other gacha games last year to fill the void - other than big story chapters maybe twice a year AT BEST, we do not have much to look forward to.

    Asthariel on
  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Yeah I've seen the stagnancy building on JPv side. Gonna take us a full year just to hit the next actual Lostbelt and conclude the story.

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Working through Limbo again in R1999 now that it's reset.

    I actually finished Limbo this time. The boss fight was easier than I expected, having three Stars for it probably helped. Messed up my character choices a bit so I had to bring a Beast (Tennett) to the fight but between her shields and TF's heals taking extra 30% damage didn't really bother her.

    Now I don't have anything to do though until the next patch and next Limbo. Once I finish Voyager's I3 and R10 mats I'll be out of goals to pursue. I don't plan to pull during the next patch and I don't have any 6*s to build or 5*s I'd want to build. Might have to take a longer break at some point, logging on every day just to do dailies is just the sort of tedium that'll burn me out on a game.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    I started playing Arknights 10 days ago or so. After throwing everything I could grind on story quests and challenges on Kalt'sit / Surtr banner, today I finally managed to get Surtr, so I should be able to chill out for now and focus on improving my rooster.

    ... is what I would like to say, but Exusai is on the banner now, so I guess I should also try to grind as much as possible in order to try go get her in next 2 weeks...
    (from the previous thread)

    Exusiai is now buyable with yellow certs, do that instead of pulling for her (and if you can't afford it, save yellows for things like that in the future).

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    I started playing Arknights 10 days ago or so. After throwing everything I could grind on story quests and challenges on Kalt'sit / Surtr banner, today I finally managed to get Surtr, so I should be able to chill out for now and focus on improving my rooster.

    ... is what I would like to say, but Exusai is on the banner now, so I guess I should also try to grind as much as possible in order to try go get her in next 2 weeks...
    (from the previous thread)

    Exusiai is now buyable with yellow certs, do that instead of pulling for her (and if you can't afford it, save yellows for things like that in the future).

    Indeed, but right now I have only 87 distinctions out of 180 required, and if I am understanding correctly, I will need to roll more to get more of yellow certs, correct? So is there any specific reason why it is better to roll on specific banners of newer characters rather than Kernel ones?

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    Asthariel wrote: »
    I started playing Arknights 10 days ago or so. After throwing everything I could grind on story quests and challenges on Kalt'sit / Surtr banner, today I finally managed to get Surtr, so I should be able to chill out for now and focus on improving my rooster.

    ... is what I would like to say, but Exusai is on the banner now, so I guess I should also try to grind as much as possible in order to try go get her in next 2 weeks...
    (from the previous thread)

    Exusiai is now buyable with yellow certs, do that instead of pulling for her (and if you can't afford it, save yellows for things like that in the future).

    Indeed, but right now I have only 87 distinctions out of 180 required, and if I am understanding correctly, I will need to roll more to get more of yellow certs, correct? So is there any specific reason why it is better to roll on specific banners of newer characters rather than Kernel ones?

    Newer characters are often (but not always) more powerful, because gacha game power creep. If you have a certain character who you really want or like, then go for them in Kernel. Otherwise, build up power from the new limited time draws (who will go away for a long period if you don't get them) and you will luck into older characters along the way.

    And btw, you can get yellow certs from "Recruitment" as well, it will just not be very fast. Use resources like this one: https://aceship.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.html
    to pick tags that guarantee better results. For example, ALWAYS pick something like Melee + Slow or the Specialist tag unless you have something even better in that set. 4 star characters give you 1 yellow once you max out their potential (which happens fast for 4 stars), 5 and 6 give you some yellows even if they're not maxed, more once they are (but that takes a long time, just based on the odds).

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Working through Limbo again in R1999 now that it's reset.

    I really don't like how all of the stages in Limbo are similarly designed in terms of buffs and recommended "elements". I can understand if the hardest stage really incentivizes you to have rolled for the most recent 6* character, but it feels like you're punished for the entire thing if you don't have them. That one limbo after Melania came out was brutal for me, because the only Beast character I have leveled is Tennant.

    That said, I do have Tooth Fairy, and Jessica now, so I suppose I'm good for a bit.

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Working through Limbo again in R1999 now that it's reset.

    I really don't like how all of the stages in Limbo are similarly designed in terms of buffs and recommended "elements". I can understand if the hardest stage really incentivizes you to have rolled for the most recent 6* character, but it feels like you're punished for the entire thing if you don't have them. That one limbo after Melania came out was brutal for me, because the only Beast character I have leveled is Tennant.

    The hardest stage 6-2 is weak to Stars, so you don't even benefit from Jessica there. Tooth Fairy doesn't do that much damage so her being a Star doesn't help a lot. I cleared it in 9 turns (out of 12 for three stars) so even if I had had 30% less damage I would have finished it in time. I use Knight most of the time so the whole "must have the right element" thing doesn't seem very important to me. As long as your DPS is well built (I3, R10, lvl 50 or 60 cube) you should be able to finish Limbo.

    I've been concentrating on just 8 characters (3 Stars, 1 Spirit, 1 Plant, 1 Beast, 2 Mineral) the whole time, that might help a lot more than having any specific character. R9-10 is such a huge upgrade and at the same time very time gated, if you try to build more characters they all end up weak. I3 alone isn't always a huge thing but going from I2 lvl 50 to I3 lvl 25+ is a fair chunk of raw stats. So bringing a I3 R10 character of the completely wrong element (weak to enemy) seems better than bringing a half-assedly built character that has the element advantage.

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Mirkel wrote: »
    I've been concentrating on just 8 characters (3 Stars, 1 Spirit, 1 Plant, 1 Beast, 2 Mineral) the whole time, that might help a lot more than having any specific character. R9-10 is such a huge upgrade and at the same time very time gated, if you try to build more characters they all end up weak. I3 alone isn't always a huge thing but going from I2 lvl 50 to I3 lvl 25+ is a fair chunk of raw stats. So bringing a I3 R10 character of the completely wrong element (weak to enemy) seems better than bringing a half-assedly built character that has the element advantage.

    Hm, maybe this is my problem. Spreading myself too thin. I've been working on I3ing a bunch of characters, but I think the only one I have above R8 right now is Regulus. Who is awesome and all, but I should probably focus on a few more. Maybe should just make sure Pickles and Jessica are both awesome too.

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Mirkel wrote: »
    I've been concentrating on just 8 characters (3 Stars, 1 Spirit, 1 Plant, 1 Beast, 2 Mineral) the whole time, that might help a lot more than having any specific character. R9-10 is such a huge upgrade and at the same time very time gated, if you try to build more characters they all end up weak. I3 alone isn't always a huge thing but going from I2 lvl 50 to I3 lvl 25+ is a fair chunk of raw stats. So bringing a I3 R10 character of the completely wrong element (weak to enemy) seems better than bringing a half-assedly built character that has the element advantage.

    Hm, maybe this is my problem. Spreading myself too thin. I've been working on I3ing a bunch of characters, but I think the only one I have above R8 right now is Regulus. Who is awesome and all, but I should probably focus on a few more. Maybe should just make sure Pickles and Jessica are both awesome too.

    I have five R10s, Knight, Regulus, Eternity, Bkornblume and Tennett. Healers and Voyager are R7-9. It's far better bang for buck than I3 usually, but it's a hassle given the time limitations on the materials. And yeah both Pickles and Jessica are good to get to R10, if you can try to save enough oneiric fluid for a casket as that can be a big roadblock (unless you have one or two from events already).

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Picked up Blue Archive again with FGO entering the dry year. I played this for a month or two last year but dropped it because of time. It has a goofy story and characters, but damn it has a LOT of those characters and I'm at a point where I'm unsure how to actually increase my overall power with the available resources

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Picked up Blue Archive again with FGO entering the dry year. I played this for a month or two last year but dropped it because of time. It has a goofy story and characters, but damn it has a LOT of those characters and I'm at a point where I'm unsure how to actually increase my overall power with the available resources

    I think the usual advice is to level up a character when you need them, but that's easier in the end game when you already have a bunch built up and are just adding whatever students the current raid needs. When you are still progressing through the game the main thing you need is ~3 DPS students of each three color (not purple, yet at least) and 2-3 tanks and a few of whatever good supports you happen to have. Higher level Hard mode maps need three teams so that's the max but it takes a while to get there. For raids you can in theory just keep on sending more and more teams but it's better to finish a raid at lower difficulty if it devolves into zerg rush.

    Oh, and for skills it's almost pointless to level them unless you can reach the next big threshold, I think it was 4, 7 and 10. For EX skills getting to level 3 is usually a good start.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Yeah I've got my teams set up, it's mostly just gear holding me back since everybody needs T4 stuff that doesn't drop until a chapter or two after where I'm at, but bosses hit like trucks and usually succeed in killing someone or dragging out the fight long enough to go over time so I lose stars.

    I should probably not be so focused on those stars right now and just come back later

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Main goal when leveling should be grabbing the next cafe upgrade, but leaving all the levels below 3* means you can't farm them which is a pain in the ass. I hated the gear grind so I often ended up using expert permits for the gear tickets. Worked fine for me but I'm sure the general advice is to not to do that. It's a bit less painful if you prioritize gear so tanks just get their bags or badges and DPS get their hats, gloves etc and not their hp gear. Also some events give a fair amount of equipment.

  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Due to sudden lapse of judgement, I decided to throw some tickets at FGO New Year banner, and lo and behold, First Hassan arrived after three tickets, being my first SSR since November 2023 (outside of GSSR).

    In general, if you want to get anything out of FGO, you need to start playing other gacha games, to make it scared.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Looks like a new Atelier mobile game comes out tomorrow. I might just give it a shot, although I haven't played any games in the series since PS3.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    An upcoming Love Live gacha game just announced a hard date

    for end of service. May 31.

    As for the release, sometime in February.


    【Global Launch Notice】
    We are excited to break the news to you that the global version of Love Live! School idol festival 2 MIRACLE LIVE! is launching soon in February 2024.

    However, we also want to inform you that, the Global Version will close its doors on May 31, 2024, and cease in-app purchases accordingly.

    We appreciate the love and support you've shown, and we're committed to making these last few months an unforgettable moment.

    FF XIV - Qih'to Furishu (on Siren), Battle.Net - Ilpala#1975
    Switch - SW-7373-3669-3011
    Fuck Joe Manchin
  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Ilpala wrote: »
    An upcoming Love Live gacha game just announced a hard date

    for end of service. May 31.

    As for the release, sometime in February.

    I had to Awesome this, because it's just too funny to me. Amazing.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I'm sure they're contractually obligated to release it but... just.. lol.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    My favorite part of that Twitter thread is that I saw at least four people upset that the game will only run for one month.

    I learned a fantastic new word about this today: Announcellation.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    I still play E7 and SW. They both are on business as usual updates really. Although SW posted a teaser that looks to be a Witcher crossover which could be fun. The rates in that game though heh.... I dont usually get any/many of the special units.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Started playing Eversoul since it was doing its first anniversary stuff. It's alright, for an idle game at least, but not much meat on the bones in terms of story so far. Good character variety at least.

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    The general timeline for the Love Live School Idol Festival games:
    April 2013: JP version of Love Live 1 launched
    May 2014: Global version of Love Live 1 launched
    March 2023: Both the JP and Global versions of Love Live 1 shut down
    April 2023: JP version of Love Live 2 launched
    February 2024: Global version of Love Live 2 will launch
    March 2024: JP version of Love Live 2 will shut down
    May 2024: Global version of Love Live 2 will shut down

    As an outsider only looking into this due to the absurdity of the launch leading directly into cancellation, it looks to me that they shut down a game that had been running for a decade to try and force folks over to a new game only for that move to fuck them over hardcore.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 30
    For the witcher collab SW added Gwent into the game with SW mons as cards its pretty fun. If you have SW and havent played come get your free water Geralt at least.

    Jubal77 on
  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2
    Sword of Convallaria has a demo on Steam right now if you want to take a look. It's a FF Tactics -style gacha game, looks pretty good so far after the first 30 min.

    Mirkel on
  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Nikke got a maid event now.

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    Need I say more?

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Started up Limbus Company last night and geez this is gonna take some getting used to. Interesting story so far though, it can best be summarized as: a group of thirteen idiots look for treasure and also everything that can go wrong in the story will happen in spectacular fashion.

    It's a very dark world with things like a bus that needs to be fed living people to function and the existence of immortal SCP type entities called Abnormalities, but it can also veer right back around to being goofy again when the gang does shit like: being given a mission to infiltrate a casino in disguise to gain access to a secret area that only opens for the winner of a bigshot game, immediately accidentally wipes out the entire gang they were supposed to drug and replace as one of the bigshots, tries to dress up in the gang's clothing to infiltrate as them only to then immediately break cover and start openly fighting security, etc. Meanwhile the two people who had this absolutely perfect plan with handwritten details for everyone are catatonic watching all their months of hard work setting this up evaporate.

    Oh, and it's also the easiest rerolling I've seen in a game. Create guest account (on phone), skip tutorial, and you're done. Pick up whatever is in the mailbox and the mission complete bonuses for the tutorial and you can roll four multis every time, two on beginner banner and two on standard. If you don't like what you rolled then you go into settings, to account, scroll down to where it says close account, enter the phrase, and done. Rinse and repeat.

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    I played Limbus for awhile. I thought the setting and the story was really interesting (extremely dark), and the writing was generally excellent. The gameplay, while simple, was also neat enough to keep me interested, with a good amount of design space to make team building interesting.

    I mostly fell off because I found the pace that they were releasing content to be glacial, and the first event they had was a brutal endless grind. I'd hope they learned from that, though. I had a couple other issues as well, but I think some of them were already addressed? I heard they overhauled Mirror Dungeons a couple of times since I played, which is a big deal.

    I definitely want to revisit the game at some point, because I just really liked the story and characters. It was just setting up for some upcoming story centering around Ishmael when I stopped, which I think was chapter 5?

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I think I may be too dumb to play Limbus Company. Gotten stomped by the last boss of every Normal difficulty Mirror Dungeon I've done and trying to watch tutorial videos about all the things like clashes and coins and combat power aren't penetrating my skull

  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    Their single player game with similar combat Library of Ruina had far better tutorials and eased into the more complex combat slowly. I had played that and still felt Limbus was hard to figure out. Then I ran into a bunch of bugs (I was playing on day 1) and just didn't bother logging on again.

  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    I agree that Limbus was utterly indecipherable at first, but once you figure it out it's pretty straightforward. Most of the time you can basically just pick the skill that it says has a better chance of winning, and it works out. You'll get a feel for which skills are better at clashing than others even without actually looking at their numbers, but at least pay attention to how many coins each skill has. More coins not only makes their clash numbers more consistent (because they're not completely reliant on one coin landing on heads), but it also gives you more "chances" to win the clash. Also note your sinners' sanity; higher sanity increases the odds that their coins roll a heads, so keeping their sanity high dramatically increases their odds of winning clashes. 45 sanity literally means that your coin flips have a 95% chance of coming up heads.

    For the bosses at the end of dungeons, they often have a few attacks that are really difficult to beat with regular skills. I often relied on using the EGO skills (the super moves that you spend ego resources and sanity to do) for guaranteeing beating those particular attacks. Even each sinners' basic EGO skills are great at this, even if their damage often isn't that impressive.

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Everyone I follow on Twitch is currently playing Wuthering Waves, a game normal people still aren't allowed to play for at least another six months. Awesome.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Wow damn, that game really looks like Genshin with the serial numbers filed off. The interface is.. lovingly similar, the summon animation might as well be identical..

    I appreciate that overhangs on walls don't prevent climbing though.

  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited February 20
    I played Genshin once and hated everything about it, but so far this one seems to be doing its best to fix all of those problems. I'd really like to play it, but it's already been two years, and they're still not ready to actually release it. Same for Zenless Zone Zero. I'm pretty sure streamers have been playing both of those games longer than Star Rail has actually been out.

    Reynolds on
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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    Yeah, from what I've seen of WW so far, it seems to lean hard on copying Genshin, but it's not exactly the same. Everything is faster, particularly moving around and combat, and the style is very different. Definitely shows that it's in early beta, though; a lot of stuff doesn't look smooth at all, there's plenty of bugs, and the English localization very clearly needs work (even ignoring that there's currently no English VA in the beta).

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Saga Re: Universe is the first time I ever felt like I was the one ripping off the gacha game and not the other war around. They give you so much currency that I could comfortably pull on banners for months, it feels kind of insane.

    Its basically a better looking Final Fantasy Record Keeper (but with actual story) which was the first mobile game that kind of hooked me.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    Reverse: 1999 has a big update coming next week. Here's (I think) all current redemption codes:

    theprisonerinthecave
    1999gift
    starlight
    starbright
    dipafestival
    shamane
    37aprimenumber
    6theperfectnumber
    XFFZJLH

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    And another one bites the dust. Kinda. "Dropped" FGO until the next actual story chapter releases, by which I mean I'll still log in (when I remember) and won't be at all concerned about participating in any events. Skipped Valentines entirely. Honestly I could probably just watch all the translated story up to current JP and be good.

    Eversoul is just dropped completely. That story wants to be "epic" but refuses to lay the groundwork for it and characters may as well not exist as anything but setpieces.

    Meanwhile in Limbus Company I thought I was getting the hang of the game. Then I got to Canto 4-48 and no I fuckin' ain't. Gonna take some time and build up some units that should help do the trick.

    And in Blue Archive I took a bit of time to bulldoze my way from Chapter 11 to Chapter 19 because the only thing that had been holding me back was my will to actually play that content (it's boring). Got my cafe expansions though.

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