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[Star Trek] is mostly just about the theme songs

HevachHevach Registered User regular
edited April 4 in Debate and/or Discourse
First up we have the OG, TOS.
https://youtu.be/vHBLr9HOZEI
Pros: The original
Cons: consists mostly of theramin chords behind wailing mountain goat noises

Next the redheaded step child, The Animated Series
https://youtu.be/j_9P6lTiiec
Pros: Better version of the Kirk voice over
Cons: Sounds like a 60's sitcom intro

Jumping ahead to the second era, The Next Generation
https://youtu.be/7tIWYtcwp2I
Pros: Really showing what 1980's special effects could do without CGI.
Cons: Kind of the peak for a while

Deep Space Nine
https://youtu.be/v-91sZNbQCw
Pros: Beautiful fly around of a huge and elegant space station. This was also done pre-CGI using studio models!
Cons: Kind of slow and subdued, never felt in line with the grand events that DS9 got into.

Voyager
https://youtu.be/uDaOYj2wggg
Pros: The first CGI heavy series, and the intro makes beautiful use of the more advanced effects.
Cons: the scale is complete nonsense - that ringed planet is like fifty miles wide.

Enterprise
https://youtu.be/q4nceCmigAM
Pros: Beautiful sequence of the history of exploration.
Cons: This is a song from the Patch Adams sound track forced by studio meddling. And the studio didn't want to pay Rod Stewart or even Susan Ashton money so we get a cover of a cover by a dude whose discography is mostly national anthems and public domain Christmas carols

There but for the grace of God goes the intended Enterprise intro:
https://youtu.be/9zuObd_gSKw
Pros: Same beautiful sequence, it has to be said that this is one of the most beautiful intro animations in all of Star Trek
Cons: You have to watch Enterprise when it's over

Bonus: Enterprise took a vacation to the mirror universe, complete with an alternate universe intro:
https://youtu.be/sfbsZRbwbJ4
Pros: A dark mirror of the normal intro paired perfectly with a new one off theme song
Cons: Still can't afford Rod Stewart I guess

Another jump forward to the new era, we start with Discovery:
https://youtu.be/gdLfWOEbNmo
Pros: Harkening back to TOS and TNG.
Cons: What the fuck is even going on in this animation half the time?

Picard
https://youtu.be/02vuBqcv3hk
Pros: It's not Enterprise
Cons: It's not Enterprise. Also again with the weird nonsense animation, no clue what's going on most of the time

Lower Decks
https://youtu.be/Sr4bomaqMTE
Pros: Flawlessly captures the grandeur and absurdity of the setting, and Memory Alpha considers the constantly escalating battle scenes to be individual canon events
Cons: idiots on YouTube have still not stopped crying about them getting animation in their Star Trek

The new generation's redheaded stepchild, Prodigy
https://youtu.be/DY6tqng1ozI
Pros: Ok see if you want to do weird abstract animation this is how it's done. This at least makes sense
Cons: you need a whole second streaming service just for this intro.

And finally Strange New Worlds
https://youtu.be/aMMMBvkAUSM
Pros: Captain Pike taking Discovery to school on how to harken back to TOS
Cons: Season 3 is delayed by like a year from the strikes

Hevach on
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    KamarKamar Registered User regular
    When I forget the opening is coming up and my roommate and I have to sit through the whole DS9 intro without skipping it because I'm in the middle of a boss fight or something on my other monitor, it's torture.

    It doesn't have the audio mixing that made the TNG and especially TOS intros physically painful, at least, but its worse despite that.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    I am contractually required to post this at least once in every Trek thread, and this is the perfect opportunity:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fAKIcsGcKU

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    And here's a fan-made intro, in the modern style, for a DS9 ... relaunch? sequel?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PbOqlimFlo

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    I am contractually required to post this at least once in every Trek thread, and this is the perfect opportunity:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fAKIcsGcKU

    I still prefer the "Perfect Strangers" version of the opening, but watching this video just now made me realize that if they did do a Star Trek using this song, they'd pretty much have to have a captain who is Polynesian, which would be pretty great. As long as they got genuine Polynesians to consult on how to portray that captain's culture so we don't have another Jamake Highwater situation.

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    dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    yeah but then no one will be allowed to save the captain's life

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited April 4
    I like the original S1 and S2 Enterprise opening. Basically the only thing good in that show imo.

    It's ridiculously cheesy but the montage is great and somehow it works. It got off on the wrong foot because of how different it was from every Star Trek opening before it. It's kinda jarring that way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgoXrBRVu54

    In S3 they try and fix it by jazzing it up and only really manage to make it worse.

    I think it still manages to top several of the newer theme songs, which have mostly ended up Enterprise-the-show levels of forgettable.

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    SneaksSneaks Registered User regular
    edited April 4
    And here's a fan-made intro, in the modern style, for a DS9 ... relaunch? sequel?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PbOqlimFlo

    Going by the way the sequence ends, I think it’s intended to reflect…
    …the “first episode of the eighth season” that the Deep Space Nine writers broke as a part of What We Left Behind.
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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited April 4
    Sneaks wrote: »
    And here's a fan-made intro, in the modern style, for a DS9 ... relaunch? sequel?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PbOqlimFlo

    Going by the way the sequence ends, I think it’s intended to reflect
    the “first episode of the eighth season” that the Deep Space Nine writers broke as a part of What We Left Behind.

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    I agree, but wasn't quite sure of how to phrase that, especially for those who hadn't seen it.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited April 4
    You posted the sped up atrocity that is the Post season 3 DS9 intro

    Also that Emissary intro feels like Star Trek: Mass Effect

    Ringo on
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    SneaksSneaks Registered User regular
    edited April 4
    I agree, but wasn't quite sure of how to phrase that, especially for those who hadn't seen it.

    Oh, shit. Right. Okay, I put it in spoiler tags. If you do the same to your quote of me we should be good to go.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    The later version of the DS9 theme is ok. And at least makes sense as the series setting shifts over time.

    But the original one is by far the best. Just perfectly captures that feeling of being a single point of life all alone in the dark.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    "Just keep circling..."

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    RazielMortemRazielMortem Registered User regular
    The TNG theme is clearly the best but it cheats by just stealing Jerry Goldsmith's masterpiece. There is an actual official TNG theme written by the series music director and it's...like a Wish version of the Jerry one.
    But the best intro is still the Horner intro to Wrath of Khan - listen to that bad boy on a system with proper bass and wowser, as that very low sound kicks in representing background space then the brass...you nailed it Horner. Took the Courage theme but updated it to something more militaristic and darker.

    Lower Decks theme is probably my choice of nuTrek as it absolutely understood the assignment to do something new but completely Star Treky - bold, uplifting, good pace, loud when it needs to be punchy. Could have been written by Jerry - no finer complement.

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    ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    While I'm not as much in love with Strange New Worlds as most are, I really like what it does with the TOS theme and riffs on it - which is true for the series as a whole. It's a nice nod to the original without feeling like either a rip-off or something too reverential. It positions itself vis-à-vis TOS without wanting to ape it or overwrite it.

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Woo! New Star Trek day! Two back to back episodes of Disco!
    I still love seeing Oded Fahr as an Admiral on this show. He steps into that role so easily.

    Apparently, Rayner is a Kellerun, who appeared in a single episode of DS9? Also, loving the Progenitor callback to TNG.

    And Saru, getting it on with that Vulcan booty! This is the Kelpien-Vulcan ship that the fans want.

    I thought I saw the Blinky Tube device, powered down, in the Romulan ship, but I'm not sure.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Hello yes I would like to request the best SNW intro be added to the top:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F8uszo1nq4

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Am I hallucinating or is “Spock accidentally turned into full-human” something that’s happened like 6 times already?

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Not from a mainline show, but one of my favorite Michael Giacchino film scores:
    https://youtu.be/hFDj7rsN0KQ?si=Ahb5bpiNZXKts7um

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    Shakey1245Shakey1245 Registered User regular
    I enjoy scouring YouTube for amateur fan attempts at recreating model shots and special effects from Trek. There is amazing work out there but an absolute favourite I've discovered is a guy called Howard Day who's work manages to capture the look and feel of 80s model shots and rotoscoped visual effects.

    In keeping with the show intro theme:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftMX-sk2LU

    Spoiler'd for size but here are some other videos of his work:

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    The TNG theme is clearly the best

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    When she goes to sleep he should put that ipod there with the "24 hours of Enterprise ambient noise" video going.

    Make that kid grow up to be O'Brien

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Speaking of better versions of the ENT theme, I can't believe I just now discovered this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4rgDs0KbI

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    RazielMortemRazielMortem Registered User regular
    Shakey1245 wrote: »
    I enjoy scouring YouTube for amateur fan attempts at recreating model shots and special effects from Trek. There is amazing work out there but an absolute favourite I've discovered is a guy called Howard Day who's work manages to capture the look and feel of 80s model shots and rotoscoped visual effects.

    In keeping with the show intro theme:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftMX-sk2LU

    Spoiler'd for size but here are some other videos of his work:

    See - uses the Horner score. Just the best.

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    AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    If your Star Trek theme has vocals, you done fucked up.

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    RazielMortemRazielMortem Registered User regular
    There are vocals to the OG TOS theme. They are terrible and only exist so Roddenberry could get royalty rights allegedly.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    When she goes to sleep he should put that ipod there with the "24 hours of Enterprise ambient noise" video going.

    Make that kid grow up to be O'Brien

    Wow, why would you want to wish that on the unborn?

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Oh is Disco out today?

    Ugh...gotta figure out time to watch that.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    When she goes to sleep he should put that ipod there with the "24 hours of Enterprise ambient noise" video going.

    Make that kid grow up to be O'Brien

    Wow, why would you want to wish that on the unborn?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Predicting lots of exhausting discourse from this season:
    They've clearly chosen to separate the Preservers from TOS from the Progenitors from TNG. Extended universe material has combined these into one since at least Shatner's first novel and it was technically the intent of the writers.

    But for I assume the same reason we have four different corruptions of Kzinti they didn't do that and canonically there's no in universe evidence of a link.

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    daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    When she goes to sleep he should put that ipod there with the "24 hours of Enterprise ambient noise" video going.

    Make that kid grow up to be O'Brien

    Wow, why would you want to wish that on the unborn?

    Only through adversity can you become something more

    Maybe not you you though, it might be your time clone that ends up benefiting.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    When she goes to sleep he should put that ipod there with the "24 hours of Enterprise ambient noise" video going.

    Make that kid grow up to be O'Brien

    Wow, why would you want to wish that on the unborn?

    Only through adversity can you become something more

    Maybe not you you though, it might be your time clone that ends up benefiting.

    O'Brien and Riker were the OG Rick Sanchez's

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited April 4
    Hevach wrote: »
    Predicting lots of exhausting discourse from this season:
    They've clearly chosen to separate the Preservers from TOS from the Progenitors from TNG. Extended universe material has combined these into one since at least Shatner's first novel and it was technically the intent of the writers.

    But for I assume the same reason we have four different corruptions of Kzinti they didn't do that and canonically there's no in universe evidence of a link.

    I'm with them on that distinction. The EU version frankly makes no sense.
    The Progenitors seeded Earth and other worlds with their genetic material. They existed long before life on Earth. They explicitly said they travelled the stars and found the galaxy void of life.

    The Preservers preserved various cultures, like the Native American tribe in TOS. They clearly existed pretty recently in Earth's history, as recently as 1000 years ago.

    There are literally billions of years separating these two species.

    Richy on
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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Is a shame that Disco just took forever to become the 32c show it clearly wanted to be from the start and is just not going to be able to fully go deep with it.

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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited April 4
    Eh, I'm way, way past giving Trek shows multiple seasons before they "get good". This doesn't need to be a thing anymore and hasn't needed to be a thing for decades. It's fine if it takes them a little while to refine what they do with the characters they have like Lower Decks, that's simply a matter of practice and actors/writers getting to know each other. But something like Discovery is just a strong case for why you can't inject ten gallons of drama into a one-gallon show for years on end and expect good results.

    And I've heard the argument that Discovery is what got us Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds, but I don't buy that at all. I think we got those later shows in spite of Discovery stinking up the room, whereas if Discovery had been good from the start we could've gotten the likes of those shows sooner and with more support for them.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Discovery is 100% how we got Strange New Worlds. If people hadn't liked Pike and Spock in season 2, SNW would never have happened.
    Lower Decks I'll grant you.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    The real loss is we could have got another good show along with those others if Discovery hadn't sucked.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    At least Discovery did get at least 2 decent seasons.

    Also 100% the success of Pike in season 2 played into SNW existing. Denying that is denying that Discovery actually has done well and by doing well, if not amazing, it has paved the road for SNW.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    At least Discovery did get at least 2 decent seasons.

    One more than ENT got. :|

    Also 100% the success of Pike in season 2 played into SNW existing. Denying that is denying that Discovery actually has done well and by doing well, if not amazing, it has paved the road for SNW.

    Agreed.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Okay the two episodes were good but I swear

    Spock goes human & Intelligent cloud are two things that happen a lot. I swear I’m not crazy.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    Okay the two episodes were good but I swear

    Spock goes human & Intelligent cloud are two things that happen a lot. I swear I’m not crazy.

    The entire idea of SNW is to do the kind of thing TOS did but on a modern budget, so...

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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