AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
edited April 15
I would love it if the rest of the season’s arc was just a lot of villainous monologuing being abruptly and violently ended by Rogue just flying into the scene and punching them into space
I would love it if the rest of the season’s arc was just a lot of villainous monologuing being abruptly and violently ended by Rogue just flying into the scene and punching them into space
"We'll stop her from doing it when it stops working out for us."
so, obviously who is the hero of the story is going to change things, but what, in general terms, is rogues strength vs hulk?
She's not as strong as him (no one in Marvel is), but theoretically she could drain him.
While she can drain people, the Hulk has been way past her capabilities for a while now. For one thing, she's been shown to struggle with strong personalities or their experiences so simply draining people isn't always that straightforward. In the series in particular, she absorbed power from Juggernaut and he suffered no major ill effects but she wasn't able to handle the mess he calls a brain. And if she couldn't handle Juggernaut, I don't see any way she could handle any single personality of the Hulk (there are several, after all), nevermind she'd have to deal with all of them at once. Almost immediately dropping into a psychotic rage would be the likely outcome.
In terms of sheer power, again, Hulk is way off her scale. It would be extremely doubtful she could keep hold of him long enough to take a significant portion of his strength, seeing as he has single-handedly (and willingly) fueled a whole species of life-draining space parasites for at least days in order to keep them peaceful and lucid while waiting to send them home. It did actually drain him enough to nullify the Hulk body briefly, but he was a willing participant the whole time.
I'd put her closer to Ben Grimm than Hulk. And Ben Grimm has fought (and even briefly won against) the Hulk, but almost always by being clever or at significant physical cost. But it's always been victory in the sense of making the Hulk want to go away, not actually keeping Hulk down. Rogue is also a skilled combatant so she could probably beat Hulk with skill and cunning but again, it wouldn't be the kind of win that sticks for long.
Nah she is way past The Thing in terms of strength. Her power set is 100% identical to Carol Danvers who is way past him on that scale. Rogue got her powers by using her abilities on Carol for so long Rogue nearly killed Carol. The side effect was permanently* gaining her abilities in addition to her own. Her only natural super power is the power stealing. She could 100% go toe to toe with him long enough to do it as seen by hanging with Juggernaut who is on the upper end of the scale typically as well. I am pretty certain she has absorbed Hulk's powers in the past as well to unfortunate effect. I don't think that happened in the TV series, but it has been forever since I watched the old episode. I think it usually ends with her not being able to control her anger or some such.
*The comics had her lose that power set to be replaced with Sunfire's for a time because of weird stuff with him. I don't remember where that resolved currently. In the show she not lost Carol's powers.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
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I’m just imaging the mission debriefing with Scott screaming at everyone, “The X-Men don’t kill people!” and every single other person giving each other confused looks like, “Since when?”
Logan’s like, “I’ve killed, like, 200 people, Scotty, everyone knows this. I’ve killed people in this room. I killed your wife, like, twice,”
Rogue is definitely not way past Ben Grimm in terms of strength. Rogue has, in the past, taken Grimm by surprise and drained him with a kiss, but there's no guarantee she could do the same just by touching his armored hide (it's still ambiguous if it's more like armor or more like skin) or if he's expecting the attempt. Grimm has faced off against Hulk, Namor, Thor, etc, and has been beaten, but he's also won by being clever or determined. He's got a lot of experience with hand-to-hand combat with opponents his strength or stronger and is a top-notch grappler, whereas Rogue is used to just punching through the stuff the X-Men face. When events forced him to face off against an army of weird spore versions of himself, he made weapons by crushing entire cars into the size of bowling ball and mashed a building down into a sword; I don't think Rogue is strong or durable enough to do that. I would also put Grimm down as considerably more durable than Rogue.
Of course it always comes down to the writer and whose comic it is, but Rogue is far from a clear-cut winner in this case.
Rogue has gone toe to toe with Hulk, Namor, Thor, etc. She has absorbed Hulk's powers. Again she has Captain Marvel's power set, and she is way up there in strength. Modern Rogue has Wonder Man's powers so is significantly weaker, but we are talking classic Rogue so yeah. Can Captain Marvel (IE Marvel's Superman with combat training) take them? If yes then so can Rogue because she has all those powers, abilities, memories, and training in addition to her own.
Edit: I will say I am only trying to talk in terms of power set. I think Rogue wins the fight in both books with Rogue going getting taken out by Sue or through some weird trickery in the F4 books. The Thing saying some line like "I ain't going to hit no dames," before she absorbs his power which backfires for reasons. Whose ever comic it is rule is definitely the ultimate answer but the antiquated, sexist gender dynamics meaning they can't play it straight.
Omg, they had a half serious discussion about whether or not KENDRICK FUCKING PERKINS should be in the hall of fame. I know the 2008 Celtics are the most over celebrated champion ever. I know the hall of fame gets more and more diluted. But KENDRICK PERKINS!?!?
It bugs me a bit that Untold gives the game away so early. (Also, as good as that music is, the track title is a bit of a spoiler. Of course, with how old the original game is at this point... I'm also not sure how much it matters)
It appears the Suns were indeed the broken ass team they appeared to be. They had some high moments that could trick you, and damn at some point I figured the whole "11-1 against the Wolves" thing might count for something, but nope.
It's so bad I almost feel kind of bad for KD! But he chose his fate at the end of the day.
It appears the Suns were indeed the broken ass team they appeared to be. They had some high moments that could trick you, and damn at some point I figured the whole "11-1 against the Wolves" thing might count for something, but nope.
It's so bad I almost feel kind of bad for KD! But he chose his fate at the end of the day.
Has any superstar ever had better teammates and done less with them than KD? That dude only has like, 2 seasons (his first 2) without at least 1 all NBA level teammate, and hes often had 2.
In my pantheon, i had KD above Steph for a long time, but when i realized how good his teams have been, and how little theyve won (literally 0 finals appearances without Warriors, and only like 2 conference final appearances otherwise), hes not at that level. Hell, hes not even probably at Giannis's level (or Jokic). Hes prob more like Embiid. A dynamite scorer and talent who hasnt won like youd expect (also, both have had bad luck, esp Embiid)
It appears the Suns were indeed the broken ass team they appeared to be. They had some high moments that could trick you, and damn at some point I figured the whole "11-1 against the Wolves" thing might count for something, but nope.
It's so bad I almost feel kind of bad for KD! But he chose his fate at the end of the day.
Has any superstar ever had better teammates and done less with them than KD? That dude only has like, 2 seasons (his first 2) without at least 1 all NBA level teammate, and hes often had 2.
In my pantheon, i had KD above Steph for a long time, but when i realized how good his teams have been, and how little theyve won (literally 0 finals appearances without Warriors, and only like 2 conference final appearances otherwise), hes not at that level. Hell, hes not even probably at Giannis's level (or Jokic). Hes prob more like Embiid. A dynamite scorer and talent who hasnt won like youd expect (also, both have had bad luck, esp Embiid)
He made the NBA Finals with the Thunder.
Haha yeah, you're right. Surprised i forgot that.
That flagrant on okogie. . . I hate how the announcers (especially ex players) just start ranting about how in their day it wasnt a flagrant foul. It had the wind up, the follow through, not being a play on the ball, all of it. Sure, gobert didnt roll around for 5 mins like lebron, but that shit was not a basketball play. I dont need need any random head chops in the general vicinity of the basketball in my nba, even if it threatend Richard Jeffersons manhood.
But ejection though? Flagrant 1 at best.
West playoffs staring at two, possibly three sweeps, did not expect that (just the Lakers).
Mini Clubhouse, so basically the same.
They didn't even calibrate the brakes, so that's what I have to do today
Edit: is it normal for the back wheel with Nexus hub gear and e-motor to not turn so easily and make like a "chhhhh" sound? Or another thing that goes on the bad bike shop list?
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Carol got a power boost when she became Binary. As Captain Marvel she isn't quite as powerful, but still significantly more powerful than she was as Ms. Marvel.
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Compared how well our other bikes' rear wheels with hub gears are coasting.
My alfine is like silent and super easy going, while the Nexus on my wife's bike sounds and feels similarly "rough" and also a bit dragging, but not as much as the new one's.
So maybe I'm just used to better quality. Gonna ask the closest shop for an opinion anyway.
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edited April 15
I visited my grandad today. He's 90 and I'm glad to still have the one grandparent, but also he has dementia and doesn't know who I am any more and can't really hold a conversation and it fucking sucks! Getting old is bullshit.
But also dying young is bullshit. What gives, life??
I visited my grandad today. He's 90 and I'm glad to still have the one grandparent, but also he has dementia and doesn't know who I am any more and can't really hold a conversation and it fucking sucks! Getting old is bullshit.
But also dying young is bullshit. What gives, life??
Does the UK have assisted euthanasia? That's my plan when/if i start to get like that.
I visited my grandad today. He's 90 and I'm glad to still have the one grandparent, but also he has dementia and doesn't know who I am any more and can't really hold a conversation and it fucking sucks! Getting old is bullshit.
But also dying young is bullshit. What gives, life??
Does the UK have assisted euthanasia? That's my plan when/if i start to get like that.
Nope. And honestly it's something that concerns me. I don't have kids, if I live to be old and feeble I'm going to be relying on the state for my comfort and dignity, and no thanks. I genuinely spend a fair amount of time trying to figure out the easiest and cleanest way to end it when I decide I've done enough living. I'm not suicidal at all, but it's just a practical thing you gotta think about.
Earlier this month, I bought a new bike for the first time in about a decade and a half (a Trek FX 3). I had done a few 25k rides and 40k ride earlier in the month, but today was the first day where I had a ride planned that the weather wasn’t awful, and I finally got a 50k ride in.
I’m a little bemused by my Garmin right now. Even a 5k run will tell me my recovery time is 13+ hours, and a 10k run will usually say 20+ hours. But cycling 50k? 8 hours of recovery is apparently all Garmin thinks that I need. And don’t get me wrong, I believe it, I’ve planned my long run for tomorrow morning in the expectation that I’ll be recovered by then. But it’s still weird and a little funny to me.
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Earlier this month, I bought a new bike for the first time in about a decade and a half (a Trek FX 3). I had done a few 25k rides and 40k ride earlier in the month, but today was the first day where I had a ride planned that the weather wasn’t awful, and I finally got a 50k ride in.
I’m a little bemused by my Garmin right now. Even a 5k run will tell me my recovery time is 13+ hours, and a 10k run will usually say 20+ hours. But cycling 50k? 8 hours of recovery is apparently all Garmin thinks that I need. And don’t get me wrong, I believe it, I’ve planned my long run for tomorrow morning in the expectation that I’ll be recovered by then. But it’s still weird and a little funny to me.
Bikes can do amazing distance with much lower effort and other than mountain biking it's fairly low impact as you don't hammer any joints or have other impacts, so it's just muscle recovery.
I hate click bait but I also hate videos that convey the same information that two sentences would also provide.
But we all know why we're watching recipe videos instead of reading recipe websites. God-fucking-awful websites.
What, you don't like reading a 12 page essay about how the recipe they came up with last week has been important in their family for generations before it gets to two paragraphs of incomprehensible cooking instructions?
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Nah she is way past The Thing in terms of strength. Her power set is 100% identical to Carol Danvers who is way past him on that scale. Rogue got her powers by using her abilities on Carol for so long Rogue nearly killed Carol. The side effect was permanently* gaining her abilities in addition to her own. Her only natural super power is the power stealing. She could 100% go toe to toe with him long enough to do it as seen by hanging with Juggernaut who is on the upper end of the scale typically as well. I am pretty certain she has absorbed Hulk's powers in the past as well to unfortunate effect. I don't think that happened in the TV series, but it has been forever since I watched the old episode. I think it usually ends with her not being able to control her anger or some such.
*The comics had her lose that power set to be replaced with Sunfire's for a time because of weird stuff with him. I don't remember where that resolved currently. In the show she not lost Carol's powers.
Logan’s like, “I’ve killed, like, 200 people, Scotty, everyone knows this. I’ve killed people in this room. I killed your wife, like, twice,”
Rogue has gone toe to toe with Hulk, Namor, Thor, etc. She has absorbed Hulk's powers. Again she has Captain Marvel's power set, and she is way up there in strength. Modern Rogue has Wonder Man's powers so is significantly weaker, but we are talking classic Rogue so yeah. Can Captain Marvel (IE Marvel's Superman with combat training) take them? If yes then so can Rogue because she has all those powers, abilities, memories, and training in addition to her own.
Edit: I will say I am only trying to talk in terms of power set. I think Rogue wins the fight in both books with Rogue going getting taken out by Sue or through some weird trickery in the F4 books. The Thing saying some line like "I ain't going to hit no dames," before she absorbs his power which backfires for reasons. Whose ever comic it is rule is definitely the ultimate answer but the antiquated, sexist gender dynamics meaning they can't play it straight.
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Amazon gonna be the new NBATV? NBC being added too? Gonna need access to all these different services just to watch games? Thanks, Adam Silver.
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shoulda never left the Warriors. lesson learned.
He made the NBA Finals with the Thunder.
But ejection though? Flagrant 1 at best.
West playoffs staring at two, possibly three sweeps, did not expect that (just the Lakers).
They didn't even calibrate the brakes, so that's what I have to do today
Edit: is it normal for the back wheel with Nexus hub gear and e-motor to not turn so easily and make like a "chhhhh" sound? Or another thing that goes on the bad bike shop list?
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My alfine is like silent and super easy going, while the Nexus on my wife's bike sounds and feels similarly "rough" and also a bit dragging, but not as much as the new one's.
So maybe I'm just used to better quality. Gonna ask the closest shop for an opinion anyway.
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-damian-lillard-has-strained-achilles-is-doubtful-for-game-4-of-bucks-pacers-nba-playoff-series-173117419.html
Doubtful for Game 4. Bucks screwed.
But also dying young is bullshit. What gives, life??
Does the UK have assisted euthanasia? That's my plan when/if i start to get like that.
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But we all know why we're watching recipe videos instead of reading recipe websites. God-fucking-awful websites.
Nope. And honestly it's something that concerns me. I don't have kids, if I live to be old and feeble I'm going to be relying on the state for my comfort and dignity, and no thanks. I genuinely spend a fair amount of time trying to figure out the easiest and cleanest way to end it when I decide I've done enough living. I'm not suicidal at all, but it's just a practical thing you gotta think about.
Earlier this month, I bought a new bike for the first time in about a decade and a half (a Trek FX 3). I had done a few 25k rides and 40k ride earlier in the month, but today was the first day where I had a ride planned that the weather wasn’t awful, and I finally got a 50k ride in.
I’m a little bemused by my Garmin right now. Even a 5k run will tell me my recovery time is 13+ hours, and a 10k run will usually say 20+ hours. But cycling 50k? 8 hours of recovery is apparently all Garmin thinks that I need. And don’t get me wrong, I believe it, I’ve planned my long run for tomorrow morning in the expectation that I’ll be recovered by then. But it’s still weird and a little funny to me.
Bikes can do amazing distance with much lower effort and other than mountain biking it's fairly low impact as you don't hammer any joints or have other impacts, so it's just muscle recovery.
What, you don't like reading a 12 page essay about how the recipe they came up with last week has been important in their family for generations before it gets to two paragraphs of incomprehensible cooking instructions?
I've seen "jump to recipe" here and there, but it's rare, and for the reasons you describe.